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2011-2012 Florida Panthers Prospect Thread

Looks like the last one is almost filled up, might as well get the next one going. This thread is one of the main reasons I keep coming back to HF. Just a lot of different personalities/perspectives on our prospects around the world.

Interesting article on Gudbranson, demonstrating that he is a vocal leader of his team.

http://www.thewhig.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3016255

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Per GR, Jake Markstrom is out for rest of the year after successful knee surgery.

Does anyone have any insider info on this? IIRC he was due back in Rochester about a week ago after rehabbing his knee.

Also, article on Marc Cheverie below from Kevin O. below:

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...chester-Amerks

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Gudbranson keeps on plugging away. Another G tonight. He's put up solid offensive numbers since the WJC. That's 12 on the season for those of you keeping score at home.

Landeskog(potential Cats selection) too potted a G.

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Great write up J17. This past draft certainly looks promising. MR, do you care to do a similar write up? I'd love to see your thoughts as well?

Do you two think it's fair to say this is the most promising draft after one year that this team has ever had? It looks that way to me.
Rounds 1 & 2

Gudbranson-He's progressed this season as we should have expected from a 3rd overall pick, but it's still exciting to see how he's presently coming along. Going back to junior was beyond a doubt the best thing for him, as J17 said. He's scoring at a 53 pt. pace pro-rated, his offensive game is where we hoped it would be at this point. He's developed a lot better accuracy on his slapshot and it is now a legitimate weapon. He's also improved his decision making when shooting which has also contributed to bumping his point total up. Of course, he's also a bruiser in his own end who's a shutdown specialist. His NHL career looks very promising at this point, with extremely low bust risk and a fairly high upside.

Bjugstad-He had a tough initial transition to the NCAA coming straight out of high school and then missing weeks with mono, but in the last two months he broke out in a big way. He forced Minny head coach Don Lucia to promote him to 1st line center and by the end of the season he was perhaps Minny's best skater. The encouraging thing is IMO he's still raw and he's only scratched the surface of his potential so far. He's still a bit awkward on his skates due to being 19 years old and 6'5", and that should improve over time. When he grows into his massive frame and gains even more strength, he could be a dominant force. He's evolving into a great all-around player under the guidance of Lucia and while it's hard to predict what exactly he'll become, the sky is the limit for him.

Howden-Doesn't play that fancy of a game but he consistently drives hard to the net, is an excellent skater, and has hands that have been constantly underrated but are now slowly gaining recognition. He plays hard and for keeps, and is great on the defensive side of the puck. He's had a great offensive season but could probably do to spend at least one more year in the WHL and dominate that league, and be a top 6 player at the WJC. There isn't a great need to rush him, patience will pay off tenfold with this kid. He looks like he could become a key piece of the future, and so great care must be taken with him, as it is with Bjugstad being allowed to develop at his own pace at Minnesota. He completes the trifecta of what looks like a terrific 2010 first round so far for the Panthers.

McFarland-He hasn't had the season Panthers fans hoped for and there's no doubt he has become more consistent, but he's the kind of guy who might break out any year because of his skill level, which is very high. The tragic, for lack of a better word, part of McFarland's game is he doesn't seem to know how to translate that skill into production. Most of his goals are highlight reel material but they are too few and far between. His assist totals also went down this year, although his goals went up. All in all, he's produced at a pace that is OK for a potential 2nd-3rd line tweener, but he leaves you wanting a lot more. One consolation is he has a decent defensive game and plays with an edge, which with his size and swift skating could make him a valuable 3rd liner. He clearly has a lot of work to do though and is not where the Panthers hoped he would be at this point for sure.

Petrovic-He has really becoming a premier puckmoving defenseman in the WHL and now one can say he's a legit puckmoving prospect instead of a defensive d-man with some offensive potential. He obviously remains a punishing physical force and steady prescence in his own end. He needs to improve his consistency in his own end, but he has shown flashes this season of being absolutely dominant. If he can improve on his defensive lapses and keep developing offensively, he could become not just a good but a great NHL defenseman. There's a lot of ifs but I believe the potential is there.

Brickley-A big ball of hate who doesn't know how not to play intensely. One of the positives of Brickley's game is you never have to worry about him not being up for games. He hits anything that moves and asks questions later. He's a very good skater who is fearless in traffic and is a good playmaker. The big negative about Brickley's game, for which he has gotten a bad rap dating back a couple years and has supposedly scared off coaches in international competition, is that he often goes too far over the edge. He has to learn to reign it in a little and learn to pick his spots, but hopefully that will happen as it appears he will spend a lengthy amount of time in college. He will have a few years to hone his game and round out his rough edges.

