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Trading Up in This Year's Draft

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04-10-2011, 08:57 AM
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Trading Up in This Year's Draft

How much does a team have to pay to get in the top 4 or 5 in this year's draft?

Or a top 5 team trying to take RNH, Larsson, or Landeskog??

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04-10-2011, 09:16 AM
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It depends, where are you trading up from? There seem to be a couple of drop off points...it will take a lot more to trade up from say 10 or lower than from 8.

From late in the first, it will take a good young roster player. From 6-8, an early second and a late round pick may do it, depending on who the GM at 4/5 has his eye on.

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I was wondering about this as well.

I would like to see the Bruins move up from 9-10 to draft Landeskog. He would essentially replace Recchis spot on the team for about the same cap hit.

Would the 9-10 pick and Bruins 2012 1st get the deal done?

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I was wondering about this as well.

I would like to see the Bruins move up from 9-10 to draft Landeskog. He would essentially replace Recchis spot on the team for about the same cap hit.

Would the 9-10 pick and Bruins 2012 1st get the deal done?
The Bruins 2012 first rounder, will likely be a late first.I'm not saying it doesn't have value,but I'd rather see my gm take the potential stud in the 2011 top 3/4,then grab a less talented player in 2011 and that late first in 2012.

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I was wondering about this as well.

I would like to see the Bruins move up from 9-10 to draft Landeskog. He would essentially replace Recchis spot on the team for about the same cap hit.

Would the 9-10 pick and Bruins 2012 1st get the deal done?
I'd be willing to give up the Minny 2nd this year or a prospect along with the Toronto pick to move up.

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The Bruins 2012 first rounder, will likely be a late first.I'm not saying it doesn't have value,but I'd rather see my gm take the potential stud in the 2011 top 3/4,then grab a less talented player in 2011 and that late first in 2012.
Agree with this 100%. Late 1st next year has about a 25-30% chance of turning into a significant NHL player (top 9 forward, or top 6 d-man, starting goalie), and you're probably looking at 2015 until tht guy makes a contribution.

IMO, the only way the GM @ 4/5th overall makes that deal is if they don't feel confident in whoever is left at that spot.

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I'd be willing to give up the Minny 2nd this year or a prospect along with the Toronto pick to move up.
Unless you win the lottery, you will probably have quite a number of teams ahead of you in the draft trying to move up to draft Lando. I can't see any of the top 3 wanting to trade down. I can see NYI trading down as they have a record of doing so; but where they are in their rebuild I still think it's unlikely.

Ottawa and NJ both have a history of trading up if they can find a partner looking to trade down. Their 5th and 6th picks respectively are going to be more attractive than the Toronto pick.

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Unless you win the lottery, you will probably have quite a number of teams ahead of you in the draft trying to move up to draft Lando. I can't see any of the top 3 wanting to trade down. I can see NYI trading down as they have a record of doing so; but where they are in their rebuild I still think it's unlikely.

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What record of trading down?

In 2008,at the start of Snow's rebuild,he traded down because he needed to restock his prospect pool.He's used the last 3 drafts to restock the pool.

In 2009,Snow reject trade offers and refused to trade down from 1st overall.He later traded up from 26th to 12th overall,landing a 2nd high first rounder(De Haan).

At the 2010 draft,Snow refused to trade down from 5th overall.Then near the end of the first round,he traded up from his high 2nd rounder,to land the 30th overall pick(Nelson).

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2008 was what I was thinking off. Do remember he traded down twice that year too. Good points about 09 and 10. But 2008 gives NYI more of a track record than the other three! Still, as I originally said, its unlikely given where NYI are - I'd expect they want quality not quantity.

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2008 was what I was thinking off. Do remember he traded down twice that year too. Good points about 09 and 10. But 2008 gives NYI more of a track record than the other three! Still, as I originally said, its unlikely given where NYI are - I'd expect they want quality not quantity.
Based on Snow's trade demands at the 2010 draft,I agree that he wants quality not quantity.I disagree that trading down in 1 yr out of 4,shows some sort of track record for trading down by G. Snow.


Going into the 2008 draft,Snow and Wang told the fans that the isles were going to rebuild with homegrown talent.Kids.But the isles prospect pool had been thinned and needed to be restocked.Snow's approach was gather as many picks as he could.
The Isles prospect pool in 2011, is not in the same shape it was in going into the 2008 draft.


Isles came out of the 2008 draft with 13 prospects.
Isles came out of the 2009 draft with 7 prospects.
Isles came out of the 2010 draft with 6 prospects.

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