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04-10-2011, 02:29 PM
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could rise to 62,2M

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...2011-12-season

I don't know if it has been discussed in another thread, if so, merge it.

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I heard this was a possibility a little while ago. I really hope so, we may be able to fit Markov, Gorges, Wizniewski and a new contract for Subban after all.

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Tickets more expensive, but team improves by re-signing all of our D and AK46. Yes!

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Tickets more expensive, but team improves by re-signing all of our D and AK46. Yes!
Send gomez to the AHL and go for Richards no matter what and i wouldnt mind if the tickets become more expensive if they sign a big name like Richards.

Plekanec/Richards one two punch DAMN

Pacioretty - Richards - Gionta
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http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...2011-12-season

I don't know if it has been discussed in another thread, if so, merge it.

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It was anticipated since a while ago...

With this, we can sign Wiz and Hammer both...

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If the NHLPA approves the five percent escalator that would make this happen then the cap floor would be around $46.2 million. That minimum amount of spent money could be a serious downer for the league’s poorest teams, such as the Islanders.
This is where Gomez has some value. His cap hit (7.4M$ for next 3 years) is higher than is actual salary (5.8M$ avg for next 3 years).

NYI: Gomez + 1st and or prospects
MTL: 3rd liner and or B level prospects

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This is where Gomez has some value. His cap hit (7.4M$ for next 3 years) is higher than is actual salary (5.8M$ avg for next 3 years).

NYI: Gomez + 1st and or prospects
MTL: 3rd liner and or B level prospects
If Gomez has "some value", no freaking way I'm dumping a first to get rid of him.

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Good. A higher cap helps big market teams like us that have no problem spending that money.

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If Gomez has "some value", no freaking way I'm dumping a first to get rid of him.
Especially when we gave up a first to get him and it was a good first

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Tickets more expensive, but team improves by re-signing all of our D and AK46. Yes!
How does that improves the team ?

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Great, now we can give Gomez an extension.

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I called that last summer.

With the power of the CND over the US dollar, I wouldn't be surprised to see it rise to 65 mil for the 12-13 season.

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http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...2011-12-season

I don't know if it has been discussed in another thread, if so, merge it.

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Over a 5M dollar increase per team...and then there's some teams that have tough time getting to the floor...

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Over a 5M dollar increase per team...and then there's some teams that have tough time getting to the floor...
5% no?
thoses teams dont have financials to keep up. other teams will be able to deal with that. There is the revenue sharing

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Send gomez to the AHL and go for Richards no matter what and i wouldnt mind if the tickets become more expensive if they sign a big name like Richards.

Plekanec/Richards one two punch DAMN

Pacioretty - Richards - Gionta
Cammy - Plekanec - AK
yeah pay 8 millions in AHL. Molson will be happy.

Richards suck to deserve the 8 millions.

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Over a 5M dollar increase per team...and then there's some teams that have tough time getting to the floor...
Which will make Gomez very attractive to those teams, as he will have one of the highest margins in his last two seasons (-2,4 and -2,9) of cap vs true salary.

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Which will make Gomez very attractive to those teams, as he will have one of the highest margins in his last two seasons (-2,4 and -2,9) of cap vs true salary.
A team like Phoenix, maybe...wasn't that the trade deadline rumour?

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Send gomez to the AHL and go for Richards no matter what and i wouldnt mind if the tickets become more expensive if they sign a big name like Richards.

Plekanec/Richards one two punch DAMN

Pacioretty - Richards - Gionta
Cammy - Plekanec - AK
Given that our organization is all about saving face, I doubt we demote him or that it's even a consideration. Keep in mind, beyond our organizations thoughts, he's still respected by many players in this league, especially in the dressing room, and in the players eyes, it's not his fault he got offered a contract that pays more then he's worth. That being said, there are other options we could pursue through trade that likely wouldn't cost us and assets going forward.

Looking at the free agent pool, beyond Richards the next best center available is Fleischmann who has been injured for half the season. As usual, a lot of teams need top line centers this off season and a lot of teams will still need one after July 1st. Teams like Toronto, Columbus, and Atlanta all need a top-line center, are desperate to make the playoffs, and have cap space. Losing out on Richards could lead them to kick the tires on Gomez who could be had for a relatively cheap price without us giving up assets to try to entice another team.

Another option is that we trade him to a team like the Oilers or back to the Rangers for a player like Redden or Souray who is already in the minors. That way we don't have to worry about saving face while demoting a player as the player was in the minors in the first place. In the case of Souray, we can even spin it as a player who did a lot for us once and try to play it off as a reclamation project gone wrong.

Just some thoughts beyond the usual demote him or try to trade with a prospect to tempt other teams. I'd rather see us hold onto the prospect then use them to do something like trade away Gomez anyway.

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A team like Phoenix, maybe...wasn't that the trade deadline rumour?
Aye, unfortunately it was for Ed Jovanovski, who is a UFA this off season. I cannot see them wanting to shed off anyone else, especially for Gomez. There is also a decent possibility they will move to Winnipeg because of that whole lawsuit. If so, the new owners would want a competitive team and would pay to acquire it. Gomez is not who you shoot for.

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Another option is that we trade him to a team like the Oilers or back to the Rangers for a player like Redden or Souray who is already in the minors. That way we don't have to worry about saving face while demoting a player as the player was in the minors in the first place. In the case of Souray, we can even spin it as a player who did a lot for us once and try to play it off as a reclamation project gone wrong.
Correct me if I am mistaken but wouldn't Edmonton or New York have to put either on reentry waivers prior to making a trade? With Reddan, it would be irrelevant since no one wants him however Souray at $2.7 was some enticing value. He would get claimed I am almost certain, and therefore doubt Edmonton risks it.

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Which will make Gomez very attractive to those teams, as he will have one of the highest margins in his last two seasons (-2,4 and -2,9) of cap vs true salary.
No team in the right mind would pay Gomez $7.5m next year for the prospect of him getting 38 points for their team.

There may be a market for Gomer in 2 years but until then we are stuck with him.

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No team in the right mind would pay Gomez $7.5m next year for the prospect of him getting 38 points for their team.

There may be a market for Gomer in 2 years but until then we are stuck with him.
I wonder why I even bothered to mention the last two years, captain obvious.

Thanks for assuming I was talking of this year.

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If Gomez has "some value", no freaking way I'm dumping a first to get rid of him.
Seriously.

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I wonder why I even bothered to mention the last two years, captain obvious.

Thanks for assuming I was talking of this year.
Well that is what happens when you quote a post about the salary cap FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR. People assume that you are talking about that. Maybe you should make that more clear.

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Over a 5M dollar increase per team...and then there's some teams that have tough time getting to the floor...
Which will make Gomez very attractive to those teams, as he will have one of the highest margins in his last two seasons (-2,4 and -2,9) of cap vs true salary.

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So our free cap should go up to about 30M, which is what I expected.

PG will finally have some room to play with, it'll be interesting.

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Well that is what happens when you quote a post about the salary cap FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR. People assume that you are talking about that. Maybe you should make that more clear.
By mid next season, which is the start of next year, the 7,5 for Gomez will mean zilch. So yeah, it is related to the cap of this upcoming season, you just made the wrong assumption.

Also, I mentioned before that I wouldn't be surprised to see the cap rise again, to 65 for 12-13, as I called it rising again this year. (unless, obviously, they can't come to an agreement for the renewal of the CBA).

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