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03-04-2011, 04:05 PM
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Don't know if our goalies are capable of stealing games but they sure can keep the team in the game while the skaters are slumbering. They offer the chance to win. Bobs and Boosh may not shut the opposing team down completely but they keep us within one or two goals even under heavy rapid fire.

Sure a sloppy goal here and there break backs but I'm pretty sure the guys are used to that. When was the last time Flyers had a goalie who didn't frequently give up an easy goal?

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Last year Flyers played 'more confident ' with Leighton in net
right now, it seems the goalies both of them are allowing too weak a goal from side of the net

should have let Leighton have more opportunity to play instead of boucher just to see
bob is a really fast no-rebounds ever type goalie, but plays very small thus, everything over the waist he will let in ( especially in hi pressure games )_

with that said
flyers have to look out the big bad bruins and tampa bay
if they can get those out of the way ( or let someone else do it for them ) all the better.


GO FLYERS ------ Its time

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Last year Flyers played 'more confident ' with Leighton in net
right now, it seems the goalies both of them are allowing too weak a goal from side of the net

should have let Leighton have more opportunity to play instead of boucher just to see
bob is a really fast no-rebounds ever type goalie, but plays very small thus, everything over the waist he will let in ( especially in hi pressure games )_

with that said
flyers have to look out the big bad bruins and tampa bay
if they can get those out of the way ( or let someone else do it for them ) all the better.


GO FLYERS ------ Its time
No. Leighton is garbage. The team has played just as well, if not better, for most of this season in front of Bob and Boosh as they did with MFL.

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03-04-2011, 07:03 PM
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New York Islanders in 1981-82 and Edmonton Oilers in 1986-87 had no shutouts. Can we all ****ing shut up about this now? Jesus Christ, Bob has had two third period shutouts broken by penalty shots and one broken by a puck from the side of the net going off Meszaros shin. This doesn't mean we're destined for a first round exit. Two of the greatest dynasties in hockey had no shutouts, and you know what? I'd say it worked out all right for them.

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New York Islanders in 1981-82 and Edmonton Oilers in 1986-87 had no shutouts. Can we all ****ing shut up about this now? Jesus Christ, Bob has had two third period shutouts broken by penalty shots and one broken by a puck from the side of the net going off Meszaros shin. This doesn't mean we're destined for a first round exit. Two of the greatest dynasties in hockey had no shutouts, and you know what? I'd say it worked out all right for them.
I believe there have been two games where the only goal was bounced in off of Coburn as well.

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03-06-2011, 02:53 AM
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Team effort, so yeah its possible considering the bad stretch. Please not all teams go through a bad stretch. Vancouver, nope, Pittsburgh? nope. Both had serious injury problems, but yet still hung and outpaced the flyers so lets call a spade a spade. If Pittsburgh had crosby and malkin, we wouldn't be in first, and now tampa and boston are on our backs. We could easily be a 4th or 5th seed by the end of the season at this rate.

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Team effort, so yeah its possible considering the bad stretch. Please not all teams go through a bad stretch. Vancouver, nope, Pittsburgh? nope. Both had serious injury problems, but yet still hung and outpaced the flyers so lets call a spade a spade. If Pittsburgh had crosby and malkin, we wouldn't be in first, and now tampa and boston are on our backs. We could easily be a 4th or 5th seed by the end of the season at this rate.
Uh... Pittsburgh hasn't won in regulation since Malkin got injured, and the Canucks have two separate 4 game losing streaks.

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Not having a shutout all season is nothing to be concerned about at all......It shows consistency in winning games without shut outs, and i will take winning games any day.Having said that, our defense is big but SLOW and fast teams like Buffalo, Tampa, etc are the type teams that we do not match up well against.

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Uh... Pittsburgh hasn't won in regulation since Malkin got injured, and the Canucks have two separate 4 game losing streaks.
yeah look at the standings. They win in OT still 2 points and even when they lose, they lose in OT so they still get points without their best players, whats our excuse?

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yeah look at the standings. They win in OT still 2 points and even when they lose, they lose in OT so they still get points without their best players, whats our excuse?
I didn't know that teams in first place needed excuses. Why is it so hard to understand that teams have ups and downs throughout the season? This is the first little bump in the road the Flyers have faced. If you think that all of the sudden after 60 or so games that this is the "real" Flyers and they are going to play like this forever, you are nuts. IT'S A SLUMP!

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Our "elite" defense sure looks strong lately.

IMO, Timonen (and maybe Giroux) seems to be the only player on the ice who is busting his ass every game

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Last time I checked, as long as you have more than the other guy...you win.


That said, there will come a time this team need to be prepared to win a game 1-0 in the playoffs.

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03-06-2011, 05:09 PM
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yeah look at the standings. They win in OT still 2 points and even when they lose, they lose in OT so they still get points without their best players, whats our excuse?
Wasn't won of the main criticisms that, even when they win games, they don't look good? So it's ok for the Pens to win in OT because it shows their resilience, but when the Flyers win when they suck, it's time to predict a ****ing first round exit.

They suck right now. They'll come out of it. I mean, come on, this is their first four game losing streak all season!

