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Cowen vs Rundblad, who will make it next year?

View Poll Results: Who will make it the team first?
David Rundblad 21 16.28%
Jared Cowen 15 11.63%
Both (Both are ready and Murray needs to send Kuba and someone else packing) 91 70.54%
Neither ( No spots open, both not ready for the NHL) 2 1.55%
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03-09-2011, 02:53 PM
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Phillips- Karlsson
Cowen- Gonchar.
Lee- Rundblad

With the addition of Cowen to the lineup Phillips will have alot less pressure to be perfect and play alot better. Furthermore, with Cowen playing with Gonchar i predict a 20-30 point season for Cowen. I could also see Rundblad replacing Karlsson on the top line but with Philips playing better Karlsson will as well, defensively.

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03-09-2011, 03:06 PM
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Cowen would be better served covering for one of Rundblad/Karlsson down the line IMO. It would allow for more creativity offensively.

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03-09-2011, 03:07 PM
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Cowen would be better served covering for one of Rundblad/Karlsson down the line IMO. It would allow for more creativity offensively.
Rookie pairing = disaster.

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Why not make Phillips and Cowen the Volchenkov shutdown pair????
I always hated that pairing. They were effective, for sure, but neither of them could handle a puck. Give me the old school stay-at-home paired with go-for-broke.

I'd like to see more balance in our forward lines as well as our D pairings.

Phillips-Karlsson
Gonchar-Lee
Cowen-Kuba
Carkner

Rundblad to join later- hopefully before Kuba's traded.


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03-09-2011, 03:28 PM
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IMO you have to bas your pairing by what side they play:
LH- Phillips, Cowen, Kuba
RH- Lee, Rundblad, Gonchar, Carkner, Karlsson

Who can play the other side? Gonchar did early in the year is he willing to do it again?

Phillips/Lee- good pairing I would like to keep them, the rest is up for grabs.

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03-09-2011, 03:36 PM
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I always hated that pairing. They were effective, for sure, but neither of them could handle a puck. Give me the old school stay-at-home paired with go-for-broke.

I'd like to see more balance in our forward lines as well as our D pairings.

Phillips-Karlsson
Gonchar-Lee
Cowen-Kuba

Rundblad to join later- hopefully before Kuba's traded.
I'd much rather:

Cowen - Karlsson
Phillips - Rundblad
Gonchar - Lee
Carkner

Seems like a good fit to me.... bye to Kuba.

One thing I do agree on: Elite teams don't have "shut down" pairing guys, unless their shut down pair involves a true #1 defenseman who can score and play transition as well (like Niedermayer). Phillips and Volchenkov always left something to be desired because our offense sucked when they were on the ice.

You need to have pairs that have a stud offensively with a rock defensively.

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03-09-2011, 03:40 PM
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Rookie pairing = disaster.
That's why I said 'down the line.'

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03-09-2011, 04:05 PM
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Also...I view our team next year something like...

Phillips - Lee
Cowen - Karlsson
Kuba - Rundblad

Carkner, Gonchar

Something along those lines. Kuba and Gonchar are interchangeable.

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03-09-2011, 04:20 PM
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Also...I view our team next year something like...

Phillips - Lee
Cowen - Karlsson
Kuba - Rundblad

Carkner, Gonchar

Something along those lines. Kuba and Gonchar are interchangeable.
Gonchar will not sit regardless of how poorly he plays, not with that contract.

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03-09-2011, 04:22 PM
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Man, we really should have kept Sutton.

I'd be much more comfortable with

Phillips - Rundblad
Sutton - Karlsson
Cowen - Gonchar

Than any of the other combinations in this thread. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20 and with Sutton we might not have seen so much development from Lee (although I suspect we would have seen even better from Karlsson).

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03-09-2011, 04:34 PM
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Man, we really should have kept Sutton.

I'd be much more comfortable with

Phillips - Rundblad
Sutton - Karlsson
Cowen - Gonchar

Than any of the other combinations in this thread. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20 and with Sutton we might not have seen so much development from Lee (although I suspect we would have seen even better from Karlsson).
I didn't know we could play that way.

All right:

Cowen- Shea Weber
Bobby Orr (in his prime)- Karlsson
Gonchar- Rundblad
Carkner

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03-09-2011, 08:24 PM
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I'm going with Cowen making the team first straight out of camp. Rundblad will join the team midway in the season after he gets adjusted to the NA rinks and style in Bingo.
This is how I see it, too.

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03-09-2011, 08:45 PM
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I didn't know we could play that way.

All right:

Cowen- Shea Weber
Bobby Orr (in his prime)- Karlsson
Gonchar- Rundblad
Carkner
Do we need Bobby Orr on a team that has Karlsson?

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03-09-2011, 09:21 PM
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Phillips- Karlsson
Cowen- Gonchar.
Lee- Rundblad

With the addition of Cowen to the lineup Phillips will have alot less pressure to be perfect and play alot better. Furthermore, with Cowen playing with Gonchar i predict a 20-30 point season for Cowen. I could also see Rundblad replacing Karlsson on the top line but with Philips playing better Karlsson will as well, defensively.
Unbelieveable.......
I just amazes me how absolutely obsessed and blinded most of you guys are here with your "almighty" junior players. Especially the up and coming D-men in the organization. Just because these guys are the sacred #1 picks and you guys are automatically penciling them in as starters because the all-wise Murrays need to keep feeding the media more hype on these guys. This is exactly why Detroit keeps winning and Ottawa does not. They season their players at the professional/AHL level and determine if they are cut out for the big time instead of rushing them straight from juniors in to the NHL just to satisfy the media and impatient fans. Get a grip already. Both of these guys belong in the AHL for at least a year and pay their dues before you anoint them saviors.

