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04-05-2011, 06:53 PM
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04-05-2011, 07:10 PM
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I'm assuming if the claiming team waives him next year and sends him to the minors. I'm not 100% sure if that's what could happen, if a team who claims him assigns him to the minors, him being off both that team's cap and the Flyers cap since he would be in the minors, but it would make sense.

The Sabres won't claim Leighton. We don't need him. He can't play this year for us and we have Enroth as our backup next year once Lalime retires. The only reason we claim him is to keep the Flyers from using him against us if we play them in the playoffs, and that isn't something I see Darcy doing.
Who fills the hole left in Portland? Leighton really wouldn't be a bad pickup for Buffalo if you think about it...
a) Capable starter to push Ryan & Jhonas right out of the gates next year.
b) Dirt Cheap
c) Would be an excellent asset to platoon with Leggio in Portland or replace him if he doesn't re-sign (since I'm not sure Eno or Knapp are ready to start there yet). Not to mention Miller always gets hurt for 10-12 games a year. Would be good to have an NHLer to backup Enroth or vice versa in that situation.

Come to think of it - I would claim Kennedy too if I were Darcy... Cheap talent - there will certainly be holes to fight for in Buffalo next year. I'm sure Tim has learned not to bite (or arbitrate) the hand that feeds, maybe give him another shot!


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04-05-2011, 09:20 PM
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Buffalo grabs Kennedy to make up for the stupid decision to buy him out now that the organization actually has money, that is unless Regier is dumb.
FLA must think he stinks cause why both putting him on waivers now

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04-05-2011, 11:14 PM
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FLA must think he stinks cause why both putting him on waivers now
No, giving him a chance to make the team, though, he was invisible in his short time here.

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04-05-2011, 11:19 PM
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I don't get why all Sabres fans seem to be so pissy about Kennedy.

His qualifying offer was a one-way contract worth $698,500.
That means that it doesn't matter what he wanted; his qualifying offer was a one-way and if the Sabres wanted to keep him, that's what they had to offer.
They did so and he rejected the offer because it was the absolute minimum.
He had some leverage because he had a very good rookie year in Portland and a decent rookie NHL season, so he filed for salary arbitration.
The arbitrator awarded him a much better $1m contract, which the Sabres had to accept because it was less than $1.6m.

So, the Sabres created the mess themselves.
If they didn't feel that he was worthy of a one-way contract and just cared about flexibility, then they shouldn't have qualified him.
Instead, they qualified him and tried to get him to sign a two-way contract even though they had just offered him a one-way.
Unless Darcy is incredibly stupid, he was aware that most likely any award Kennedy received in arbitration would be less than $1.6m and therefore the Sabres would have to accept it.
He was also likely aware of the fact that it would be a one-way contract.
Therefore, they should have simply never qualified Kennedy if they didn't think he was worthy of a one-way contract because that was what he was likely to receive.
The following are the possible outcomes:
a.) he accepts his qualifying offer; he is on a one-way contract
b.) he rejects his qualifying offer and files for arbitration; any award will be a one-way contract
c.) he rejects his qualifying offer and signs an offer sheet; one-way contract
d.) he rejects his qualifying offer and instead signs a lesser two-way contract (which is stupid for him and therefore unlikely)
e.) he is not qualified and becomes an unrestricted free agent, allowing him to sign any contract

I really hope they decided to use the $666,666 they saved by buying out Kennedy on a lawyer to explain the CBA to Darcy.

As for your statement about waivers: it has nothing to do with the quality of a player.
Any movement between the AHL and NHL for him is subject to waivers.
He signed a one-way deal with the Rangers, a team that has a bunch of options at C/LW.
The Rangers chose veteran Todd White who had 99 points over the past two seasons instead of third year pro Kennedy, which is really a no brainer.
He was assigned to the AHL and had to clear re-entry waivers to return to the NHL because his contract was a one-way contract and he was subject to regular waivers already (because of his signing age, he was waiver exempt for three years or 70 games).
He played 85 NHL games on his entry-level contract which expired last year, so he will always be subject to at least regular waivers and is subject to re-entry waivers this year because of his one-way contract.