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Nice write-up, both you guys...

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Rounds 3-7

Basaraba-Has been buried in Minn.-Duluth's depth this season, starting off on the 4th line and then a couple months later being promoted to the 3rd line regularly. He might have been a top 6 forward on some other teams. He has strength to match his size and he plays a gritty style. He's great along the boards and is hard to get the puck from along the wall. He also has soft hands and has a heavy shot. He's a very good skater as well and is a pretty decent stickhandler. He has nice straightaway speed and is fairly agile for a big guy. He's a bit of a toughy to read right now, because he's gotten so little playing time, next year should tell a lot more about him. He's one to keep an eye on though.

Brittain- Everyone knows about his freshman season at Denver, it's been stellar. A nice blend of pure athleticism, strong technical play and good size. He's made Denver forget about Cheverie very quickly. He has tons of potential for sure and is a potential steal.

Gallacher- Seems to have had an OK season in the AJHL offensively. Is billed as a puckmoving d-man with grit although undersized. Was decent at rookie camp, but clearly he's a longterm project with not much of a shot for an NHL career.

Donskoi-Has had a very solid season offensively in the SM-Liiga for a forward his age. I liked the grit he played with at the WJC in addition to the skill he showed. A decent forward prospect for us.

Hyman-I think everything on Hyman has been covered here for the past few months. Obviously next season is going to be Hyman Watch 2011-12 as he makes his highly anticipated debut at Princeton.

Durocher- Hasn't produced at an impressive rate at all this season. He does a lot of little things well but doesn't seem to really have the goods to produce bigtime offensively despite the fact that his hands really aren't that bad. He does have potential as a bottom six player though. He might have to transform his game to more of a grimier style though to accomodate that.

Boyd- He started off at a decent offensive pace at Sacred Heart, but seems to have struggled offensively in the USHL. Which is a little hard to understand. He's supposedly a swift skating puckmoving d-man. Clearly he's a longshot.

All in all, while it's too early to declare this draft a success by any stretch, one has to admit it does look promising. The potential is there for this to be a stellar draft. I like how a lot of the draftees have progressed. We won't know how it turns out though for several more years.

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Awesome write ups, thanks very much.

When can we realistically think we'll see these guys competing for a spot on the Panthers? I want them to develop properly, obviously, but I'm also eager to have em here.

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Awesome write ups, thanks very much.
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When can we realistically think we'll see these guys competing for a spot on the Panthers? I want them to develop properly, obviously, but I'm also eager to have em here.

I think like MR said, we have to give Bjugs and Howden time. Going by what MR and 17 have said, I think we will see both of them two years from now, at the earliest. Howden seems to be the more ready of the two, so maybe he gets time in the 12-13 season, which is the season I expect both to play for our minor league affiliate, whoever that will be.

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Gudbranson could even be back in Juniors next year... Love his progression and all, big fan of his game !

But we'll have so much depth on D, it will be hard for him to make it.

Our first pick this year may be on the roster though !

Like you guys, I'm looking forward to Howden being a go-to guy on next WJC Canadian team. He should progress even further next year, he really has those tools. Lightning fast, great two-way player with real quick hands are a great combo in this new NHL. I just love his character and drive... The kid was hurt at 7 or something, and told he couldn't walk again... He just can't satisfy himself. And he wants to prove people wrong... He certainly has the great talent to backup his competitiveness.

Bjugstad is such a gem IMO... I want us to be real patient with this kid because he is so raw. He may become our Jeff Carter, and could be way better... The sky is the limit !

It's a fact I have a man-crush on McFarland, the kind of man-crush I have for Mike Duco too for example. He may not become the great scorer I wished, he may lack hockey-sense a bit to get to that level... But he has everything else, and I'm looking forward to see what he can do in the playoffs with Saginaw !

Petrovic may be our steal of the draft... I would like to seem him score some more. But his mean streak is just a joy to watch, and he is still quite the puck-mover. Erik and Alex may anchor our team as our two towers of defense in the near future, and I'm drooling about that ! Petrovic is just a forgotten man in our prospect pool where he really shouldn't be !

Other guys are a coin-flip right now, but Donskoi and Hyman may look like two great prospects down the road.

Brittain assures us we'll have some great goaltending depth for ever !

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This organization has never had a "good draft" before... which is how you explain the shape it's in. Hopefully last year's draft will one day be remembered as the one that started the turnaround.

