I'm filing this thread alongside the "what would you give up for Doughty, Duchene and Weber" threads. Someone was a bit bored, I guess?
maaaybe
truth be told, was just watching some video highlights and such of his and started to wonder what kind of a package it would take to get him. would be fairly substantial, but we have SOOOO many redundant parts on this team and going forth that it may be time to make a splash.
That's what I believe it would take to get it done. I personally would offer Anisimov, Valentenko, 1st and say take it or leave it, in which case they'd probably leave it
I guess I'm the only one who doesn't drool over other teams players. I'd rather NYR grow some visual elements and knowledge required to draft their own good players than trade for other teams talent.
Plus, these never work, every NYR fan will lowball ATL and every ATL fan will lowball NYR.
Grachev? Already people hate him right? He's not quick enough in development so he needs to be moved. Prototypical New York fans.
Wolski? Garbage. Zucc? Garbage. No team wants these players. Their value is low.
Try Anisimov, Dubinsky, Staal, DZ. One of those + more.
Am I the only one not enamored with the kid? Jeesh.
Not sure what there is not to like. He's physical, has been trending upwards point-wise (both goals and assists), good wheels, good size (and could get bigger) and is only 19.
I guess I'm the only one who doesn't drool over other teams players. I'd rather NYR grow some visual elements and knowledge required to draft their own good players than trade for other teams talent.
Plus, these never work, every NYR fan will lowball ATL and every ATL fan will lowball NYR.
Grachev? Already people hate him right? He's not quick enough in development so he needs to be moved. Prototypical New York fans.
Wolski? Garbage. Zucc? Garbage. No team wants these players. Their value is low.
Try Anisimov, Dubinsky, Staal, DZ. One of those + more.
I agree that the price would be high. But you're talking about two different categories when you put a Dubinsky or Staal with an Anisimov or Del Zotto.
Not directed at you, but I don't think ATL is looking for prospects. They want young established NHL players they can control for more than a season.
Not sure what there is not to like. He's physical, has been trending upwards point-wise (both goals and assists), good wheels, good size (and could get bigger) and is only 19.
I just don't see the high-end offensive skill that everyone seems to have. Is he a 60 point player? Yes, but I don't think he's that impressive. Sure, he's 19, but I think it carries more risk than everyone perceives.
Excellent young player with all the tools. I don't think he tops out as a superstar, but definately as an All-Star.
Here's what i would offer to get him...
2011 First and Second.
Michael Del Zotto
Or...
Matz Zuccarello
Michael DelZotto
2011 2nd Rounder
Or...
Carl Hagelin
Michael Del Zotto
2011 2nd Rounder
I would make any of those deals. I am willing to give up our talent for another teams talent and those are 3 very good offers...not sure Atlanta would do it though.
Do you want DZ after an abysmal sophomore season? Sure, he's worth a shot. He's young. But for an improving young forward? Ask yourself: Does ATL need d-men? Offensive d-men? Might not be a glaring need. Do they need picks? Sure. But I don't think Atlanta is "rebuilding" as much as trying to make a playoff run and work young as they have. Our 1st rd pick won't mean much as a regular middle-of-the-pack team. We usually have a 15th-20th pick.
I didn't necessarilly mean to value Dubinsky or Staal in the category of Anisimov or DZ, but it definitely will take a lot to grab a 19-year old forward who seems to have it all. Too much to be worth it. Draft your own talent.
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