You didn't see him recalled by the Rangers this year because they didn't want to end up on the hook for half of his contract and end up with unusable cap space.
As soon as he was traded to Florida at the trade deadline, re-entry waivers became useless because he has a one year contract and any team that claimed him after the trade deadline wouldn't be able to use him (the one year contract part is important here because it wouldn't become an Avery situation where the team is on the hook for multiple years).
Florida isn't concerned about him being claimed and therefore being unavailable during the regular season or playoffs because they are not fighting for or making the playoffs, making it a no-risk situation.

I fail to see how him getting a one-way contract from a team and playing in enough games to become subject to waivers somehow validates getting rid of him as it's simply a technical matter.
Waivers have nothing to do with the quality of a player, they are just part of the CBA.
Holy overthink Batman.

Ok, so I got some of the CBA stuff mixed up.

I'm not pissy about Kennedy, I'm just sick and tired of fans screaming and whining that letting Kennedy go was stupid and a terrible move and an insult, when it is doubtful he would have been a key contributor on our team. And that we should claim him to somehow "Make up for cutting him" is just freakin ridiculous.

And I'm not implying waivers have something to do with the players quality, or I don't mean to. It's just annoying as hell that people think it was such a big mistake that we let him go when he's already been deemed not good enough to make the Rangers roster out of camp and the Panthers don't really care if they lose him.

So I guess I'm annoyed at the overvaluing of Kennedy, despite not knowing the CBA inside and out.

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04-05-2011, 11:42 PM
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i'd love for Chicago to take a chance on Leighton

at 775k next year, you probably wont' get a more experienced goalie for cheaper
and gives a little insurance if you can't sign crawford



assuming that crawford signs at around 2.2 or something
you can have both goalies under 3.. not too too bad i'd say
Did you watch Leighton blow in finals?

He is still the same flawed goalie he was with Hawks. One suprise run doesn't make him an NHL netminder

We have gone into last 2 years with horrible goalies in Huet and Turco. Lets go into next year with Crawford and Salak. No more wastes of roster space in net

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04-06-2011, 06:06 AM
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Backup Shmackup - He WILL be the Avs starting goaltender.

Heh.
Leighton for 11/12 = Anderson of 09/10 season
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FLA must think he stinks cause why both putting him on waivers now
Yeah but FLA thought that Grabner stunk...or something

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Yeah but FLA thought that Grabner stunk...or something
right. it had nothing to do with grabner's attitude...

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04-06-2011, 09:50 AM
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I'd grab Leighton off waivers and have him sit in the stands... Anything to prevent what happened last spring

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I'd grab Leighton off waivers and have him sit in the stands... Anything to prevent what happened last spring
Leighton wasn't the reason you guys couldn't score

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Yeah but FLA thought that Grabner stunk...or something
Nope. Try again, Florida wanted him to play in Rochester.

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Leighton cleared according to the Flyers facebook page.

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“@TSNBobMcKenzie: PHI's Michael Leighton clears re-entry waivers.”

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Holmgren dodges a bullet.

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I knew it.

There will be a bunch of goaltenders on the UFA market. Some might even be signed for cheaper than 800K.

Leaving the Flyers stuck with 800K of dead cap space was tempting. But the Flyers will still need to bury some contracts in the minors (probably at least Leighton and Walker) to fit under the cap next season.


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I'm kind of shocked that Leighton got through waivers.

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I knew it.

There will be a bunch of goaltenders on the UFA market. Some might even be signed for cheaper than 800K.

Leaving the Flyers stuck with 800K of dead cap space was tempting. But the Flyers will still need to bury some contracts in the minors (probably at least Leighton and Walker) to fit under the cap next season.
not if we trade Versteeg

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I'm kind of shocked that Leighton got through waivers.
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Sources say Leighton requires extensive daily maintenance on his back. Because of that, pinpointing when he plays is not exact, but the team wants him to play in one of the final two regular-season games. The season ends Saturday at the Wells Fargo Center against the New York Islanders.

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Holmgren dodges a bullet.
LO A bullet? Really?

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neither will be claimed..
i told you guys...

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Kennedy cleared?

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LO A bullet? Really?
I think the bullet is the 800K of dead salary cap space on next year's cap rather than the lost of the aforementioned player. Just a thought.

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Kennedy cleared?
Yes, he's in tonight's lineup, 3rd line center.

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LO A bullet? Really?
It's a figure of speech.

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