I'm thinking it's 60/40 for Gudbranson to make the big club next year.

It's 30/70 for Howden.

I'll go on a limb and say that the 1st round pick, whoever it is, has a 70/30 chance of being on NHL ice.

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I know you guys are talking about 2010, but I really like Drew Shore. He might be a steal too, really liked him during the WJC. Could make the team in a year or so?

I'm also very high on McFarland, every goal I've seen him score for Saginaw has been driving to the net, powerforward-like, or some wicked wristshots. Maybe he hasn't put up the points that were expected with his talent, but I think he could suddenly burst out because he has all the tools to be a great player. So don't give up on John McFarland, he could be the type of player that is more suited for the pro-level.

Both of Petrovic and McFarland could have gone in the 1st round last year, so in a way we got 5 first round players. Not a fan of the Brickley pick either when Zucker and Järnkrok was left on the board, but he could be a good 3rd line energy guy with some scoring.

Donskoi seems to be a gem, very impressive skill-set and plays in a mens league.

Great to hear that Brittain is doing well, could also be a gem.

Bjugstad is finally starting to produce and that is good news. He has all the tools to succeed in the NHL, great pick.

Gudbransson is being a beast, like expected. I like that he is scoring a lot of goals. Was voted the hardest shot in the OHL (eastern conference). Physical and nasty, will be a monster in the NHL and has the winning and leader attitude.

Howden never stops impressing me. Fantastic skater, great both ways, nice hands and scoring ability. I was high on him going into the draft, and at this point it seems like I got it right. Everyone was screaming for Etem, but I wanted Howden Just saying..

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Gudbranson could even be back in Juniors next year... Love his progression and all, big fan of his game !

But we'll have so much depth on D, it will be hard for him to make it.

Our first pick this year may be on the roster though !

Like you guys, I'm looking forward to Howden being a go-to guy on next WJC Canadian team. He should progress even further next year, he really has those tools. Lightning fast, great two-way player with real quick hands are a great combo in this new NHL. I just love his character and drive... The kid was hurt at 7 or something, and told he couldn't walk again... He just can't satisfy himself. And he wants to prove people wrong... He certainly has the great talent to backup his competitiveness.

Bjugstad is such a gem IMO... I want us to be real patient with this kid because he is so raw. He may become our Jeff Carter, and could be way better... The sky is the limit !

It's a fact I have a man-crush on McFarland, the kind of man-crush I have for Mike Duco too for example. He may not become the great scorer I wished, he may lack hockey-sense a bit to get to that level... But he has everything else, and I'm looking forward to see what he can do in the playoffs with Saginaw !

Petrovic may be our steal of the draft... I would like to seem him score some more. But his mean streak is just a joy to watch, and he is still quite the puck-mover. Erik and Alex may anchor our team as our two towers of defense in the near future, and I'm drooling about that ! Petrovic is just a forgotten man in our prospect pool where he really shouldn't be !

Other guys are a coin-flip right now, but Donskoi and Hyman may look like two great prospects down the road.

Brittain assures us we'll have some great goaltending depth for ever !
Too much depth defensivly ahead of Guds? We got 2 ahlers on our defense right now and none of our AHLers except Ellerby is ready to take the step up.

I really liked Petrovic always and thought he could become a steal for us. Hopefully he pans out

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Too much depth defensivly ahead of Guds? We got 2 ahlers on our defense right now and none of our AHLers except Ellerby is ready to take the step up.

I really liked Petrovic always and thought he could become a steal for us. Hopefully he pans out
Well we have Garrison and Weaver as locks, Kulikov is our main guy on the blue-line, Ellerby should be given a full-time job !

That's 4 spots taken... I believe Tallon will target one of the premiere defenseman available in the summer... That's one spot left for Gudbranson !

And I expect Tallon to sign Wilson and Callahan or guys to replace them at the AHL level... Sulzer could be signed as the 6th guy, some others for depth and training camp competition (like Paetsch last year)... Really it's not a given that Gudbranson stays next year...

And we still have Robak, Comrie, Kostka and some others in the AHL.

Tallon has a lot to do with our forwards rank, but the defense won't be forgotten... He won't give a job to Gudbranson before training camp... But him and Petrovic could make it in the same year, he seems pretty high on both of them, just take a look at litterbox, he has some comments by Tallon on a radio !

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Well we have Garrison and Weaver as locks, Kulikov is our main guy on the blue-line, Ellerby should be given a full-time job !

That's 4 spots taken... I believe Tallon will target one of the premiere defenseman available in the summer... That's one spot left for Gudbranson !

