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03-22-2011, 07:34 AM
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Patrick Wiercioch

According to Allen Panzieri Patrick Wiercioch has been called up and is going to make his nhl debut today.

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03-22-2011, 07:37 AM
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According to Allen Panzieri Patrick Wiercioch has been called up and is going to make his nhl debut today.
So they DID call up Bingo's worst D-Man

I had hopes for this kid, but he hsa been brutal (from what I hear).. hopefully he turns it around

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So they DID call up Bingo's worst D-Man

I had hopes for this kid, but he hsa been brutal (from what I hear).. hopefully he turns it around
He has progressed from the start of the season...somewhat.

He's got on the PP recently and made some things happen, his D has been mediocre. He also looks really odd skating, think beanpole on skates.

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This will be very interesting. I suspect he'll get ~10-12 minutes with 2nd unit PP time after Karlsson and Kuba.

I do suspect him to get torched a few times though. Hopefully he learns from his errors ala Karlsson and doesn't get crushed by them ala Elliott.

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Well this won't hurt Bingo and it won't hurt us so smart move. It will also give Wiercioch a taste of the NHL and give him an idea of where he needs to get to play in this league.

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Sweet. Can't wait to see him play.

He's been kinda forgotten with our othe bluchip prospect developing so well

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Sweet. Can't wait to see him play.

He's been kinda forgotten with our othe bluchip prospect developing so well
Never really considered Wiercioch a bluechip, he's definitely a boom/bust prospect with a ton of offensive upside. He'll be a project for sure, but with Cowen, Karlsson and Rundblad all on the fast track, I actually think it will be good for his development to spend 2 or 3 seasons in the AHL.

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Nice. Hopefully we get to see PW and EK work the PP together at some point.

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Despite the slow start he's had to his pro career, he's still a key prospect for us. We have some high end defensive prospects who come advertised as being one-dimensional (Karlsson and Runblad on the offensive side and Cowen and Gryba on the defensive side... not that Gryba should be considered high-end). Weircioch is our only prospect who was advertised as a complete player.

It will be nice to see him develop. Sounds like a hig carb, heavy weight-lifting summer will go a long way for him.

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Great! Looking forward to seeing him play!

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Despite the slow start he's had to his pro career, he's still a key prospect for us. We have some high end defensive prospects who come advertised as being one-dimensional (Karlsson and Runblad on the offensive side and Cowen and Gryba on the defensive side... not that Gryba should be considered high-end). Weircioch is our only prospect who was advertised as a complete player.

It will be nice to see him develop. Sounds like a hig carb, heavy weight-lifting summer will go a long way for him.
I think think that Weir has the highest top end ceiling of all our defensive prospects.

But so far, he has lived up to every scouting report in that he's really raw and unpolished, and an extreme boom-bust player.

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I think think that Weir has the highest top end ceiling of all our defensive prospects.

But so far, he has lived up to every scouting report in that he's really raw and unpolished, and an extreme boom-bust player.
I don't think so. Rundblad is a better prospect offensively than Weircioch. Weiricioch is good - but if he hits his potential he's a top 4 blueliner who can skate and move the puck. He has great size and vision. Could definitely be a big time asset for us. Rundblad is gifted though; it's an extremely small list of players who score 50 points in the SEL from the blue line at any age.

Karlsson isn't really a prospect, but I'd rate Karlsson far ahead too.

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In an interview with KK about a month ago, talking about Wiercioch, he said he didn't know why there was so much hype around him or where it came from.

He wasn't saying he doesn't have potential, but that people were obviously getting ahead of things.

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In an interview with KK about a month ago, talking about Wiercioch, he said he didn't know why there was so much hype around him or where it came from.
He wasn't saying he doesn't have potential, but that people were obviously getting ahead of things.

It fell to coach Kurt Kleinendorst to convince Wiercioch that he wasn’t there yet, but would be soon if he was willing to do the work.

“I think that the early expectations that were placed on him were a little bit unfair,” Kleinendorst said. “I just feel like, once I got to know Patty a little bit, it wasn’t really fair. I saw what it had done to him. It built him up and he thought he was so close.”

Since then, the coach said, Wiercioch has delivered on and off the ice.

“The challenge was to be the best player you can be at the rink and away from the rink, that you make good choices in what you do socially and how you take care of yourself — view your body as your temple so to speak,” Kleinendorst said.

“You come in early every day, stay late every day and whatever we’re selling, you’re buying. He has done everything asked.”



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Ive heard any number of times that few rookies have ever come into a Sens camp (last year and to a lesser extent this year) with such an enormously high opinion of himself.
Apparently the guys simply ripped him to shreds and spared no expense in tearing him down to size. It had a huge impact on him.

It seems as though the tough "love" is paying off.

