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04-07-2011, 10:16 AM
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Well a Gordie Howe hat trick includes a fight so...
YES, I know this my good man, But big Mac is'nt really projected to be an offensive powerhouse

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Very true...Lots of players come out of Jrs as the toughest guy on the block, but upon reaching the pro level they might not even be the toughest guy on the line they play on. The thing is, in the past the AHL had tough guys but the better guys were at the NHL level. Noways, there is no shortage of enforcers at the AHL level, probably more than at the NHL level. McIlrath is going to be thrown right into the mix there. But hey, all these tough guys start somewhere. I look back at Eric Cairns because I think there are some similarities. Not sure what he did in Jrs, if he even did play Jrs, but at the AHL level Cairns tore it up. In the mid 90's Cairns spent two years at Bingo and punished people. No joke...after a while nobody wanted to fight the guy. He came to the Rangers highly touted as a tough guy and in his first 5 fights or so he beat his opponents pretty good. Then he met Craig Berube and Berube smoked him. He ended up losing a few more after than and was labeled as having a glass jaw. He was maybe 21 at the time. Rangers send him to the pack after a season and he refines his game. He was one of thier better defenders, and the Isles snatch him up. He goes to the Coliseum to become one of the most feared and best enforcers in the game at the time. He fought everyone and beat the elite at the trade, but he also became a decent defenseman. Jagr once said Cairns was the one guy he hated to play against because he knew every time he did he would take physical abuse.


Back to McIlrath...There is plenty of time to grow into the role for him though. The fighting will come, and he is already elite at that for his age group, but I am really hoping he can impose his will on opposing forwards like he did in Jrs. Hitting, and playing physical is an art, and a gift if you can do it without hurting your team by penalties and or taking yourself out of the play. But...the midset among fans and sometimes the organization itself is often "you are only as good as your last fight, your last hit, or your last game."

My point is if Mc is on the losing end of a tilt, or makes a bad play had a bad game etc, I hope that people don't write the guy off like they did with Cairns. Take him for what he is. A kid...A prospect, that needs time to learn the game at a faster level against bigger stronger opponents and develop into the guy this club wanted and still needs to this day. A physical menace on the blueline.
Lion that is one fantastic post. Really sums it up the kid is a animal but he is a kid let him grow into being a man.

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04-07-2011, 10:22 AM
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My hunch says that management is higher on Dylan than many fans are and wants him with the big club next year. Obviously that will only happen if he shows that he belongs, but there is a reason why he is here on an ATO so quickly. And really who could blame Sather and co. for feeling that way, given how quickly Stepan and McD adjusted to the pro game. I am not saying that Dylan is as good, but it is what it is. Good luck to him.
The reason he is here on an ATO is so the Rangers can get their hands on him and help continue teaching him at a higher level. I dont see him making the club next year but instead going back to the WHL and physically dominating there.

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Lion that is one fantastic post. Really sums it up the kid is a animal but he is a kid let him grow into being a man.
Thanks man! ...I'm excited to see what the future brings with him.

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V-tank and McIlrath paired together would be exactly like the bash brothers. V-tank is Fulton, a little smaller, huge shot. McIlrath is Portman, big guy, hits like a train, sticks up for teammates.

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Very true...Lots of players come out of Jrs as the toughest guy on the block, but upon reaching the pro level they might not even be the toughest guy on the line they play on. The thing is, in the past the AHL had tough guys but the better guys were at the NHL level. Noways, there is no shortage of enforcers at the AHL level, probably more than at the NHL level. McIlrath is going to be thrown right into the mix there. But hey, all these tough guys start somewhere. I look back at Eric Cairns because I think there are some similarities. Not sure what he did in Jrs, if he even did play Jrs, but at the AHL level Cairns tore it up. In the mid 90's Cairns spent two years at Bingo and punished people. No joke...after a while nobody wanted to fight the guy. He came to the Rangers highly touted as a tough guy and in his first 5 fights or so he beat his opponents pretty good. Then he met Craig Berube and Berube smoked him. He ended up losing a few more after than and was labeled as having a glass jaw. He was maybe 21 at the time. Rangers send him to the pack after a season and he refines his game. He was one of thier better defenders, and the Isles snatch him up. He goes to the Coliseum to become one of the most feared and best enforcers in the game at the time. He fought everyone and beat the elite at the trade, but he also became a decent defenseman. Jagr once said Cairns was the one guy he hated to play against because he knew every time he did he would take physical abuse.

Back to McIlrath...There is plenty of time to grow into the role for him though. The fighting will come, and he is already elite at that for his age group, but I am really hoping he can impose his will on opposing forwards like he did in Jrs. Hitting, and playing physical is an art, and a gift if you can do it without hurting your team by penalties and or taking yourself out of the play. But...the midset among fans and sometimes the organization itself is often "you are only as good as your last fight, your last hit, or your last game."

My point is if Mc is on the losing end of a tilt, or makes a bad play had a bad game etc, I hope that people don't write the guy off like they did with Cairns. Take him for what he is. A kid...A prospect, that needs time to learn the game at a faster level against bigger stronger opponents and develop into the guy this club wanted and still needs to this day. A physical menace on the blueline.
Great stuff Lion.

Also, I do not see any point what-so-ever for McIlrath to drop em with a legit heavy-weight goon in the AHL. None.

He should fight like Doug Murray in SJ fights, when challenged/standing up for himself or when its called for (like if someone is run over and he is close by). Any team can carry a 12th forward to drop em with another goon just to wake the team up. That's not McI's job.