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03-09-2011, 10:23 PM
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Unbelieveable.......
I just amazes me how absolutely obsessed and blinded most of you guys are here with your "almighty" junior players. Especially the up and coming D-men in the organization. Just because these guys are the sacred #1 picks and you guys are automatically penciling them in as starters because the all-wise Murrays need to keep feeding the media more hype on these guys. This is exactly why Detroit keeps winning and Ottawa does not. They season their players at the professional/AHL level and determine if they are cut out for the big time instead of rushing them straight from juniors in to the NHL just to satisfy the media and impatient fans. Get a grip already. Both of these guys belong in the AHL for at least a year and pay their dues before you anoint them saviors.
Did you know that Lidstrom went straight from the SEL to the NHL and even at 21 only had 20 points in the SEL?

You realize that what we think has no actual bearing as to whether or not our prospects get placed on to the team? Do you not also agree that the best way to learn the NHL game is to play it?

Ultimately neither Rundblad nor Cowen will make the team unless our coaches believe that they are ready to make that jump. We like to be optimistic and believe that, yes, they are ready. Does that mean they definitely will be? No. But they've shown a lot of promise. It's not every day a 20 year old defenceman puts up 50 points in the SEL you know.

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03-10-2011, 04:07 AM
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New Coach - will be needed to be in place so as to indicate what the style of play will be next season.

Cowen & Runblad (& Larsson if he's the choice) will be given every chance to make the club out of Camp.

And DSmith, Lee, Benoit, Gryba, Wiercioch, Hale will all get a chance to showcase what they can do as well. Smith has looked okay these last games.

I strongly feel Kuba at least will be dealt at the Draft
D.Smith, Benoit and Hale are not signed for next season. Given D.Smiths play in Ottawa this season i wouldn´t be surprised if he decides to sign with a team like the Islanders where he has a better chance to make the big club. I don´t see Hale resigning with us too. I can see Benoit staying.

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03-10-2011, 07:07 AM
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Rookie pairing = disaster.
Kuba and Gonchar are disasters.

I can't imagine them doing worst than Kuba and Gonchar.

I remember the Cowen-Karlsson pairing was the best in the pre season.

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Unbelieveable.......
I just amazes me how absolutely obsessed and blinded most of you guys are here with your "almighty" junior players. Especially the up and coming D-men in the organization. Just because these guys are the sacred #1 picks and you guys are automatically penciling them in as starters because the all-wise Murrays need to keep feeding the media more hype on these guys. This is exactly why Detroit keeps winning and Ottawa does not. They season their players at the professional/AHL level and determine if they are cut out for the big time instead of rushing them straight from juniors in to the NHL just to satisfy the media and impatient fans. Get a grip already. Both of these guys belong in the AHL for at least a year and pay their dues before you anoint them saviors.
LMAO, this kid is soooo cute. It's like he thinks that they're being thrown in the lineup with the expectation that we'll win the stanley cup right away.

Fact is that Rundblad is tearing apart the best league that isn't the NHL. Even Dorion says that he's ready for the NHL right now.


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LMAO, this kid is soooo cute. It's like he thinks that they're being thrown in the lineup with the expectation that we'll win the stanley cup right away.

Fact is that Rundblad is tearing apart the best league that isn't the NHL. Even Dorion says that he's ready for NHL right now.
The KHL is better than the SEL, but he is tearing apart one of the highest regarded men's leagues in the world. It does hopefully say a lot about what he can do.

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Funny thread. If the Sens manages to draft Larsson somehow they're defense has to be the youngest in the league if it isnt already.

Karlsson, Cowen, Rundblad, Larsson... :O

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Unbelieveable.......
I just amazes me how absolutely obsessed and blinded most of you guys are here with your "almighty" junior players. Especially the up and coming D-men in the organization. Just because these guys are the sacred #1 picks and you guys are automatically penciling them in as starters because the all-wise Murrays need to keep feeding the media more hype on these guys. This is exactly why Detroit keeps winning and Ottawa does not. They season their players at the professional/AHL level and determine if they are cut out for the big time instead of rushing them straight from juniors in to the NHL just to satisfy the media and impatient fans. Get a grip already. Both of these guys belong in the AHL for at least a year and pay their dues before you anoint them saviors.
And in a truly shocking development, the bingo fan wants to see them spend time in the ahl...

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The KHL is better than the SEL, but he is tearing apart one of the highest regarded men's leagues in the world. It does hopefully say a lot about what he can do.
I disagree. To me that's just something that's been running around for some reason.

SEL is much better league than the KHL.

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Both Cowen and Rundblad will make it to the team next year. I see both Lee and Kuba being let go by next season.

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Both Cowen and Rundblad will make it to the team next year. I see both Lee and Kuba being let go by next season.
Why Lee?

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I think both Cowen and Rundblad will, Cowen will make it for sure. Rundblad, unsure right now as he mainly plays the European game, but has shown he can produce awesome offense.

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