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March 17: Conference call update (post #236); Pronger, hand surgery, out 3-4 weeks

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03-19-2011, 11:38 AM
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rookie's tend to suck in the playoffs

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Given the fact that you argue that offensive production is a young man's game (all the time), the implication that you think Briere's play-off stats would move in a direction other than to further support appel's point seems at least a little dishonest.
1) Rookie's and really young players tend to struggle with some consistency at the end of the year. See, JVR.

2) Scoring is a young man's game. The prime years are 23-26... and for bigger guys you might shift that a year or two more.

3) The majority of Briere's sample is confined to him as a veteran, established player... they tend to be less volatile.

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1) Rookie's and really young players tend to struggle with some consistency at the end of the year. See, JVR.

2) Scoring is a young man's game. The prime years are 23-26... and for bigger guys you might shift that a year or two more.

3) The majority of Briere's sample is confined to him as a veteran, established player... they tend to be less volatile.
Even more simply, Briere's career numbers pretty clearly show him as an outlier in that department.

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Even more simply, Briere's career numbers pretty clearly show him as an outlier in that department.
Well, not really. As noted above, his playoff production is pretty close to what he's done during the regular season in the years he's been putting up these numbers.

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Well, not really. As noted above, his playoff production is pretty close to what he's done during the regular season in the years he's been putting up these numbers.
Right, which would make his playoff production as low as it was in the regular season when he was young and not very good. He's the outlier in that he took a LONG time to figure it out and had his most productive seasons as an older guy.

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Right, which would make his playoff production as low as it was in the regular season when he was young and not very good. He's the outlier in that he took a LONG time to figure it out and had his most productive seasons as an older guy.
Briere was definitely a player that benefited greatly with the rule changes post-lockout, plus playing on a high-offensive Buffalo team.

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03-22-2011, 10:22 AM
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So with Shelley out, I thought there would be more people vocalizing their happiness.

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So with Shelley out, I thought there would be more people vocalizing their happiness.
well he was scratched last game anyway

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So with Shelley out, I thought there would be more people vocalizing their happiness.
It certainly plays Laviolette's hand going into the playoffs, and we get the fourth line closer to what we desire. We'll never know the Superstar Master Plan for playoffs 10-11.

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It certainly plays Laviolette's hand going into the playoffs, and we get the fourth line closer to what we desire. We'll never know the Superstar Master Plan for playoffs 10-11.
Our Ultimate lines would have been:

Shelley

Bob/Boucher

Shelley's minutes have only been so low through this season so he could be ready to singlehandedly maul the playoffs

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Our Ultimate lines would have been:

Shelley

Bob/Boucher

Shelley's minutes have only been so low through this season so he could be ready to singlehandedly maul the playoffs
Don't be ridiculous! Why would we need a goaltender when Shelley would have the puck 100% of the time either a) scoring or b) skating towards the opponent's zone to score?

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Pronger is practicing, no-contact but passing and shooting.

https://twitter.com/#!/DNFlyers

Seems ahead of schedule, maybe he'll get some games under his belt before the playoffs.

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Pronger is practicing, no-contact but passing and shooting.

https://twitter.com/#!/DNFlyers

Seems ahead of schedule, maybe he'll get some games under his belt before the playoffs.
Great news! Thanks for that, pain.

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Pronger is practicing, no-contact but passing and shooting.

https://twitter.com/#!/DNFlyers

Seems ahead of schedule, maybe he'll get some games under his belt before the playoffs.
They said he'd be able to skate and whatnot pretty soon after... and they always thought he'd be back in time for a few games, I think.

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They said he'd be able to skate and whatnot pretty soon after... and they always thought he'd be back in time for a few games, I think.
Skating soon after for sure but seems early to be shooting pucks.

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