And I expect Tallon to sign Wilson and Callahan or guys to replace them at the AHL level... Sulzer could be signed as the 6th guy, some others for depth and training camp competition (like Paetsch last year)... Really it's not a given that Gudbranson stays next year...

And we still have Robak, Comrie, Kostka and some others in the AHL.

Tallon has a lot to do with our forwards rank, but the defense won't be forgotten... He won't give a job to Gudbranson before training camp... But him and Petrovic could make it in the same year, he seems pretty high on both of them, just take a look at litterbox, he has some comments by Tallon on a radio !
Couldn't Gudbranson goto AHL?

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He is January-born... In 1992... So he will be a 20 years old in the new year, making him ineligible for the start of the AHL season ! His birthday would have to be before the 31st of December in 2011 or 25th, don't remember the exact number to make the cut.

In the 2011-2012, he would have to be 20 in 2011 to be able to go the AHL... Since it's in 2012, it's Junior or NHL for Erik !

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One minor note on Brickley - Kevin Sneddon's final "Coach's Show" of the season on WVMT 620AM was on this morning, and during the interview he said he thought the line Brickley was on (I'm forgetting his two linemates already ) was UVM's best down the stretch.

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Well we have Garrison and Weaver as locks, Kulikov is our main guy on the blue-line, Ellerby should be given a full-time job !

That's 4 spots taken... I believe Tallon will target one of the premiere defenseman available in the summer... That's one spot left for Gudbranson !

And I expect Tallon to sign Wilson and Callahan or guys to replace them at the AHL level... Sulzer could be signed as the 6th guy, some others for depth and training camp competition (like Paetsch last year)... Really it's not a given that Gudbranson stays next year...

And we still have Robak, Comrie, Kostka and some others in the AHL.

Tallon has a lot to do with our forwards rank, but the defense won't be forgotten... He won't give a job to Gudbranson before training camp... But him and Petrovic could make it in the same year, he seems pretty high on both of them, just take a look at litterbox, he has some comments by Tallon on a radio !
No one is given a full time job regardless of what it appears like (Gudbranson or Ellerby). And we shouldnt just assume anyone is penciled in or "locks" for any roster spots. Tallon could just as easily traded Weaver or Garrison in the offseason.

Gudbranson had basically earned a spot this past yr in camp so I see no reason why he wouldnt earn that spot this yr, baring a bad camp. Sulzer is a possibility to be signed but he wont prevent Gudbranson from making the roster. The only way I could see Gudbranson not making it, is if Tallon signs 2-3 top flight d-men this summer.

Also I dont expect Tallon to re-sign Wilson or Callahan but probably look for replacements for the AHL...depending on the affiliation situation which isnt resolved yet. And the other guys in the AHL you mentioned arent anywhere ready for the NHL.

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No one is given a full time job regardless of what it appears like (Gudbranson or Ellerby). And we shouldnt just assume anyone is penciled in or "locks" for any roster spots. Tallon could just as easily traded Weaver or Garrison in the offseason.

Gudbranson had basically earned a spot this past yr in camp so I see no reason why he wouldnt earn that spot this yr, baring a bad camp. Sulzer is a possibility to be signed but he wont prevent Gudbranson from making the roster. The only way I could see Gudbranson not making it, is if Tallon signs 2-3 top flight d-men this summer.

Also I dont expect Tallon to re-sign Wilson or Callahan but probably look for replacements for the AHL...depending on the affiliation situation which isnt resolved yet. And the other guys in the AHL you mentioned arent anywhere ready for the NHL.
You're saying no one is given a full time job, yet you're assuming Gudbranson is a lock to make the roster...

Tallon could even trade Gudbranson by your reasoning ?

You think Tallon would trade one of his two most "underpaid" (cheaper) and best defensemen ?

As I've said we have Garrison, Weaver and Kulikov for next year... I want Ellerby there too and I think he'll grab his spot by the end of the year. That's two spots open for Gudbranson, let's say Tallon brings one premier defenseman from free agency and adds more depth (replacing the Wilsons, Callahans and co, like you said and like I said because you didn't read me well there... ) for AHL and NHL...

Gudbranson will have to beat every depth guy... I know his talent and I know he can do it... But it isn't a given, and in my scenario we only sign one defenseman (I would love Brewer or Jovo, Brewer is younger !) and some depth !

It is likely... And I would like to see Erik and our new shiny top draft pick on our opening roster next year !

