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03-08-2011, 10:40 AM
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He is a RFA this offseason, UFA the following
Wasn't aware he was 24 already, thought he was younger.

Still, I see little need for the team to move him.

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If Yandle played here, 6 would be the logical number.

Defensemen wear single digits, 33 is used, 7 is retired, 77 is retired, and 6 is double 3.
Wideman got that number retired, didn't he?

Best modern day Bruins defenseman in the playoffs!

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Why would the Coyotes even deal Yandle away, he is their future number one D-man and is having a great season and future captain once Doan retires.

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Why would the Coyotes even deal Yandle away, he is their future number one D-man and is having a great season and future captain once Doan retires.
There isn't one logical reason to trade him, exactly why this proposal is on HF

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Wasn't aware he was 24 already, thought he was younger.

Still, I see little need for the team to move him.
Best chance would be as a UFA.

The only way I see it happening this year is PC somehow working out a trade, similar to the Kessel situation. Instead of getting your offer sheet matched, pony up the unmatched offer sheet compensation (1st (maybe 2), 2nd and 3rd). The Toronto pick alone is probably close is worth close in value two late 1sts, a late 2nd, and a late 3rd, well depending on where Toronto ends up.

Worst case scenario, someone offer sheets him, Phoenix matches and he doesn't hit free agency.

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Why would the Coyotes even deal Yandle away, he is their future number one D-man and is having a great season and future captain once Doan retires.
silly isn't it?

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Why would the Coyotes even deal Yandle away, he is their future number one D-man and is having a great season and future captain once Doan retires.
Unlikely to happen, just hoping he doesn't sign an extension.

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There isn't one logical reason to trade him, exactly why this proposal is on HF
I mean I would LOVE to have Yandle in Boston, but no way in hell are they letting him go. We would need to trade Krejci + Tor's first to start off.

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Sure did (missed the boat) but again, this is what makes drafting so much more intricate than any of us here on the boards, unless we have first hand experience in the talent evaluation profession could ever imagine.

Theororetically (sp?) you could say that 48 other teams missed the boat on Lucic, if they knew now what he`d be as an NHL`er he`d probably have some team try and snag him in at least the top 15 to be on the safe side.

It`s a crapshoot, again, you may have player A who is the best available player outright, but if you have a glaring need for a D-man and player A is a forward, do ya pick him??? Not as easy as we like to think it is sitting comfortably at home I have to think.
have you watched any of the "oil change" episodes?

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silly isn't it?
Just as silly as Yandle not going to free agency after next season.

Sign extension with team that is unstable and don't know if I will have to move to Canada

Or

Test the market, play wherever I want, possibly for my hometown

Tough decision.

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Just as silly as Yandle not going to free agency after next season.

Sign extension with team that is unstable and don't know if I will have to move to Canada

Or

Test the market, play wherever I want, possibly for my hometown

Tough decision.
you never know what these guys and their agents are thinking. i'm just saying no way in hell phoenix moves him unless it's for an enormous pile of gold. but still he's not being moved.

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Just as silly as Yandle not going to free agency after next season.

Sign extension with team that is unstable and don't know if I will have to move to Canada

Or

Test the market, play wherever I want, possibly for my hometown

Tough decision.
He's probably going to sign a one-year deal just as others have, but it's not going to be simply because of the money or location. There's going to be a new CBA after next year and many players are holding out hope that it will be better for the players or at least that revenues will increase to the point that the salary cap will increase and they'll get a bigger deal. Hometown team means very little to players, it's all about wherever they have the best chance to win and get paid.

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What if he gets a 3/$19M offer sheet?

Phoenix would have a choice of paying him like a top defenseman or getting 2 1sts, 1 2nd, 1 3rd. I think this is a difficult decision.

If they can get:
Toronto's 1st (better than any RFA pick they will get)
Minnesota 2nd (at worst equivalent to RFA comp.)
Boston 3rd
Hamill
Boychuk
Maybe add another pick?

The decision to keep him becomes even more difficult.

...but once again, best chance of getting him is after next season as a UFA

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it's all about wherever they have the best chance to win and get paid.
Boston pays - check
Boston contends - check
Hometown - bonus

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Boston pays - check
Boston contends - check
Hometown - bonus
How does Boston outbid other teams?


I understand it's just your little pipe dream, but that's all it is. Phoenix has already said they're not going to move him and that they want to keep him around.

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03-08-2011, 11:41 AM
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How does Boston outbid other teams?


I understand it's just your little pipe dream, but that's all it is. Phoenix has already said they're not going to move him and that they want to keep him around.
There is a difference between Phoenix moving him and losing him in free agency.

How are the Bruins going to outbid? Can the Bruins not get good players?
They got Chara to sign here, Savard, got Krejci to extend, brought in Kaberle. To a lesser extent Wheeler chose Boston over any other team, Ryder signed here, Rechhi, Satan, etc.

Didn't realize Boston couldn't outbid other teams.

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Isn't this thread called winning now? I thought giving up pretty much the entire 2011 draft to bring in an impact player could qualify as a winning now move. Maybe we can just keep the same team for next year because with 20 players signed and Marchand and Kaberle vSically getting us to 22, that's what's going to happen.

If you don't think we can win now, you dint think we can win next year either.

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Why would the Coyotes even deal Yandle away, he is their future number one D-man and is having a great season and future captain once Doan retires.
Someone plugged a trade involving him into EA Sports NHL 2011 and it succeeded. Sometimes that's all it takes.

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There is a difference between Phoenix moving him and losing him in free agency.

How are the Bruins going to outbid? Can the Bruins not get good players?
They got Chara to sign here, Savard, got Krejci to extend, brought in Kaberle. To a lesser extent Wheeler chose Boston over any other team, Ryder signed here, Rechhi, Satan, etc.

Didn't realize Boston couldn't outbid other teams.
Yeah, and with what cap space would they sign Yandle to a ~5.5M contract? It's not happening, please let it go.

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Cap space is just a question of what you're prepared to sacrifice.

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Cap space is just a question of what you're prepared to sacrifice.
Last time I checked the Bruins have over $20M on cap space for the season Yandle become unrestricted. I'm guessing the cap will actually go up between new CBA and revenue increases so they will like have about $18M of space to complete this team...

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Knight - Seguin - Caron
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The deadline has passed - how is Keith Yandle pertinent to any discussion of winning now? His GM flat-out stated he wasn't trading him this year.

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The deadline has passed - how is Keith Yandle pertinent to any discussion of winning now? His GM flat-out stated he wasn't trading him this year.
First post in the thread...
"Quezzle E 12:44 AM Yesterday
There seems to be a divide here on whether the Bruins are trying to build for a future dynasty or win a cup in the immediate future (this year, next)."

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How do you think the leafs feel about having traded Rask? That's how we would feel within a couple years. The B's shouldn't even consider the thought of trading him. If they could get Thomas to waive his ntc than maybe you look at that option in the off season but something tells me he's comfortable where he is and won't want to waive for anyone. It's a good problem to have and I'm happy to have it.

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Last time I checked the Bruins have over $20M on cap space for the season Yandle become unrestricted. I'm guessing the cap will actually go up between new CBA and revenue increases so they will like have about $18M of space to complete this team...

Lucic - Bergeron - Marchand
Knight - Seguin - Caron
Horton - Savard - Spooner
xxxxx - xxxxx - xxxxx

Chara - Kampfer
Seidenberg - Ference
xxxxx - xxxxx - xxxxx

Thomas
xxxxx
No Rask, Krejci or Kaberle?

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