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03-16-2011, 03:32 PM
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Rangers agree to terms with Dylan McIlrath

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#NYR signs Ryan Bourque and Dylan McIlrath
https://twitter.com/#!/NYDNRangers/s...18802776465408

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Rangers also agree to terms with hard-hitting defenseman Dylan McIlrath, 141 PIM w/ Moose Jaw in the WHL this season.
https://twitter.com/#!/mike_morreale...19416440889344


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Wow, nice, will probably start off in the Whale.

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Wow, nice, will probably start off in the Whale.
I don't think he can until the 2012-2013 season.

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NICE

What does that mean playing wise, does/can he stay in the Q?

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What does that mean playing wise, does/can he stay in the Q?
He plays in the WHL.

And he will unless he somehow makes the team.

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Does this mean they want him on the NHL team next season? Signing him at this point is kind of a surprise.

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McIlrath has another season of junior eligibility remaining. His contract slides to 2012-13 if he doesn't play 10 NHL games next season. He could sign an ATO to play in CT this season if CT is still playing and MJ is not playing. MJ has clinched a playoff spot.

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Press release

http://rangers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=556304

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He plays in the WHL.

And he will unless he somehow makes the team.
Wrong thread meant to post that in the other thread about bourque who plays in the Q.
Question answered either way.

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I don't understand the rush to sign him and give him a contract when we have other guys who need contracts, but obviously they must have big things in mind for him.

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This one kind of caught me off guard. Still expect him to be playing in juniors next year though.

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I don't understand the rush to sign him and give him a contract when we have other guys who need contracts, but obviously they must have big things in mind for him.
There is no downside to signing McIlrath now. His ELC won't count against the 50 SPC limit next season if he doesn't make the Rangers. He can only play for the Rangers or Moose Jaw next season. The Rangers did the same thing with Marc Staal and Michael Del Zotto. They were signed early.

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There is no downside to signing McIlrath now. His ELC won't count against the 50 SPC limit next season if he doesn't make the Rangers. He can only play for the Rangers or Moose Jaw next season. The Rangers did the same thing with Marc Staal and Michael Del Zotto. They were signed early.
It also makes them great trading chips if need be!

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Ive been curious. Once a player has signed a contract, does that allow a team to extend certain benefits to a player?

More specifically, now that Mcilrath and Bourque have signed, can they train in the offseason at the Rangers facility, have access to Rangers personnel (trainers, diet coaches) etc?

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Any rational explanations why these two over other prospects still without ELC?

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As I recall, the Rangers have 2 years in which to sign a player, from when he's drafted. Otherwise, they'd loose his rights and he could reenter the draft or become UFA, depending on how old he is.

These guys are important prospects for the Rangers' system, the Rangers are planning to sign them and there's no real sense in waiting. Perhaps this was just a good time in negotiations with the two. Perhaps they wanted to show some support for the kids before their playoffs start.

There are two parties to every contract negotiation, even when you're talking with drafted, unsigned prospects.

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Any rational explanations why these two over other prospects still without ELC?
You will have to be more specific, but if you are referring to any NCAA prospect then yes. Easy to sign WHL prospects, complicated to sign NCAA.

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Good signings on both. As far as I know Rangers only have around 45 players on NHL contracts. There's some guys who won't be back and some who need or should be signed.

Other than Bourque other Ranger prospects needing to be signed--Kreider (don't have to sign him but they will try hard to), Werek, Hagelin, Horak. Have to make decisions on Wilson (yes), Campbell (maybe, maybe not), McNaught, Maggio, Stajcer.

A few easy ones who won't be back--Dowzak, McCue, Todd White--other potentials Drury, Jeremy Williams, Didomete, Soryal, Eminger, Frolov, Bickel. Any maybe if we're really lucky Redden.

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Wilson should be a no. He should only get an AHL deal.

Maggio, Campbell, and Stajcer the same. None should get NHL deals. Same with McNaught.

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why are these signings happening today?

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Ive been curious. Once a player has signed a contract, does that allow a team to extend certain benefits to a player?

More specifically, now that Mcilrath and Bourque have signed, can they train in the offseason at the Rangers facility, have access to Rangers personnel (trainers, diet coaches) etc?
that is only an issue for ncaa players...like if kreider plans to stay in school he can't attend traverse city unless he pays his own way to keep his ncaa eligibility. but its a non-issue for junior players

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There is no downside to signing McIlrath now. His ELC won't count against the 50 SPC limit next season if he doesn't make the Rangers. He can only play for the Rangers or Moose Jaw next season. The Rangers did the same thing with Marc Staal and Michael Del Zotto. They were signed early.
The downside is that if McIlrath suffers a career ending injury (or even death ala Cherepanov), the Rangers would no longer be compensated with the #40 pick in a subsequent draft.

We have Ethan Werek as a prospect only because Cherepanov passed away and we were compensated with the #47 pick. Granted, we'd all rather have Cherepanov, and you don't want anyone to suffer a career ending injury, let alone pass away, but signing McIlrath now makes little sense to me, because you lose that "get out of jail free-er card."

The only way it does make sense is if you're signing him at a cheaper rate now and believe that his value will be going up and that it would be more expensive to sign him later.

EDIT: To clarify, the rule is that if you are unable to sign your first round draft pick (for whatever reason), you are compensated with a pick 30 spots later in a subsequent draft. See Cherepanov. If you are able to sign your first round draft pick but they are unable to ever play for your team, you are not compensated. See Luc Bourdon - who died in a motorcycle accident after signing with the Canucks.


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Wilson should be a no. He should only get an AHL deal.

Maggio, Campbell, and Stajcer the same. None should get NHL deals. Same with McNaught.
At least what I've read between the lines here and there the Rangers have some hopes for Wilson. So I don't know. To me if you're a few players under the 50 limit it wouldn't be a big deal. And in respect to guys like Dowzak, McCue and Klassen, Chappell who are all on NHL deals--Wilson has higher upside

Agree with the rest. McNaught may have a future but it's as a Boogaard type. Maggio has not had a good season. Stajcer was inconsistent last year--looked better early on this year but has missed the greater majority of the season with injury. Campbell has had a good season but numbers wise it's not a big leap from his freshman year. Seems to be a bit light for his size and with defensive issues. His absolute upside would be someone like Dominic Moore who is way ahead of Campbell as a defensive player. I don't know if he's worth investing in.

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