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You're saying no one is given a full time job, yet you're assuming Gudbranson is a lock to make the roster...
Nowhere did I say he was a lock...just that he "should" be able to earn a spot. That doesnt mean he's just given that spot ("a lock") without needing to earn it. I thought that was clear by my explanation and reasoning.
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Tallon could even trade Gudbranson by your reasoning ?

You think Tallon would trade one of his two most "underpaid" (cheaper) and best defensemen ?
Yeah Gudbranson could even be traded but its doubtful.

And yes I could see Tallon trading 2 of his most underpaid/cheaper and best d-men because they will be EXTREMELY valuable to other teams lacking cap space and needing good d-men. Those 2 guys could bring back some really good assets, like a scoring forward if leveraged properly during the offseason. Also he said he'd be active in the free agent market and its a good yr to go out and get some in free agency (Pitkanen, Ehrhoff, Jovo, Markov, etc). If he gets 2 top d-men, I just feel like one of those guys could be made available via trade.
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As I've said we have Garrison, Weaver and Kulikov for next year... I want Ellerby there too and I think he'll grab his spot by the end of the year. That's two spots open for Gudbranson, let's say Tallon brings one premier defenseman from free agency and adds more depth (replacing the Wilsons, Callahans and co, like you said and like I said because you didn't read me well there... ) for AHL and NHL...
You may "want" Ellerby there but he's been very inconsistent in the NHL (as well as the AHL for that matter). He needs to earn that spot and if he doesnt, I doubt Tallon keeps him in the NHL. Thats just how Tallon works as we saw with Grabner...you gotta earn everything or you're not gonna be here.

The only guy I could say is really assured of being here next yr is Kulikov. And barring any moves, yes both Garrison and Weaver have contracts so they could be here. Beyond that, nothing is guaranteed so that means there's 3-4 NHL jobs that are open.

If you wanted to be more clear about Wilson & Callahan, then say you wanted them replaced. I dont want either guy re-signed and was making that statement that I dont think Tallon would consider re-signing them. He could add some depth d-men but it will still depend on the AHL affiliation which is in a state of flux right now.

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Gudbranson will have to beat every depth guy... I know his talent and I know he can do it... But it isn't a given, and in my scenario we only sign one defenseman (I would love Brewer or Jovo, Brewer is younger !) and some depth !

It is likely... And I would like to see Erik and our new shiny top draft pick on our opening roster next year !
I dont think Gudbranson really has to compete against depth guys to be honest. To me, a "depth guy" is someone who can be replaced in the lineup very easily. A guy like Sulzer would be a depth guy and I dont see that as competition for Gudbranson at this point. He's really going to compete against Ellerby and (possibly) Garrison for spots in the lineup.

I really dont know that Tallon only brings in 1 d-man from outside the org either. He could very easily trade for someone too (some are thinking Barker is a possibility since Tallon drafted him and the Wild could trade him). So a lot of scenarios could exist that may prevent Gudbranson from making the team. But like I said, he "should" make it but that doesnt mean I think he's a "lock".

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I don't think Ellerby is close to having a secure spot. I think Tallon will definitely sign at least one and possibly two UFA d-men. But more importantly, Ellerby has to eliminate what seem to be at least one major mistake a game.

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Ellerby will be on the team because he'd have to clear waivers to be sent down after training camp, same with Repik. It's just a matter of where they slot in. Ellerby's getting better, and by season's end could earn himself a spot in the top 6 instead of just being relegated to the #7 D heading into next season. Garrison earned himself a spot after a half season with us last season. Tallon gave him a 1 way. Ellerby will be a RFA this summer, and if he gets a 1-way as well then he's a virtual lock to make the team next season.

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Ellerby will be on the team because he'd have to clear waivers to be sent down after training camp, same with Repik. It's just a matter of where they slot in. Ellerby's getting better, and by season's end could earn himself a spot in the top 6 instead of just being relegated to the #7 D heading into next season. Garrison earned himself a spot after a half season with us last season. Tallon gave him a 1 way. Ellerby will be a RFA this summer, and if he gets a 1-way as well then he's a virtual lock to make the team next season.
I see Repik being traded... Packaged to get a pick or something... But Tallon won't lose him on waivers like Grabner. He'll pull out the same kind of deal Vancouver did last year, including a good prospect in a package deal.

That's exactly why Ellerby will be on this team next year... He is the most likely to get traded ! But if he signs an extension, Tallon will count him in his top-6.

