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03-11-2011, 08:55 PM
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Also an expiring does this team nothing. How did the Kapono and Songailia expirings help? This team would not be using the money gained from a Sammy expiring for anything. Good chance Noce walks or gets bought out.

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03-11-2011, 09:03 PM
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This is like the Abreu trade. You get rid of a malcontent to improve the team dynamic. Hawes isnt as needy. And while the chances are slim they are better than the chances Sammy becomes solid.
Different situation. Sammy wouldn't be the best player on the team and therefore wouldn't be in the front of the leadership group like Abreu was. Sammy is already solid- maybe not offensively but as a defender and rebounder and guy who can finish at the rim. That's already more than Hawes will probably ever be in his career. Even if they didn't use the money from an expiring contract to make a splash right away it's better than having the money sitting on the bench doing nothing. Nocioni has already said he'll probaby request a trade if he doesn't start getting some PT. So you would have traded one guy who wants out for another one.

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03-11-2011, 09:05 PM
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Pretty cool - good team pro hoops in Philly
Philly is 4 for 4 at the moment as far as having competitive (probably playoff calibur) teams. I doubt a lot of cities can say that.

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03-11-2011, 09:33 PM
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great win for the sixers. how far they have come since 3-13.

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03-12-2011, 08:59 AM
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Different situation. Sammy wouldn't be the best player on the team and therefore wouldn't be in the front of the leadership group like Abreu was. Sammy is already solid- maybe not offensively but as a defender and rebounder and guy who can finish at the rim. That's already more than Hawes will probably ever be in his career. Even if they didn't use the money from an expiring contract to make a splash right away it's better than having the money sitting on the bench doing nothing. Nocioni has already said he'll probaby request a trade if he doesn't start getting some PT. So you would have traded one guy who wants out for another one.
It isn't about being the best player. Lou williams isnt even in the top 3 of players in this team but he is in the leadership group because he is relatively speaking a veteran. Sammy is almost 30 and has been in the league a while just through that he'd be a part of the leadership group and he'd be a bad influence in it. Noce gave the sixers some time for Turner to adjust. Now they will probably dump him in the offseason and who knows what the new CBA does but I am guessing hawes sticks around for a couple years.

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03-12-2011, 11:22 AM
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It isn't about being the best player. Lou williams isnt even in the top 3 of players in this team but he is in the leadership group because he is relatively speaking a veteran. Sammy is almost 30 and has been in the league a while just through that he'd be a part of the leadership group and he'd be a bad influence in it. Noce gave the sixers some time for Turner to adjust. Now they will probably dump him in the offseason and who knows what the new CBA does but I am guessing hawes sticks around for a couple years.
Not saying he wouldn't be a part of the group in charge of the locker room, but I think there's a difference between your best player setting a bad example and a role player having some negative impact. It's not like Sammy is a terrible person, he wouldn't sink the team on his own. Just two years ago he was part of a playoff team that almost upset a much better opponent.

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03-12-2011, 11:27 AM
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I'm not a basketball fan at all, but I've been watching the Sixers alot lately. They are starting to make it enjoyable to watch them.

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03-12-2011, 11:37 AM
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Not saying he wouldn't be a part of the group in charge of the locker room, but I think there's a difference between your best player setting a bad example and a role player having some negative impact. It's not like Sammy is a terrible person, he wouldn't sink the team on his own. Just two years ago he was part of a playoff team that almost upset a much better opponent.
Its not that he would be a role player...he would be a part of the veteran leadership. You dont want someone like him being a part of the leadership. For all the crap we give Brand and Iguodala they are solid influences on how to act like professionals. Also Brand and Sammy did not get along and since Sammy left Brand has had a very good season.q

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03-12-2011, 04:08 PM
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Its not that he would be a role player...he would be a part of the veteran leadership. You dont want someone like him being a part of the leadership. For all the crap we give Brand and Iguodala they are solid influences on how to act like professionals. Also Brand and Sammy did not get along and since Sammy left Brand has had a very good season.q
I doubt Sammy leaving has anything to do with Brand having a better year. More likely its the recovery from the surgery he had since it was a pretty big one. Basically, because of guys like Iggy and Brand, I don't think Sammy would bring the team down with off the court stuff. But on the court, his biggest strength is our biggest weakness.