He is a good D who should focus on playing hockey and being physical. He really has no chance to be as strong as the legit heavy weights at the age of 19, and can only loose by dropping em with the best in the AHL.

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Great stuff Lion.

Also, I do not see any point what-so-ever for McIlrath to drop em with a legit heavy-weight goon in the AHL. None.

He should fight like Doug Murray in SJ fights, when challenged/standing up for himself or when its called for (like if someone is run over and he is close by). Any team can carry a 12th forward to drop em with another goon just to wake the team up. That's not McI's job.

He is a good D who should focus on playing hockey and being physical. He really has no chance to be as strong as the legit heavy weights at the age of 19, and can only loose by dropping em with the best in the AHL.
Very True. I would be very happy if he turned into Doug Murray.

How Rangers can't be excited about this kid is beyond baffling.

The Rangers had Adam Graves hang out with right after the draft...enough said...now it is time to get Beuke back in the organization and teach the kid of to play the position the way he did.

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Very True. I would be very happy if he turned into Doug Murray.

How Rangers can't be excited about this kid is beyond baffling.

The Rangers had Adam Graves hang out with right after the draft...enough said...now it is time to get Beuke back in the organization and teach the kid of to play the position the way he did.
Beuke... I'm thinkin the exact same thing.

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So is he playing this weekend? I'm possibly going up to Boston on Saturday for the Yankees game, wouldn't mind shooting down to Hartford afterwards to catch the Whale game.

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You can't come in with the reputation McIlrath has and think he's not going to have to back it up. There's alot of guys at the AHL level who are dying to catch a break, and if one of them can dust off a reputed tough high draft pick, you can bet your money they will do it. If he refuses them, it's going to look bad. That said, he should pick his spots carefully, and not go up just to fight everyone. But I would enjoy the hell out of it if he were to show up like a gunfighter and scare the hell out of everybody kicking ass and taking names. It's one tough way to make a living, and as we see with Boogy and Colton Orr this year, a concussion can really spell the end of it all for you. I'd like to see him take the Chara route in fighting, you know know the guy isn't scared, he just doesn't do it every game. Theres a good chance theyre going to have a tight leash on him though, so they can see him play instead of sit in the box the whole time.

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I hope he's able to cope in the pros without that commentator from the Moose Jaw that screams his name like psycho every time he throws a hit.

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I hope he's able to cope in the pros without that commentator from the Moose Jaw that screams his name like psycho every time he throws a hit.
Haha I was thinking the same thing. The rangers should have brought him up to the whale on a tryout basis too. How is Mcillrath supposed to get pumped up and smash people without his personal MC?

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Without the shield tho..please



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Very True. I would be very happy if he turned into Doug Murray.

How Rangers can't be excited about this kid is beyond baffling.

The Rangers had Adam Graves hang out with right after the draft...enough said...now it is time to get Beuke back in the organization and teach the kid of to play the position the way he did.

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So is he playing this weekend? I'm possibly going up to Boston on Saturday for the Yankees game, wouldn't mind shooting down to Hartford afterwards to catch the Whale game.
Yah Im wondering the same I'm not sure anyone knows yet. Going Friday night I would love to see this kid play

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Should be really interesting to see how he plays at a more difficult level. Is there anyway to watch free AHL streams?

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Oh golly gee ATO. ****ing fantastic. See this...



That's an NHL jersey.

NHL >>>>>>>>>>> ATO

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Oh golly gee ATO. ****ing fantastic. See this...



That's an NHL jersey.

NHL >>>>>>>>>>> ATO
I'd like to see Cam Fowler putting up those points on this team.

Oh wait, he wouldn't because the top 6 he's passing to is ABSOLUTELY STACKED.

Big pass on Fowler, **** that soft tissue paper crap.

Now if you replace that with a Vlad Tarasenko jersey, i'd respectfully agree with you.

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Oh golly gee ATO. ****ing fantastic. See this...

That's an NHL jersey.

NHL >>>>>>>>>>> ATO
How long do you plan on fretting over this? Get over it.

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Oh golly gee ATO. ****ing fantastic. See this...



That's an NHL jersey.

NHL >>>>>>>>>>> ATO
I haven't put anyone on ignore in quite awhile, so thanks for this.

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How long do you plan on fretting over this? Get over it.
A)When the team starts winning.

or

B)When McIlrath puts up 40+ points in an NHL season.

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I'd like to see Cam Fowler putting up those points on this team.

Oh wait, he wouldn't because the top 6 he's passing to is ABSOLUTELY STACKED.

Big pass on Fowler, **** that soft tissue paper crap.

Now if you replace that with a Vlad Tarasenko jersey, i'd respectfully agree with you.
Fine Tarasenko it is then. There's about 15 guys I would've taken before McIlrath, you can choose any jersey you want.

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A)When the team starts winning.

or

B)When McIlrath puts up 40+ points in an NHL season.
That sounds pretty constructive... Why don't you study the list of players drafted after Hugh Jessiman while you're at it....

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That sounds pretty constructive... Why don't you study the list of players drafted after Hugh Jessiman while you're at it....
I already have, it's a ****ing all-star team. But go right ahead and support the management responsible for this, because that's also constructive.

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I already have, it's a ****ing all-star team. But go right ahead and support the management responsible for this, because that's also constructive.
Support like we had any say in who they drafted? It's called not dwelling on things you had absolutely no control over, and more importantly, moving on from it...

-What if Cherepanov didn't pass away?
-What if we didn't draft Jessiman?
-What if we won the shootout against Philly last year?

I could come up a whole laundry list of things you can fret over if it gives you enjoyment in doing so....

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