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03-06-2011, 05:18 PM
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They'll come out of it. I mean, come on, this is their first four game losing streak all season!
I'm beginning to wonder what is the longest losing streaks for a cup teams.

Chicago: 3 in 09-10
Pittsburgh: 5 in 08-09
Detroit: 6 in 07-08
Anaheim: 4 in 06-07
Carolina: 3 in 05-06
Tampa Bay: 4 in 03-04
New Jersey: 3 in 02-03
Detroit: 2 (but a 7 game winless streak) in 01-02
Colorado: 4 in 00-01
New Jersey: 4 in 99-00
Dallas: 3 in 98-99
Detroit: 3 in (for the last 3 games going into the post season) 97-98
Detroit: 2 in (but a 4 game winless streak) in 96-97
Colorado: 3 in 95-96
New Jersey: 3 in 94-95
New York R.: 3 in 93-94
Montreal: 3 in 92-93
Pittsburgh: 4 in 91-92
Pittsburgh: 3 in 90-91
Edmonton: 3 in 89-90
Calgary: 2 in 88-89
Edmonton: 3 in 87-88
Edmonton: 4 in 86-87
Montreal: 6 in 85-86
Edmonton: 3 in 84-85
Edmonton: 5 in 83-84
New York I.: 2 in 82-83
New York I.: 2 in 81-82
New York I.: 4 in 80-81
New York I.: 4 in 79-80
Montreal: 2 in 78-79
Montreal: 2 in 77-78
Montreal: no back to back losses in 76-77
Montreal: 2 in 75-76
Philadelphia: 3 (and a 4 game winless streak) in 74-75
Philadelphia: 3 in 73-74

Enough of that ****.


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Wasn't won of the main criticisms that, even when they win games, they don't look good? So it's ok for the Pens to win in OT because it shows their resilience, but when the Flyers win when they suck, it's time to predict a ****ing first round exit.
That's what I love about this board. The Flyers lose a few games to bad teams and it is their true colors coming out and they are clearly not that good. Next week they'll beat a few good teams badly and everyone will be saying OMG this team is so good THIS IS THE YEAR! Then they'll drop two in a row and everyone will say ugh these guys are bums who don't care and will never win a Cup. Then they'll win and they are great.

You gotta look at the big picture here. A small sampling of games is not indicative of the overall performance or future performance. It is just a stretch of games. If they play ****** for the remainder of the season, then you have to worry. But a stretch of 10 games (or even more) where you aren't playing well but still managing to win games is not panic time.

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I'm beginning to wonder what is the longest losing streaks for a cup teams.

Chicago: 3 in 09-10
Pittsburgh: 5 in 08-09
Detroit: 6 in 07-08
Anaheim: 4 in 06-07
Carolina: 3 in 05-06
Tampa Bay: 4 in 03-04
New Jersey: 3 in 02-03
Detroit: 2 (but a 7 game winless streak) in 01-02
Colorado: 4 in 00-01
Chicago: 3 3-game losing streaks
Pittsburgh: 3 3-game losing streaks, 1 5-game losing streak
Detroit: 1 3-game losing streak, 1 4-game losing streak, 1 6-game losing streak
Anaheim: 2 3-game losing streaks, 2 4-game losing streaks
Carolina: 3 3-game losing streaks
Tampa: 2 3-game losing streaks, 2 4-game losing streaks (1 was a five game stretch with a tie mixed in)

Flyers: 2 3-game losing streaks (1 of those games being the Calgary game where Pronger was called on the Avery Rule), 1 4-game losing streak

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I'm beginning to wonder what is the longest losing streaks for a cup teams.

Chicago: 3 in 09-10
Pittsburgh: 5 in 08-09
Detroit: 6 in 07-08
Anaheim: 4 in 06-07
Carolina: 3 in 05-06
Tampa Bay: 4 in 03-04
New Jersey: 3 in 02-03
Detroit: 2 (but a 7 game winless streak) in 01-02
Colorado: 4 in 00-01
New Jersey: 4 in 99-00
Dallas: 3 in 98-99
Detroit: 3 in (for the last 3 games going into the post season) 97-98
Detroit: 2 in (but a 4 game winless streak) in 96-97
Colorado: 3 in 95-96
New Jersey: 3 in 94-95
New York R.: 3 in 93-94
Montreal: 3 in 92-93
Pittsburgh: 4 in 91-92
Pittsburgh: 3 in 90-91
Edmonton: 3 in 89-90
Calgary: 2 in 88-89
Edmonton: 3 in 87-88
Edmonton: 4 in 86-87
Montreal: 6 in 85-86
Edmonton: 3 in 84-85
Edmonton: 5 in 83-84
New York I.: 2 in 82-83
New York I.: 2 in 81-82
New York I.: 4 in 80-81
New York I.: 4 in 79-80
Montreal: 2 in 78-79
Montreal: 2 in 77-78
Montreal: no back to back losses in 76-77
Montreal: 2 in 75-76
Philadelphia: 3 (and a 4 game winless streak) in 74-75
Philadelphia: 3 in 73-74

Enough of that ****.
OMG those stats are so telling! If they lose two more in a row they will have NO CHANCE IN HELL! I hope the team is not forced to leave Philadelphia!

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