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03-07-2011, 02:03 PM
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The Matt Gilroy Project

Call me crazy but I am a big time Gilroy supporter. Something this board frowns upon tremendously! I know Iím going to get eaten up by this one... but Iíve been thinking of ways to utilize his talents. The only logical conclusion Iíve come up withÖmove him to forward (RW)

He possesses a tremendous skating ability and creativity to boot. I know he started out playing forward in college and moved to D. so why not try that again. If Woli doesnít resign I feel like he can move into that slot and fit in nicelyÖif I were torts id give this a shot next year(if he doesnít get traded in the off season)

his contract expires this summer and i doubt they would just let him walk, so sign him to a 1 yr deal and go from there, if it doesn't work trade him mid-season. Flame on

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I don't mind Gilroy either, but I'd rather keep him on D.

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Call me crazy but I am a big time Gilroy supporter. Something this board frowns upon tremendously! I know Iím going to get eaten up by this one... but Iíve been thinking of ways to utilize his talents. The only logical conclusion Iíve come up withÖmove him to forward (RW)

He possesses a tremendous skating ability and creativity to boot. I know he started out playing forward in college and moved to D. so why not try that again. If Woli doesnít resign I feel like he can move into that slot and fit in nicelyÖif I were torts id give this a shot next year(if he doesnít get traded in the off season)

his contract expires this summer and i doubt they would just let him walk, so sign him to a 1 yr deal and go from there, if it doesn't work trade him mid-season. Flame on
The problem with what you propose is to sign him to a one-year deal, you would have to give him a qualifying offer which would be a raise off his salary. And he's not worth that.

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I think Gilly gets dumped on way too much for what he is on this team.

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The problem with what you propose is to sign him to a one-year deal, you would have to give him a qualifying offer which would be a raise off his salary. And he's not worth that.
This is why Gilroy won't be back. He's just not good value.

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03-07-2011, 02:14 PM
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Gilroy isn't awful or anything, but the glut of forwards would give him less chance at a roster spot than his current one on defense. And at the #6 spot hes hanging on by a thread.

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I think it would be a good idea, but he is not even going to get a qualifying offer. Much bigger fish to fry as they say this year. Dubi,Cally, AA and BB all due raises Cally and Dubi probably getting the biggest raises. We probably wont be able to take a chance on Gilroy on Offense OR defense

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I think Gilly gets dumped on way too much for what he is on this team.
What he is is a product of his play. He was supposed to add offense. He hasn't.

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I think it would be a good idea, but he is not even going to get a qualifying offer. Much bigger fish to fry as they say this year. Dubi,Cally, AA and BB all due raises Cally and Dubi probably getting the biggest raises. We probably wont be able to take a chance on Gilroy on Offense OR defense
don't forget Sauer he'll get a nice bump in salary too

as for Gilly he will get offered a 1yr...close to what hes making now. i can see Sather playing hardball with him

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I like Gilroy more than most. His lack of strength is his downfall right now. He is a very good skater, he moves the puck well, he jumps into the play and rarely gets caught, so his decision making is good. He just needs to get stronger and he could be a very good puck moving defenseman because the skating often cannot be taught at this level and he has that.

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as for Gilly he will get offered a 1yr...close to what hes making now. i can see Sather playing hardball with him
Gilroy makes $2.1 mil this season in salary, but he has a $1.75 mil cap hit.... As a RFA, Rangers need to extend a qualifying offer to him or he becomes a free agent (which I think is a good possibility).

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03-07-2011, 02:37 PM
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I have often held the opinion that Gilroy moving to forward is a ridiculous idea but it just dawned on me that its pretty intriguing.

I could see him in a Fedotenko role, next to Boyle and Prust. Let those guys do all the muscle work down low and then when the puck is moved to an open area Gilroy has the agility to be the first man to the puck. Im curious as to how this would work.

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The Rangers have put two years into trying to develop Gilroy on defense. I doubt they want to block a developing forward next season for a guy who will be 27 and playing a position he hasn't played in years. Its not an awful idea but its not going to happen..

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I have often held the opinion that Gilroy moving to forward is a ridiculous idea but it just dawned on me that its pretty intriguing.

I could see him in a Fedotenko role, next to Boyle and Prust. Let those guys do all the muscle work down low and then when the puck is moved to an open area Gilroy has the agility to be the first man to the puck. Im curious as to how this would work.
This. he has great vision on the ice and his skating is top notch. i always felt it was a no brainer esp. with the logjam of young D

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He's not worth his qualifying offer. He's gone. It was a failed experiment.

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This. he has great vision on the ice and his skating is top notch. i always felt it was a no brainer esp. with the logjam of young D
His work along the boards stinks though.

There's no room for him at forward....

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The only thing keeping Gilroy in the NHL is him being an offensive defenseman. He is not good enough defensively to fill a defensive role. He is not good enough offensively to be an NHL forward with his style of game. He would be a 3rd liner at best in terms of offensive production. I dont think he is close to our best option as a 3rd line wing.

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That's EXACTLY what they're going to do: Let him walk.

Reason why: He's not good at hockey.

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This. he has great vision on the ice and his skating is top notch. i always felt it was a no brainer esp. with the logjam of young D
He he was a top-notch skater and had great vision on the ice he'd have more than 11 points if only by accident.

I fail to see what a move to forward does (especially giving him a raise to do so). He provides no offense from the blueline. Not sure what he would do at forward. And where does he play?

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The only thing keeping Gilroy in the NHL is him being an offensive defenseman. He is not good enough defensively to fill a defensive role. He is not good enough offensively to be an NHL forward with his style of game. He would be a 3rd liner at best in terms of offensive production. I dont think he is close to our best option as a 3rd line wing.
Hard to say it's his offense that keeps him in the league when he provides no offense.

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Hard to say it's his offense that keeps him in the league when he provides no offense.
Then what other reason do you have for him being here? Maybe he doesnt provide offense, but his potential 'talent' offensively is the only reason he is in the league, no?

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Then what other reason do you have for him being here? Maybe he doesnt provide offense, but his potential 'talent' offensively is the only reason he is in the league, no?
I don't know why he's here. He's become an average #6 defenseman by being adequate in his own zone at the expense of his offense.

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Gilroy's pass yesterday for Cally's last goal was sick.
He makes a few eye opening plays, (like the pass off the boards to Dubi a month or so ago) but is nothing to write home about offensively. He gets a lot of undeserved **** from the fanbase because they wanted him to get flashy stats. He had a mediocre rookie season, and he is better this year. Still not worthy of his qualifying offer, but if we resign him out of free agency for a one year deal it won't be terrible. A stop gap for McIlrath.

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Gilroy's pass yesterday for Cally's last goal was sick.
He makes a few eye opening plays, (like the pass off the boards to Dubi a month or so ago) but is nothing to write home about offensively. He gets a lot of undeserved **** from the fanbase because they wanted him to get flashy stats. He had a mediocre rookie season, and he is better this year. Still not worthy of his qualifying offer, but if we resign him out of free agency for a one year deal it won't be terrible. A stop gap for McIlrath.
Like how he gravitates to the slot and follows the play, he must have hit the crossbar about 6 times this year and been robbed numerous times...

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I don't know why he's here. He's become an average #6 defenseman by being adequate in his own zone at the expense of his offense.
He is poor/average on defense. Poor/average on offense. He needs to be sent down, and Valentenko or Kundratek should take his minutes.

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