And I've no problem with that... Ellerby has looked good to me, pretty good. Okay he had a pretty bad stretch but he is getting out of it lately. Kulikov and Ellerby just looks like such a sweet pairing. When they play together they are gold IMO.

We really have two pairs coming in next year with Garrison-Weaver and Ellerby-Kulikov... Now Tallon just needs to find a good mentor for Gudbranson, and another veteran presence to help our blueline core. I'm thinking of Eric Brewer lately...

They are a lot of defensemen available this year, but it shouldn't be our main concern IMO

We have more to gain being in the Brad Richards sweepstakes then signing two or three talented defensemen.

And since we are in the Prospects thread...

Repik and Ellerby are prospects at the end of a cycle, they either stick or get out to find a better chance. Repik is the one going, but Ellerby will be given the chance to succeed here with the pros IMO.

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And yes I could see Tallon trading 2 of his most underpaid/cheaper and best d-men because they will be EXTREMELY valuable to other teams lacking cap space and needing good d-men. Those 2 guys could bring back some really good assets, like a scoring forward if leveraged properly during the offseason. Also he said he'd be active in the free agent market and its a good yr to go out and get some in free agency (Pitkanen, Ehrhoff, Jovo, Markov, etc). If he gets 2 top d-men, I just feel like one of those guys could be made available via trade.
You may "want" Ellerby there but he's been very inconsistent in the NHL (as well as the AHL for that matter). He needs to earn that spot and if he doesnt, I doubt Tallon keeps him in the NHL. Thats just how Tallon works as we saw with Grabner...you gotta earn everything or you're not gonna be here.

The only guy I could say is really assured of being here next yr is Kulikov. And barring any moves, yes both Garrison and Weaver have contracts so they could be here. Beyond that, nothing is guaranteed so that means there's 3-4 NHL jobs that are open.

If you wanted to be more clear about Wilson & Callahan, then say you wanted them replaced. I dont want either guy re-signed and was making that statement that I dont think Tallon would consider re-signing them. He could add some depth d-men but it will still depend on the AHL affiliation which is in a state of flux right now.

I dont think Gudbranson really has to compete against depth guys to be honest. To me, a "depth guy" is someone who can be replaced in the lineup very easily. A guy like Sulzer would be a depth guy and I dont see that as competition for Gudbranson at this point. He's really going to compete against Ellerby and (possibly) Garrison for spots in the lineup.

I really dont know that Tallon only brings in 1 d-man from outside the org either. He could very easily trade for someone too (some are thinking Barker is a possibility since Tallon drafted him and the Wild could trade him). So a lot of scenarios could exist that may prevent Gudbranson from making the team. But like I said, he "should" make it but that doesnt mean I think he's a "lock".
If Garrison or Weaver can bring offensive power, I'll be shocked but gladly apologize !

You have those 3 (Garrison, Weaver, Kulikov) with contract, and you also expect Tallon to sign at least one of the prized defensemen... You have 4 regulars already, 2 spots open !

I don't need to be more clear about Wilson and Callahan: "I expect Tallon to sign Wilson and Callahan or guys to replace them at the AHL level" that was my first post.

You don't think Gudbranson has to compete against depth guy ? So you're counting Erik in your top-4... Then your handing him a spot... You know I don't get it ! Frolik made the team on the fourth-line, Ellerby made the team as our 7th defenseman, Detroit, Nashville, Buffalo and others aren't giving jobs to kids that's the model we should follow. And about every NHL teams have 6th defensemen who are gap-filling guys.

I expect the same from Gudbranson, he should make it but won't be handed a job... I don't know why we're arguing !... Oh yeah... You don't seem to like Ellerby !

Another assist for Erik by the way tonight... -2 though, his team got off to a slow start trailing 4-0 after the first and likely couldn't recover. I haven't been able to watch the OHL lately or any junior hockey.

I just hope we get a lottery pick and even better a top-4, that's all I'm asking for "next year"... Free agency ? We'll see !

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If Garrison or Weaver can bring offensive power, I'll be shocked but gladly apologize !
Definitely not Weaver, but I think Garrison is capable of more, offensively.

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A decent weekend for our college prospects. Basaraba and Minn.-Duluth lost yesterday in a close game, but Knight's Fighting Sioux and Shore's Pioneers both won today so we'll have a Shore-Knight showdown tomorrow night for the WCHA championship. LaPoint is also on UND. Shore had a goal and an assist today and was 1st star. Brittain was 3rd star. John Lee is also on Denver. Ryan Watson and Western Michigan also won their game today against Michigan so they will advance to the CCHA championship game tomorrow against Miami.

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