Oh, hedman thing rings a bell, but i thought this mostly spawned from the steckel incident. Thanks for the info. Hedman didn't get any games? If not, it's on the NHL for losing their poster boy.
Yeah it did. It's believed that hit during the winter classic probably concussed him, but he wasn't diagnosed until after the next game, which I believe he left after Hedman on TBay hit him into the glass.
The people running this league have no clue, Air Canada isn't that easy to replace, we don't have another National carrier to move his teams that has the flex-ability or aircraft AC does. Good Luck Gary!
I wonder who is on the board of directors at Air Canada? If you have a board member who works at say Tim Hortons he might not be happy with Bettman's answer. Lets wait and see who else in sponsors might not like how Bettman is acting. Just keep turning the screws on other sponsors write the letters. You create change when the money flows start disappearing.
Obviously the league doesnt give a s&*t about its players, but nor do they abouts its sponsors:
Pour ce qui est de la menace d'Air Canada de retirer sa commandite en raison de ces nombreuses blessures, Bettman a indiqué que la LNH peut se dénicher d'autres transporteurs si Air Canada ne veut plus faire affaires avec elle (RDS)
Betteman only cares about money. Hes an owner first type of guy,there has been somany hits that have been suspendable but not because its been a star player doing the hitting ex. Getslaf on Hamuis. or players getting away with it because they arnt a repeat offender.
Im thinking that someone on the Nhlpa comes up with a rule that says each "crime" gets given what they think should be,and then someone from the owners or campell or whoever decides the punishment comes up with the number and they meet in the middle over it.
Obviously the league doesnt give a s&*t about its players, but nor do they abouts its sponsors:
Pour ce qui est de la menace d'Air Canada de retirer sa commandite en raison de ces nombreuses blessures, Bettman a indiqué que la LNH peut se dénicher d'autres transporteurs si Air Canada ne veut plus faire affaires avec elle (RDS)
sure they can find others... none will give as much though... Hey Gary, we're calling out your bluff... we now you're in deep ****...
The Bruins and Chara deserve every bit of rancor thrown their way.
You want hypocrisy? The organization that cried their eyes out when Bergeron and Savard went down are now responsible for two high profile head injuries this year with Paille and Chara.
Disgusting organization, disgusting players and disgusting fan base.
I disagree with just about everything you said here. I know from the Bruins side of HFboards, a large majority of our fanbase thought Chara deserved a fine and suspension. We disagree about the intent, but lets face it, you guys aren't ever going to agree that Chara didn't want to hurt Pacioretty and I'm never going to agree that he did want to. At the same time, a lot of us, myself included, thought that intent or not, Chara deserved to be suspended simply because this is the kind of play we don't want in hockey. Can things be done to prevent these hits in the future like modifying stanchion design, etc? Yes. Should they be done? Yes. Does this make what Chara did, accidentally or otherwise, ok? No.
Oh and by the way, about the last line of your post, get over yourself. No group is without their detractors, there are Habs fans that you wouldn't want representing the way you think, the same way there are Bruins fans who don't represent the way I think, or the rest of the fan base. Dirty plays happen, and 99.9% of the time their accidents (otherwise how do you explain Pacioretty's hit on Eaton back in December?), that doesn't mean we hate the Bruins and start rooting for a different team. You support your home team, and try to see things objectively when things like this happen.
sure they can find others... none will give as much though... Hey Gary, we're calling out your bluff... we now you're in deep ****...
Yes! AC has to call his bluff, sure they can use US carriers for trans-border games, but who will fly the National games? Westjet? I think not because it will be bad publicity on WJ, I don't think WJ even has spare aircraft to dedicate to the 6 Canadian teams.
Bettman only sees dollar signs. He has a star player out for a significant period of time & for damn sure he doesn't want another star player out due to delivering a horrific hit. Gillies, who is a nobody gets a tough sentence but the face of the Bruins gets ****!
So Bettmann says a big F... U... to his sponsors!!! If I'm an owner I'm thinking this little Sh** has crossed the line and is going to ruin my meagre bottom line. Mario? Molsons? Ontario Teachers Federation? Where are you guys? Fire this little dork already!!!
Slew-Footing is a part of the game too just like interference both part of the game both illegal, but if Ryan White with his no history of disciplinary action happens to slew foot Chara as they go into the boards and Chara shatters his ankle and is out for the season would we hear the same thing?
This is expected from a spineless commish running a spineless league. Everyone's just concerned about protecting their own fat @--, not about the long term well-being of the sport.
I'm on top of a building, throw a bowling bowl off it trying to land in my net where I'm playing, instead, I miss and hit the guy that walks out of nowhere. Am I responsible?