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i agree with KK- i've never understood why there is so much hype around this kid. i just don't see it. he's big and lanky and it looks like he might be a good skater for his size, but i just kinda laugh when i hear the talk about how huge his potential is and how he might even be "our best prospect".

i don't think the kid is a lock to make the NHL, forget about him being our "best prospect". i will be watching him closely tonight.

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i agree with KK- i've never understood why there is so much hype around this kid. i just don't see it. he's big and lanky and it looks like he might be a good skater for his size, but i just kinda laugh when i hear the talk about how huge his potential is and how he might even be "our best prospect".

i don't think the kid is a lock to make the NHL, forget about him being our "best prospect". i will be watching him closely tonight.
When you watch him play, you see sparks of what he could be. A great skater, good instincts, good vision, good hands and a solid shot selection to go with great size. Look at Cowen at 6'5 235, he's miles ahead in development and still has coordination issues but is definitely NHL ready. Wiercioch is barely 200 (is he even there yet?) and has so much room to grow. His base skill set is great for moving the puck but he has the natural gift of size that he can learn to leverage. Basically, he's got all the tools to be elite but they are not even close to being a full package yet. That's why he might end up being out best defenseman but at the same time, he might never make it to the NHL. Right now, I'd peg his projection at something like Kuba but he could go anywhere from borderline NHLer to Mike Green to Scott Niedermayer; which is why he's so intriguing.

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maybe im out on an island myself on this but i really thought in a couple of the games in preseason(?) he lookedquite good, and was waaay smooth with the puck.
Big stride, smooth hands - fankly i though he looked better than Cowen in some of what i saw.

i can see where people feel he show a lot of promise.

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i agree with KK- i've never understood why there is so much hype around this kid. ....
Plain and simple, he averaged a ppg as an 18 year old freshman d-man in the NCAA. It's an impressive stat line, and people extrapolated from that.

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i don't think the kid is a lock to make the NHL, forget about him being our "best prospect". i will be watching him closely tonight.
Agree, he is not a lock. I actually think Gryba is more likely to have a long NHL career than Wiercioch.

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i agree with KK- i've never understood why there is so much hype around this kid. i just don't see it. he's big and lanky and it looks like he might be a good skater for his size, but i just kinda laugh when i hear the talk about how huge his potential is and how he might even be "our best prospect".

i don't think the kid is a lock to make the NHL, forget about him being our "best prospect". i will be watching him closely tonight.
Same here. Classic case of fans and media over-hyping a player and in turn hindering his development based on expectations.

No chance of him being in the NHL as a regular anytime soon. I was more stoked about Gryba, but he too didn't have the best season, although they both are making improvements as of late.

Still looking forward to seeing him play with the rest of the boys. But good lord man, put on some size!! He's got the frame of a rack of chips.

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i agree with KK- i've never understood why there is so much hype around this kid. i just don't see it. he's big and lanky and it looks like he might be a good skater for his size, but i just kinda laugh when i hear the talk about how huge his potential is and how he might even be "our best prospect".

i don't think the kid is a lock to make the NHL, forget about him being our "best prospect". i will be watching him closely tonight.
He's not our best prospect. The best prospects are much closer and more assured of making the NHL then Weir.

However, if you watch the guy, you see all the tools that give him an intriguing upside. He has the frame to be a dominant physical player in that he's 6-3, even if at the moment he's quite lacky and doesn't have the muscle to support playing at that height yet. But being that big, he skates and stickhandles as well as somone that's 5-9, and has all the offensive instincts you want in point producing defenseman. It's as if you put Rundblad's talent in Cowen's body. That's where Weir's ceiling could be.

That being said, he's a long way off, and could very well never put his defensive game together. Or he might never be able to put the muscle he needs on his frame to handle the NHL. That's why he's such a risk.

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The kid has shown flashes of brilliance in the pre-season so it'll be interesting to see how he does tonight.

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Same here. Classic case of fans and media over-hyping a player and in turn hindering his development based on expectations.
Did the media really ever talk about him that much?

The fans I'll agree with you. In the offseason some were saying this guy was a darkhorse to making the big club this year yet he's been one of the worst d-men in Bingo. Last I heard was his game was more suited for the NHL than the AHL.

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He's not our best prospect. The best prospects are much closer and more assured of making the NHL then Weir.

However, if you watch the guy, you see all the tools that give him an intriguing upside. He has the frame to be a dominant physical player in that he's 6-3, even if at the moment he's quite lacky and doesn't have the muscle to support playing at that height yet. But being that big, he skates and stickhandles as well as somone that's 5-9, and has all the offensive instincts you want in point producing defenseman. It's as if you put Rundblad's talent in Cowen's body. That's where Weir's ceiling could be.

That being said, he's a long way off, and could very well never put his defensive game together. Or he might never be able to put the muscle he needs on his frame to handle the NHL. That's why he's such a risk.
If you put rundblad's talent in Cowen's body, you might have the best defenseman that ever played hockey. I don't think Wiercioch's ceiling is close to that.

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