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03-23-2011, 12:55 PM
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Giroux - prime of his career

In todays NHL, forwards are in their prime from ? Conventional wisdow says 27-32, I believe this is wrong. I say 23-30. Those are the years when you are likely to have your best seasons in the NHL. Are there examples of phenoms having career years at 21, 22 - yes.....but that is the Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby, Ovechkins of the list. There are also guys who produce well past 30, but again.....highly unlikely

Players in the NHL today in their prime are born from 1980-1988 (age 23-31). Guys born in 80 top 10 all time scoring (Vincent Lecavellier, Brad Richards, Henrik Sedin, Daniel Sedin, Simon Gagne, Henrik Zetterberg). Of the top only Gagne and Lecavellier are not what they once were. Players born in 1988 would include: Kane, Toews, Jordan Staal, Lucic, Giroux, and many others. All on the list would be considered "coming into their prime". Likely their best years are coming in the next 5 years.

So Giroux is just now entering his prime at 23. How long do you believe he will be at the top of his game, assuming he remains healthy. I believe he has a good 7+ years in his prime. With players workout routines and diets, I can't see any reason why Giroux at 29 would be less than Giroux at 23.

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03-23-2011, 01:01 PM
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In todays NHL, forwards are in their prime from ? Conventional wisdow says 27-32, I believe this is wrong. I say 23-30. Those are the years when you are likely to have your best seasons in the NHL. Are there examples of phenoms having career years at 21, 22 - yes.....but that is the Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby, Ovechkins of the list. There are also guys who produce well past 30, but again.....highly unlikely

Players in the NHL today in their prime are born from 1980-1988 (age 23-31). Guys born in 80 top 10 all time scoring (Vincent Lecavellier, Brad Richards, Henrik Sedin, Daniel Sedin, Simon Gagne, Henrik Zetterberg). Of the top only Gagne and Lecavellier are not what they once were. Players born in 1988 would include: Kane, Toews, Jordan Staal, Lucic, Giroux, and many others. All on the list would be considered "coming into their prime". Likely their best years are coming in the next 5 years.

So Giroux is just now entering his prime at 23. How long do you believe he will be at the top of his game, assuming he remains healthy. I believe he has a good 7+ years in his prime. With players workout routines and diets, I can't see any reason why Giroux at 29 would be less than Giroux at 23.


I believe Giroux will be in his prime for the next 5-7 seasons and hopefully he will be productive until the end of his career here.

That being said, why are we worried about this?

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I believe Giroux will be in his prime for the next 5-7 seasons and hopefully he will be productive until the end of his career here.

That being said, why are we worried about this?
It was a "discussion" in another thread I was asked to move to its own thread. HOwever, interesting question. The more I look at the data, the more interesting it gets.

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In before Jester dooks all over this and the lock.

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in before the gayass insults of Jeff Carter begin.

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in before the gayass insults of Jeff Carter begin.
Irony=The Jeff Carter thread was closed due to being off topic. Every thread goes Jeff Carter within page 1, and his thread goes off topic.....who knew a thread of Jeff Carter would go off topic.

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in before the gayass insults of Jeff Carter begin.
Jeff Carter only scores in blowouts.

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Irony=The Jeff Carter thread was closed due to being off topic. Every thread goes Jeff Carter within page 1, and his thread goes off topic.....who knew a thread of Jeff Carter would go off topic.
No I wasnt trying to knock it off topic, but I figured it wouldnt be long before the typical noobs(you know who you are) will come in here and run their mouth.
Anyway, I am not worried how long Giroux will be in the prime of his career. i would just rather enjoy how he is playing for us now then think of what type of player he will be for us in 2017.

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Stupid Homer for signing Giroux to the three-year-contract, now that Giroux is past his prime already.













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Giroux will have the best years of his career somewhere between age 21 and 35, I would say

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Giroux will have the best years of his career somewhere between age 21 and 35, I would say


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Giroux will have the best years of his career somewhere between age 21 and 35, I would say
Joe Sakic had a great year at 37. Selanne at 40. We need to discuss this further

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Jeff Carter only scores in blowouts.

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I was thinking of how Carter is the new Joe Thornton, but sure - yours works.

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Joe Sakic had a great year at 37. Selanne at 40. We need to discuss this further
My mom always told me going on the basis of anomalies is probably the best way to go -- I mean, if it's happened a few times, why can't it work every time?

Actually, she didn't tell me that. Because it's stupid.

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My mom always told me going on the basis of anomalies is probably the best way to go -- I mean, if it's happened a few times, why can't it work every time?

Actually, she didn't tell me that. Because it's stupid.

These threads must be what the Lifetime Movie Network is to women. So dumb, so violent towards brain cells, but so effective at luring people in.
Lol I love thist post!

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Joe Sakic had a great year at 37. Selanne at 40. We need to discuss this further
Joe Sakic also had to retire because he hurt his back shoveling/snowblowing.

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Joe Sakic also had to retire because he hurt his back shoveling/snowblowing.

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Joe Sakic also had to retire because he hurt his back shoveling/snowblowing.
He actually damaged tendons in his wrist trying to remove a jam in the snowblower. The injury required surgery.





This thread might die an early death. Try to stay on topic, kids.

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Joe Sakic had a great year at 37. Selanne at 40. We need to discuss this further
Sakic and Selanne surefire HHOFers. I love Giroux but I am not ready to compare him to people of that caliber

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Sakic and Selanne surefire HHOFers. I love Giroux but I am not ready to compare him to people of that caliber
OMG - You guys thought I was serious? Your post was that Giroux's best year would be from 21-35. I said Sakic 37 Selanne 40 as a joke. Obviously, there is a 99.9999% chance that Girouxs best year will be within your range.

Wow. No more sarcasm for me. I thought the smily face would show I was joking. My bad.

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My mom always told me going on the basis of anomalies is probably the best way to go -- I mean, if it's happened a few times, why can't it work every time?

Actually, she didn't tell me that. Because it's stupid.

These threads must be what the Lifetime Movie Network is to women. So dumb, so violent towards brain cells, but so effective at luring people in.
It was a J-O-K-E!!! My bad, thought saying 21-35 was not a big enough range for Giroux's best year would have indicated sarcasm, since it is so obviously false. My bad.

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Giroux will have the best years of his career somewhere between age 21 and 35, I would say
Corrected my response for clarity:

Joe Sakic had a great year at 37. Selanne at 40. We need to discuss this further :s arcasm:

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the guy is still on his ELC and you're worrying about this now?

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Honestly, I think this is just the start of things to come for him. I can see him pulling 80+ points next season and possibly for a few seasons more too. He has pretty much everything to become great.

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Sakic and Selanne surefire HHOFers. I love Giroux but I am not ready to compare him to people of that caliber
Those two are definite elites and future HOFs. Selanne... there is literally no stopping this guy. I could see him becoming as old as Chelios and still do awesome.

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the guy is still on his ELC and you're worrying about this now?
No worry - just, how long do you see him in his prime? It was a debate in another thread. One person thinks he is "not young" I contend he is just now entering his prime and should stay there for another 7 years at least.

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