As much as I hate Bettman and the NHL offices sometimes, don't you guys think that Bettman is only the messenger ? Does he have any real power or is it the board of governors spearheaded by Jacobs that decides everything ? What can Bettman do if his own BoG gives him these types of directives ?
I'm on top of a building, throw a bowling bowl off it trying to land in my net where I'm playing, instead, I miss and hit the guy that walks out of nowhere. Am I responsible?
Pretty much, you're responsible for a stupid action.
renaud lavoie
Bettman à Washington: "la blessure de Max Pacioretty est horible, mais fait partie du jeu".
... and he's right. It's simply horribly unfortunate a player got as hurt as has occurred. Remove the stanchions and reduce the chances for future occurrences. All the best Max.
I disagree with just about everything you said here. I know from the Bruins side of HFboards, a large majority of our fanbase thought Chara deserved a fine and suspension. We disagree about the intent, but lets face it, you guys aren't ever going to agree that Chara didn't want to hurt Pacioretty and I'm never going to agree that he did want to. At the same time, a lot of us, myself included, thought that intent or not, Chara deserved to be suspended simply because this is the kind of play we don't want in hockey. Can things be done to prevent these hits in the future like modifying stanchion design, etc? Yes. Should they be done? Yes. Does this make what Chara did, accidentally or otherwise, ok? No.
Oh and by the way, about the last line of your post, get over yourself. No group is without their detractors, there are Habs fans that you wouldn't want representing the way you think, the same way there are Bruins fans who don't represent the way I think, or the rest of the fan base. Dirty plays happen, and 99.9% of the time their accidents (otherwise how do you explain Pacioretty's hit on Eaton back in December?), that doesn't mean we hate the Bruins and start rooting for a different team. You support your home team, and try to see things objectively when things like this happen.
Your team's fan base and record speak for themselves.
There's a reason Orr, Neely, Bergeron and Savard have all suffered career-threatening/ending injuries. You build a team that plays a certain way, and other teams will take liberties on them.
Your fans scream for blood, pumping up guys like Lucic and Thornton, calling it 'old-time' hockey. They're right, it is 'old-time' hockey, only it's from the 1940s and 50s. Somewhere along the way people forgot to tell teams like the Bruins that the game changed, and so you had 'the Big Bad Bruins' of the 70s who people claimed were playing a new style of in your face hockey. They weren't, they were a relic that other teams passed by. And they still are a relic. That's why they haven't won anything since 1972.
The Canadiens of the 70s showed how to beat teams like the Bruins and Flyers: By playing hockey. The influx of European talent into the league only further highlighted this with the Oilers in the 80s, the Penguins in the 90s, and the Devils and Red Wings after them. All teams built to play hockey. Yes, they had their tough customers, but that wasn't their identity. It was window dressing. The Bruins, however, decided to keep this identity. And look where it's gotten them. Out of the playoffs at the worst of times and chokers at the best.
And it's not like they don't have talented players. Bergeron, Krejci, Savard... But they decide to force this ridiculously archaic team identity onto them so you end up having little ******* like Brad Marchand shooting off his mouth in the media when he couldn't box his way out of a wet paper bag. Just to rile things up, to make the guys in the locker room feel like big men, and to make their fans feel like big men.
It doesn't work. Maybe they'll fluke their way to a Cup one of these days, they certainly have the talent to, but it isn't a recipe for success. All it does is create bad blood, and when other teams retaliate it costs them the Orrs of the world, and the Neelys and now the Bergerons and the Savards. And the fans don't care, and the team doesn't care.
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Coaches to their players: "I've received a memo from Bettman that the hit on Pacioretty is part and play of the game, so next time, you have someone in a vulnerable position, please take advantage of it, it doesn't matter, it's only the life and career of the person that gets injured, what's more important is that we have a better chance at 2 points!!!"
**** Bettman and his Penguins and now his Bruins. I detest this league.
Bettman is a lot of things, but he isn't stupid. The league's stance on this issue, along with many others involving player injuries this year, will come into play in the upcoming civil case surrounding the Moore/Bertuzzi incident.
If the NHL were to make a statement that the Chara hit was wrong, or anything other than a 'hockey play', it would give ammunition to Moore's side of this upcoming case. The unfortunate part of all this is that Pacioretty's life and career basically gets treated like a pawn in this game of legal chess...
... and he's right. It's simply horribly unfortunate a player got as hurt as has occurred. Remove the stanchions and reduce the chances for future occurrences. All the best Max.
He's wrong. It was a bad hockey play. Interference is a penalty and illegal. Chara was going to get beat so he ran him into the stanchion. He knew full well what he was doing even though he obviously won't admit it. I'm still po'ed because he hasn't even said he's sorry.