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03-12-2011, 04:33 PM
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Sammy needed to be gone. When he didn't get the ball on offense he would literally stop playing defense. For those who watched the Sixers a lot it was pretty easy to see. His stats just looked great because he would cheat in the middle the whole game and get a couple blocks.

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03-12-2011, 08:48 PM
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Down by 19 to the Bucks with 10 minutes left.

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03-12-2011, 11:18 PM
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Never understood why the Sixers seem to be completely irrelevant in Philly. It just always seems like aside from the AI era, the Sixers do not draw like the Flyers home or away. Never got why Philly has been one of the rare towns where NHL>>>NBA.
Outsider view, but is this the case?

Is hockey bigger than hoops or just Flyers >>> Sixers?
You go up to NY and Knicks>Rangers.
Philly is a big diverse city, why is their NBA so poorly supported relative to others NHL/NBA cities?

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Never understood why the Sixers seem to be completely irrelevant in Philly. It just always seems like aside from the AI era, the Sixers do not draw like the Flyers home or away. Never got why Philly has been one of the rare towns where NHL>>>NBA.
Outsider view, but is this the case?

Is hockey bigger than hoops or just Flyers >>> Sixers?
You go up to NY and Knicks>Rangers.
Philly is a big diverse city, why is their NBA so poorly supported relative to others NHL/NBA cities?
Flyers are definitely bigger then the Sixer here IMO. Sixers have had 1 good player in most peoples eyes in the past like 12 years, whereas the Flyers are always competitive and always adding good player.

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03-13-2011, 09:33 AM
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Never understood why the Sixers seem to be completely irrelevant in Philly. It just always seems like aside from the AI era, the Sixers do not draw like the Flyers home or away. Never got why Philly has been one of the rare towns where NHL>>>NBA.
Outsider view, but is this the case?

Is hockey bigger than hoops or just Flyers >>> Sixers?
You go up to NY and Knicks>Rangers.
Philly is a big diverse city, why is their NBA so poorly supported relative to others NHL/NBA cities?
Sixers usually being terrible being the main reason.


Blowout loss to the Bucks doesn't hurt as much after beating the Celtics.

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03-13-2011, 10:46 AM
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Sixers usually being terrible being the main reason.


Blowout loss to the Bucks doesn't hurt as much after beating the Celtics.
You never want to get ripped by a bad team like that, but it was really set up for it. Coming off a big home win against the best team in the conference, then playing on the road the next night against one of the worst. And it was the 4th game in 5 nights. The schedule maker definitely didn't do them any favors, and they're back at it tomorrow. 5 games last week and 4 games this week is pretty crazy.

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03-13-2011, 11:38 AM
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After the All Star Break they basically average a game every other day. Last night was a trap game. BUT like I said last time all about the response in the next game. I think we have some wins coming up.

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03-13-2011, 12:52 PM
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The Bucks aren't terrible Jennings was hurt and when he came back he didn't find his groove he makes that team a playoff team.

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03-17-2011, 06:51 AM
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The sixers showed a lot last night. They could have just rolled over after blake griffin got a bunch of superstar calls to end the first half...but they kept their heads in the game after Doug Collins was tossed and won it.

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03-17-2011, 07:16 AM
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Great work by Collins, textbook example of how to use technicals to galvanize your team.

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Great work by Collins, textbook example of how to use technicals to galvanize your team.
Since when does coaching matter?

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best way to snap a losing streak is to play the clippers. griffin was a ***** last night.

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Jodie Meeks development has been HUGE.

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Sixers now in 6th place, 0.5 games up on the Knicks after blowing out the Kings last night.

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Sixers now in 6th place, 0.5 games up on the Knicks after blowing out the Kings last night.
Yup, and only 3 games back of Atlanta, who the Sixers play in Philly on Wednesday. Big game.

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