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03-20-2011, 05:17 PM
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if carter scored the goal in overtime in game 7 of the scf people would still find a way to call him lazy, unemotional or whatever.

he's the number one most under appreciated flyer, second being boucher imo.
Boucher is overappreciated if anything. He gets a personalized ovation every time he makes a save.

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So now Carter not only just scores in blowouts, he also only scores game winning goals against weaker teams.

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So now Carter not only just scores in blowouts, he also only scores game winning goals against weaker teams.
In the first period.

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Boucher is overappreciated if anything. He gets a personalized ovation every time he makes a save.
...ah, yeah, that happens with pretty much everyone who has a name that it makes sense with. It also dates back to his rookie year.

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He just let Robidas skate by him to score a goal yesterday.
...the moment I watched that happen, I knew someone was going to bring it up.

It happens to everyone some time.

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Carter is terrible. He cannot play. Why did we draft him. He only scores in blowouts. Just because every other team in the league always try to trade for him just goes to show you what they know about hockey. I would move him for a six pack of beer and it can even be warm. :sarc asm:

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03-20-2011, 06:03 PM
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...the moment I watched that happen, I knew someone was going to bring it up.

It happens to everyone some time.
Yep, Carter's been playing well lately in the goal scoring department. I just hope he can keep it up. You know who has been playing terrible lately, Mike Richards. He doesn't skate hard to pucks and he took himself out of the play trying to make hits on the play where Bobrovsky made an outstanding pad save on Goligoski.

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Carter has recently gone through some awful ****, with him being sick, losing weight and the death of his grandfather and honestly, the way he's playing, he's making his grandfather proud. Carter has been playing like a man on a mission and I love it.

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if carter scored the goal in overtime in game 7 of the scf people would still find a way to call him lazy, unemotional or whatever.

he's the number one most under appreciated flyer, second being boucher imo.
Of course. Why would Carter have let the series go to 7 games?

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Yep, Carter's been playing well lately in the goal scoring department. I just hope he can keep it up. You know who has been playing terrible lately, Mike Richards. He doesn't skate hard to pucks and he took himself out of the play trying to make hits on the play where Bobrovsky made an outstanding pad save on Goligoski.
He had a nice goal last night and a three point night the game before. I don't think you know what you're looking at.

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if the flyers win the cup with carter on the team i guarantee that down the road he'll have his number retired and everyone who bashed him will talk about him with a glimmer in their eyes.

calling it.

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if the flyers win the cup with carter on the team i guarantee that down the road he'll have his number retired and everyone who bashed him will talk about him with a glimmer in their eyes.

calling it.
You're just saying that because he's got a legit shot to be the first Flyer in franchise history with 500 goals.

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03-20-2011, 06:28 PM
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You're just saying that because he's got a legit shot to be the first Flyer in franchise history with 500 goals.
exactly. he'll go down as one of the best in orange and black if we win the cup once or twice with him on the squad.

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Carter has been one of our best players for most of the season. Time for the gay "high and wide" comments to be put to rest.

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Carter has been one of our best players for most of the season. Time for the gay "high and wide" comments to be put to rest.
This is his third consecutive season as the teams best even strength forward.

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03-20-2011, 06:34 PM
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I have been critical of Carter, but I appreciate the guy.

He has plenty of fans. This is stupid.

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I have been critical of Carter, but I appreciate the guy.

He has plenty of fans. This is stupid.
but he also has plenty of haters.

but you know what they say; if you don't have any haters, you must be doing something wrong

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03-20-2011, 06:43 PM
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I wonder how many people are going to write articles saying how it's time for Flyers fans to appreciate Carter when he doesn't produce anything in the playoffs.

41 career playoff games:

12 goals 7 Assists -11 rating 7.4% shooting percentage averaging 18:29 TOI

Throw the regular season out the window. To me, this is the real Jeff Carter and until he proves otherwise, when it counts the most, in the playoffs, he will forever be classified as an underachiever in my book.

Now, before I get all kinds of hate thrown my way, I hope he goes out and carries us to a Stanley Cup this year. So please, don't get it twisted. I do not hate Jeff Carter. I want Jeff Carter to succeed. It's just that for me, he's got to do it in the playoffs.

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03-20-2011, 06:49 PM
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I know, I always trust small sample sizes over large ones.

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03-20-2011, 06:50 PM
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I know, I always trust small sample sizes over large ones.
In this case the small sample sizes are much more important than the larger ones.

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In this case the small sample sizes are much more important than the larger ones.
No they're not, you just imbue them with greater importance which leads to misguided statistical analysis.

Carter has been hurt (or a struggling rookie) for over half his playoff games. Imagine if you took 40 random games from his career... some from his rookie year, and 50% of him playing hurt... you think he'd have good numbers in those games?

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In this case the small sample sizes are much more important than the larger ones.
For the team, sure. For understanding the skill of a player, no.

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No they're not, you just imbue them with greater importance which leads to misguided statistical analysis.
Oh I see the regular season is more important than the playoffs.

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Oh I see the regular season is more important than the playoffs.
Not every playoff is the same. Carter could step into the shoes that Briere was in last season's playoffs.

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Oh I see the regular season is more important than the playoffs.
Neither is more important than the other... in each case you are talking about hockey games being played under the same exact rules in the same exact league. You need to stop assuming one set of data is "more important" than the other, that's the first poor assumption you're making if you're going to try and engage in a statistical analysis.

So, save the face palm, you're ignorantly using statistical information to make a faulty point.

Of course, I bet you hated Gagne in the playoffs, too.

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