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03-28-2011, 10:34 AM
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Gawd! Blonde moment. LOL Sorry guys. Thanks for being so kind. I'll just go back to sleep now....

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03-28-2011, 10:41 AM
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Well i hope he's strong on his skates....5'8 175 makes Russell look big

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03-28-2011, 10:55 AM
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I hope he turns out to be Marty St. Louis v.2.0. Pretty much exactly the same size and St. Louis was undrafted. A lot of the intangibles that Atkinson has, St. Louis had at the same time as well.

This of course would be a best case scenario, but that's who I keep thinking of when I see him play.

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03-28-2011, 11:32 AM
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03-28-2011, 11:47 AM
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Too small
Says the one with the boomer avatar

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03-28-2011, 12:38 PM
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I don't care how big he is or isn't the bottom line is the dude knows how to score goals, something this team sorely lacks. Daniel Briere, Theo Fleury, Martin St. Louis, Nathan Gerbe, Brian Gionta just to name a few have all succeeded despite being vertically challenged. I watched the NCAA title game last year between BC and Wisconsin. Wisconsin's defensemen were all NHL size, not one under six feet, he abused them for two goals and was the best player on the ice. Personally I can't wait to see him play in the bigs.

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03-28-2011, 12:50 PM
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Too small
Calvert...................5,9 164
Atkinson.................5,9 165

Jared Spurgeon........5,9 185

do you still think he is too small?

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03-28-2011, 01:11 PM
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I don't care how big he is or isn't the bottom line is the dude knows how to score goals, something this team sorely lacks. Daniel Briere, Theo Fleury, Martin St. Louis, Nathan Gerbe, Brian Gionta just to name a few have all succeeded despite being vertically challenged. I watched the NCAA title game last year between BC and Wisconsin. Wisconsin's defensemen were all NHL size, not one under six feet, he abused them for two goals and was the best player on the ice. Personally I can't wait to see him play in the bigs.
I'll believe it when he does that against NHLers...Russell was a scoring dynamo as a kid as well. Calvert's been a nice couple weeks story, when its done year in and year out, i'll be a believer

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03-28-2011, 01:15 PM
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Calvert...................5,9 164
Atkinson.................5,9 165

Jared Spurgeon........5,9 185

do you still think he is too small?
who knows. who cares. height & weight is so poorly reported. I'll look in camp. I've seen a couple of reports about his size impacting his draft position.

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who knows. who cares. height & weight is so poorly reported. I'll look in camp. I've seen a couple of reports about his size impacting his draft position.
And not only him. If Calvert would be higher he would be drafted in the second, maybe in the end of the first round.

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03-28-2011, 01:54 PM
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who knows. who cares. height & weight is so poorly reported. I'll look in camp. I've seen a couple of reports about his size impacting his draft position.
Hard to say how big any of these guys really are until they're seen in person and out of uniform. Size, though, isn't the determining factor as much as strength. Height, in particular, plays a very slight role in hockey success when compared with physical toughness. Bulk can help, in some instances, but many players, particularly scorers, have not been especially big. We've seen plenty of guys who'd pass the "look test," as Coop used to say, who couldn't play a lick! I won't rule out Atkinson until he's had a chance to see for himself how he matches up with NHL talent.

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I won't rule out Atkinson until he's had a chance to see for himself how he matches up with NHL talent.
Agree. Not ruling anyone out.

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Here's the quote from Reed:

"Because he was signed after the NHL trade deadline, Atkinson is ineligible to play in the NHL this season. His contract, which begins on July 1, is a two-way deal."

I can't vouch for it's accuracy, but that's his take.
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think this is right. As mentioned earlier, he has to be signed to a 2-year contract due to his age. If he played for the CBJ this year, it would burn a year off his contract making him an RFA after next year.

So, the Jackets won't do that because they want him on a 2 year ELC, not burn a year on meaningless games. That's a bit different than it being an NHL rule, but the end result is the same - we won't see him in C-bus this year.

Didn't have time to search the CBA to confirm this, but I'm basing it on a recent article about Merrimack College's Stephane Da Costa by Elliotte Friedman. It can be found here: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/ellio...-with-nhl.html

Elliotte (who I trust more than AP or TR on these matters) talks about how he can still play this year but it would burn a year off his contract.


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Hes on twitter if anyone wants to follow him @CamAtkinson13

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03-28-2011, 09:14 PM
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Well i hope he's strong on his skates....5'8 175 makes Russell look big
I guess there's no way he can be an NFL QB then.

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IIRC, for 18-19 year olds, the contract is extended if the player plays less than 10 games in their first season.

No idea how this applies, or if, to those older than that.

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03-29-2011, 10:56 AM
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Springfield is in desperate need of some offensive talent. Let's hope Atkinson can provide a bit of a spark to make the remaining games entertaining to watch, plus it will provide him with some knowledge about how strong the players are in the AHL/NHL for off season workouts. Good luck Cam!

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03-29-2011, 03:29 PM
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Kid is definitely filled out like Calvert.

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03-29-2011, 04:54 PM
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Kid is definitely filled out like Calvert.
Damn that's impressive, I deadlift 100 pounds less than him and I thought I was doing good.

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03-29-2011, 09:52 PM
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The people who are simply saying "too small" need to get with the times.

Others who have mentioned Martin St. Louis, Brian Gionta and Nathan Gerbe are on the right track.

I am a BC season ticket holder and think I have a decent eye for talent. There was no doubt in my mind that Gionta and Gerbe could make it at the next level. With Cam, there is some doubt. What separates Gerbe is he's a little faster than Cam, better at making something happen by himself and is not afraid to mix it up.

Cam is obviously fast with a great skill level and compete level. He's just a fantastic goal scorer--in every area. He knows where to be and where to go.

I personally don't see Cam making it at the NHL level because he's not on the level of Nathan Gerbe IMO. That being said, I hope he proves me wrong and wish him nothing but the best with you guys.

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03-30-2011, 06:03 AM
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Its not only about size, but his size AND being a Jacket For every Gionta and St Louis, theres probably 50 that dont make it. Its easy to name the ones who did make it because theres only a handful of them. Im certainly well aware that size doesnt mean you cant make it in the NHL, but you better have some SERIOUS skill because the lack of size makes it more of an uphill battle.

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Its not only about size, but his size AND being a Jacket For every Gionta and St Louis, theres probably 50 that dont make it. Its easy to name the ones who did make it because theres only a handful of them. Im certainly well aware that size doesnt mean you cant make it in the NHL, but you better have some SERIOUS skill because the lack of size makes it more of an uphill battle.
Completely agree--and I actually pointed out that I don't think Cam will make it in the NHL because he doesn't have the grit of a Gionta/Gerbe. Put Cam with a true playmaking center and he will score goals--hope at the NHL level.

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I think with the focus on head shots and player safety, more and more smaller players will make it in the NHL.

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In his pro debut, Cam had the gamewinning goal and an assist and was named the #1 star.

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