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04-11-2011, 03:56 PM
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Never understood why they don't wait until the CHL playoffs conclude before the final list.

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04-11-2011, 04:02 PM
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I'll just do this one at a time:
Current rank VS mid-season Rise/Fall

North America
Rank Name
1 NUGENT-HOPKINS, RYAN 1
2 LANDESKOG, GABRIEL -1
3 HUBERDEAU, JONATHAN 1
4 HAMILTON, DOUGIE 3
5 BEAULIEU, NATHAN 4
6 COUTURIER, SEAN -4
7 BAERTSCHI, SVEN -1
8 STROME, RYAN 11
9 MURPHY, RYAN 1
10 SIEMENS, DUNCAN 4
11 NAMESTNIKOV, VLADISLAV 6
12 MORROW, JOSEPH 4
13 OLEKSIAK, JAMIESON 14
14 MCNEILL, MARK 8
15 PHILLIPS, ZACK -3
16 SCHEIFELE, MARK 5
17 RATTIE, TY -6
18 JENNER, BOONE 0
19 SAAD, BRANDON -10
20 JURCO, TOMAS 4
21 JENSEN, NICKLAS -1
22 BIGGS, TYLER -17
23 MILLER, JONATHAN -10
24 MAYFIELD, SCOTT -9
25 MURPHY, CONNOR N/A
26 PRINCE, SHANE 9
27 DANAULT, PHILLIP -4
28 PUEMPEL, MATT 1
29 KHOKHLACHEV, ALEXANDER 16
30 RAKELL, RICKARD 4
31 AMBROZ, SETH -3
32 GRIMALDI, ROCCO -7
33 EDMUNDSON, JOEL 36
34 LUCIA, MARIO -4
35 NOESEN, STEFAN 12
36 RITCHIE, BRETT 21
37 CATENACCI, DANIEL 6
38 MUSIL, DAVID -12
39 BELL, MYLES -2
40 WOTHERSPOON, TYLER -7
41 TROCHECK, VINCENT 1
42 SHAW, LOGAN 10
43 NIETO, MATTHEW 12
44 OKE, SCOTT 14
45 CLENDENING, ADAM 16
46 LESSIO, LUCAS -2
47 TESINK, RYAN 2
48 WELINSKI, ANDY 55
49 NOEBELS, MARCEL -1
50 KURALY, SEAN 6
51 LABATE, JOSEPH 9
52 REILLY, MIKE 13
53 PERCY, STUART -2
54 SPROUL, RYAN 70
55 RUSSO, ROBBIE 17
56 SHORE, NICHOLAS -18
57 SCARLETT, REECE -7
58 LOWRY, ADAM 4
59 ST. CROIX, MICHAEL -23
60 OUELLET, XAVIER -21
61 JACOBS, COLIN -21
62 LE SIEUR, MAXIMILIEN -9
63 CRAMAROSSA, JOSEPH 5
64 BRASSARD, AUSTEN 24
65 ARCHAMBAULT, OLIVIER -24
66 EWANYK, TRAVIS 4
67 RACINE, JONATHAN 24
68 LOCKHART, LUKE 5
69 YUEN, ZACHARY 18
70 LARRAZA, ZAC 28
71 COUSINS, NICK 5
72 QUINE, ALAN -8
73 RIEDER, TOBIAS 1
74 HUDON, PHILIPPE -43
75 SULLIVAN, COLIN -9
76 KOUDYS, PATRICK -5
77 ST.CLAIR, COLTEN 6
78 CAMARA, ANTHONY 8
79 MEURS, GARRETT 0
80 REID, ADAM -21
81 WUTHRICH, AUSTIN N/A
82 CURTIS, MICHAEL 18
83 MERSCH, MICHAEL -20
84 FRITSCH, ANDREW 12
85 PEDAN, ANDREI -10
86 PALIOTTA, MICHAEL -54
87 CUTTING, KEEVIN 35
88 LOWE, KEEGAN 63
89 SEFTON, JUSTIN N/A
90 FOGARTY, STEVEN 42

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04-11-2011, 04:04 PM
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Again: rank change from mid-season to final.

Europe
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1 LARSSON, ADAM 0
2 ZIBANEJAD, MIKA 1
3 BRODIN, JONAS 1
4 ARMIA, JOEL -2
5 JASKIN, DMITRI 0
6 KLEFBOM, OSCAR 2
7 SALOMAKI, MIIKKA 0
8 NERMARK, JOACHIM 2
9 GRANLUND, MARKUS 7
10 BENGTSSON, RASMUS 16
11 HOFMANN, GREGORY 8
12 RASK, VICTOR -3
13 FRIBERG, MAX -7
14 BOYCE ROTEVALL, JEREMY 0
15 JOHANSSON, KARL -3
16 RUUTTU, ALEXANDER 25
17 KUCHEROV, NIKITA N/A
18 ARZAMASTSEV, ZAKHAR -7
19 MUSTONEN, JOEL 21
20 ARVIDSSON, VIKTOR 11
21 KARLSSON, WILLIAM 33
22 BERGLIND, VICTOR 0
23 DAHLBECK, KLAS N/A
24 SUNDSTROM, JOHAN -7
25 MARCHENKO, ALEXEI N/A
26 BARBASHEV, SERGEI N/A
27 CLAESSON, FREDRIK 0
28 SHMELEV, SERGEI 16
29 PETTERSSON, ADAM 21
30 BERTAGGIA, ALESSIO -9
31 AUVINEN, HENRI 24
32 NESTEROV, NIKITA 10
33 BJORKLUND, GUSTAV 38
34 SHALUNOV, MAXIM -14
35 CERESNAK, PETER -11
36 KUKAN, DEAN -7
37 WESTERHOLM, PATHRIK 1
38 JOKIPAKKA, JYRKI -10
39 BACKMAN, MATTIAS 56
40 ZERRESSEN, PASCAL 17
41 GUERRA, SAMUEL -8
42 LILLIESTROM KARLSSON, DAVID -7
43 ZAYTSEV, NIKITA -20
44 MIKHAILOV, DMITRI 1
45 NOREN, PATRIK -13
46 PRIBYL, DANIEL 6

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04-11-2011, 04:06 PM
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Unless Ottawa trades or LOSES the lottery and falls to 6th, it will be Huberdoue or Couturier (whoever is available of the 2).

