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04-05-2011, 01:28 PM
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Leighton on this team isn't the worst thing ever.

The risk, however, is massive... and, therefore, this move is yet another egregiously stupid move by Holmgren. He's banking on it being late enough in the year that no one will claim him (this ignores that Leighton is an appealingly cheap backup option for next year at no risk). It needs to be remembered: This team already has a salary cap problem next year due to committed money and the impending bonuses of Bob and JVR adding a bit to that.

I have no problem with them deciding that Leighton is a decent enough option to be the backup with Bob next year, but this is *ing idiotic given the potentially massive downside for next year's roster (you can forget about Leino).

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04-05-2011, 01:32 PM
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I don't get how Holmgren can make so many solid moves and then go and do something stupid like this again. Doesn't this guy learn from his ****ing mistakes?

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04-05-2011, 01:32 PM
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Nothing good can come from this, it just puts doubt in Bob/Boosh's minds.

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04-05-2011, 01:34 PM
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Nothing good can come from this, it just puts doubt in Bob/Boosh's minds.
Isn't that the Philly way? Somehow ensure the goaltenders are either self-doubting or to blame for all LOSSES.

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04-05-2011, 01:37 PM
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Isn't that the Philly way? Somehow ensure the goaltenders are either self-doubting or to blame for all LOSSES.
Doesn't he even talk to anyone before making these decisions? Please tell me atleast one person inside the front office feels that this is a stupid decision.

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I shudder to imagine what happens if Leighton's first NHL game in 4 or 5 months is in the playoffs.

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One reason I'm glad this happened, is so I can re-hash these from behindthenet:

http://www.behindthenethockey.com/20...signs-with-phi

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I guess it pays to be a bit of a playoff hero. Leighton, he of the save career save percentage as Vesa Toskala, just got a contract about three times bigger than players with similar talent. Here are rankings of goaltender save percentage over the last ten years; Leighton is 72nd. Among 51 goaltenders who were active in 2009-10, he's 47th.

Basically, goalies with Leighton's established talent level make $500k a year. Philly overpaid for no good reason.
http://www.behindthenethockey.com/20...-me-scratching

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With those underperforming contracts, the Flyers essentially put themselves in the hole in the neighborhood of $5M in 2010-11. They could have bought 2+ wins on the free agent market with that money. Why they chose to throw it down a sinkhole is beyond me.

http://www.behindthenethockey.com/20...chael-leighton

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Was there a more predictably bad signing than Michael Leighton for two years and $3.1M? It took barely six months to punt that one. Let this be a lesson to all general managers out there: when a player has a terrible track record over six seasons, like Michael Leighton's sub-replacement .902 save percentage, DON'T REWARD A SMALL AMOUNT OF GOOD RECENT PERFORMANCE WITH A BIG CONTRACT!

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I shudder to imagine what happens if Leighton's first NHL game in 4 or 5 months is in the playoffs.
Leighton is to Laviollette as Jones is to Stevens.

I don't see many other explanations. Unless they are thinking we are going to play Boston again at some point which was the only team he seemed to have the number for last year.

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I shudder to imagine what happens if Leighton's first NHL game in 4 or 5 months is in the playoffs.
I gotta believe this will not happen. If he clears, he is going to start before the playoffs just to get a game in at least. That would be absurd for Lavy/Homer/Snider/any one else involved to call him up and make him ride the pine then start him in the playoffs.

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I shudder to imagine what happens if Leighton's first NHL game in 4 or 5 months is in the playoffs.
To add to my post, there's also the risk of him getting claimed.

There is nothing good about this.

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Leighton is to Laviollette as Jones is to Stevens.

I don't see many other explanations. Unless they are thinking we are going to play Boston again at some point which was the only team he seemed to have the number for last year.
I wouldn't go that far. If Laviolette was a die-hard for Leighton as Stevens was to Jones, Leighton would have had more than one game to get back.

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I gotta believe this will not happen. If he clears, he is going to start before the playoffs just to get a game in at least. That would be absurd for Lavy/Homer/Snider/any one else involved to call him up and make him ride the pine then start him in the playoffs.
Ah, one would have to crunch the numbers but do not think they are capable of recalling Leighton during the season. Once the cap is gone in the playoffs, he definitely can come up.

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Also I'm not sure if the Rangers can claim him...I think they are maxed on contracts (at least by my count on CapGeek, which could very easily be wrong).

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I gotta believe this will not happen. If he clears, he is going to start before the playoffs just to get a game in at least. That would be absurd for Lavy/Homer/Snider/any one else involved to call him up and make him ride the pine then start him in the playoffs.
I hope not. We need every point we can get right now.

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Ah, one would have to crunch the numbers but do not think they are capable of recalling Leighton during the season. Once the cap is gone in the playoffs, he definitely can come up.
Wow. That would be awful then. I'm a big Leighton fan, but I don't want anyone who hasn't played in the NHL in a long ass time coming in and being a playoff starter. If there's an injury, that's a different story, but if they are bringing him up to replace Bob or Boosh, that really worries me.

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04-05-2011, 01:45 PM
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I can't wait til Holmgren has to explain this one tomorrow after Leighton is claimed. Why wouldn't a team claim him for a backup next year? It puts us in a worse spot cap wise than we already were and he's a decent backup for 800k.

He makes plenty of good moves but seriously...

Jones on re-entry
Shelley for 3 ****ing years at 1.1
Now Leighton, when even if he does clear, won't even be playing.

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04-05-2011, 01:46 PM
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Is there any logic behind this at all, other than to screw with the heads of Boosh/Bob? How is this good at all

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Holmgren has made clear in the past that he doesn't feel waivers is any deterrent to roster moves. If someone has to go on waivers (or re-entry waivers), he doesn't care.

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Today's Daily News:



Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/f...#ixzz1IfeEN4mc

Edit: this has been placed in the OP, too.
That explanation (which is the author's not Holmgren's I think?) makes no sense. Why not just wait till the playoffs start and have him as a black ace? What does placing him in the roster have to do with anything?

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Did anyone really not see this coming? We all know how Holmgren handles the cap, and re-entry.

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04-05-2011, 01:49 PM
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The Flyers have lived without Leighton all season, at half price, based on feedback around the NHL, he's likely getting claimed on re-entry.
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I want to see Homer fans somehow spin this into a good move.

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That explanation (which is the author's not Holmgren's I think?) makes no sense. Why not just wait till the playoffs start and have him as a black ace? What does placing him in the roster have to do with anything?
I noticed the author said "when" and not "if" in describing the scenario of an injury.

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I can see it now.....

Twitter release: Leighton claimed

Holmgren: "It is what it is"....



Leighton is like a recurring nightmare....if he plays then I know we aren't going far.

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I just see this as another Homer feeling sry for the guy. He goes and gets 2 shutouts in a row, and Homer now feels like he deserves a chance to play with another team for the last few games. I wouldnt be surprised if Homer knows someone will claim him like he knew with Jones

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Seriously what are we doing? This was a signing that never made sense from day one anyway.

Are they hoping he gets claimed? I can't imagine they actually would even think of playing him.....this is the stupidest thing I've seen in a long time.

No outcome of this will make any sense in any way shape or form.

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