Strome even though as skilled if not more is behind Huberdoue in terms of projectable size and overall game.

Huberdoue will be no shorter than 6-2 200 when he gets to the NHL. He plays a 2 way style.

Claude Giroux comparisson is only to the extent than Hubedoue is a lot better prospect than Giroux was and has more in the tool box.

And we can all agree Claude Giroux is a a sure fire top line player if not a great player.
Are you high? Huberdeau can't even touch what Giroux accomplished as a junior player, and with a much better team to boot.

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04-11-2011, 04:09 PM
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Are you high? Huberdeau can't even touch what Giroux accomplished as a junior player, and with a much better team to boot.
I agree I can't trust a word 4thliner is saying here, but Huberdeau's just 17 and he leads the nations top team, scored more goals, and scored more points then Giroux at the same age. His draft status is also considerably better.

I'm sure he can at the very least touch whatever Giroux did by 17.

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04-11-2011, 04:16 PM
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Are you high? Huberdeau can't even touch what Giroux accomplished as a junior player, and with a much better team to boot.
What is it that Giroux did that Huberdeau will never touch? The point totals are similar. The only thing Giroux has on Huberdeau is his playoffs as a 19 year old, and Huberdeau is challenging that now as a 17 year old.

As for the list I would move Strome up at least to number 5

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04-11-2011, 04:20 PM
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Are you high? Huberdeau can't even touch what Giroux accomplished as a junior player, and with a much better team to boot.


Claude Giroux draft year

69GP 39G 64A 103PTS 64PIM

Playoffs
17GP 5G 15A 20PTS 24PIM


Jonathan Huberdeau draft year

67GP 43G 62A 105PTS 88PIM +59

Playoffs
6GP 7G 9A 16PTS 8PIM +8

Heck were Claude played for Cumberland Grads of the CJHL at 16, Huberdeau was a pretty good player in Saint Johns last year.

And Huberdeau is a lot bigger player and will get much bigger still when he gets to the NHL.....and he is a center.

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04-11-2011, 04:23 PM
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Claude Giroux draft year

69GP 39G 64A 103PTS 64PIM

Playoffs
17GP 5G 15A 20PTS 24PIM


Jonathan Huberdeau draft year

67GP 43G 62A 105PTS 88PIM +59

Playoffs
6GP 7G 9A 16PTS 8PIM +8

Heck were Claude played for Cumberland Grads of the CJHL at 16, Huberdeau was a pretty good player in Saint Johns last year.

And Huberdeau is a lot bigger player and will get much bigger still when he gets to the NHL.....and he is a center.
Major burn.

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04-11-2011, 04:24 PM
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It would be nice if they did a list up that had both the europeans and north american skaters on it. I'm sure the scouting staff has seen them enough to know, however for fans it is a little harder.

We know Larsson is up in the top 4 but what about the rest? Zibanejad is 2nd on the european list but how would he compare to say number 10 on the NA side?

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04-11-2011, 04:25 PM
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Yeah, sorry for some reason I thought his 51 point year was in his draft year. Either way, it's pretty hard to say that Huberdeau is a much better prospect than someone that is almost a PPG player in the NHL.

I think that RNH, Couturier and Strome are all better forward prospects than Hubderdeau offensively, and Landeskog should be just as good if not better. Defensively he might have an edge on Strome and RNH, but they're both competent in their own end and the neutral zone causing interference and turn-overs. I RNH and Strome are both better skaters, each have their own shot on Huberdeau (RNH - wrist, Strome - Onetimer/slap), they both have better hands and better vision. I just don't see anything that Huberdeau has that makes him more appealing than RNH/Strome or Couturier.

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04-11-2011, 04:26 PM
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What is it that Giroux did that Huberdeau will never touch? The point totals are similar. The only thing Giroux has on Huberdeau is his playoffs as a 19 year old, and Huberdeau is challenging that now as a 17 year old.

As for the list I would move Strome up at least to number 5
Actually he was 20 having been sent down from the Phantoms of the AHL after 5 game stint and playing as an overager in Hull the year he amassed some 50 pts in the playoffs. Huberdeau could easily challenge those #'s in THIS years playoffs being 3 years younger than Claude was.


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Unless Ottawa trades or LOSES the lottery and falls to 6th, it will be Huberdoue or Couturier (whoever is available of the 2).

Strome even though as skilled if not more is behind Huberdoue in terms of projectable size and overall game.

Huberdoue will be no shorter than 6-2 200 when he gets to the NHL. He plays a 2 way style.

Claude Giroux comparisson is only to the extent than Hubedoue is a lot better prospect than Giroux was and has more in the tool box.

And we can all agree Claude Giroux is a a sure fire top line player if not a great player.
Rule #1: If you can't spell a prospect's name right, I will not take you seriously.

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Rule #1: If you can't spell a prospect's name right, I will not take you seriously.
Huberdeau or Huberdoue or.....who cares, don't take me seriously then

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