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04-12-2011, 11:35 AM
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Agreed that it is key, but definitely overrated analytically.
Yeah, I don't know why but it seems like a flawed theory. Lets just stick to letting up less goals than the Sabres in 4 games out of 7. That seems like a slightly better approach.

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04-12-2011, 11:37 AM
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The only way buffalo should win any game, is if Miller steals one for them. This team is perfectly created for the play-offs. I'm calling it now. Philly in 5. We have never had any problems scoring on Miller before. When the game is on the line, the flyers are a fantastic team to watch.

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04-12-2011, 11:47 AM
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Did you guys really just call Vanek fast? I'd say he gets random bursts of energy but far from "fast". He can definitely embarass people with his stick work, though.

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Did you guys really just call Vanek fast? I'd say he gets random bursts of energy but far from "fast". He can definitely embarass people with his stick work, though.
Apparently you missed his overtime goal last week where he split our D and left them in the dust.

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04-12-2011, 11:56 AM
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Apparently you missed his overtime goal last week where he split our D and left them in the dust.
Neither of those D are exactly gazelles... Meszaros can move a bit, but like a lot of big guys it's more top end speed than quickness.

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04-12-2011, 01:38 PM
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No fancy play, put de puck on the net. So no hesitation by the player when he have to take a shot from de point espacialy on the PP.

And Yeah Pronger! The playoff is the reason why we paid alot for him. Pronger is a coach on the ice and can dictate the tempo and keep the puck a few time in the defensive zone.
Fancy play is absolutely an issue, this team has played very sloppy hockey for awhile now. If they cannot establish the cycle by getting the puck in deep and take advantage of the skill factor it does not bode well. They cannot get into an up and down style of game, makes this team too prone to giving up leads.

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04-12-2011, 01:48 PM
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Score at least one goal through the side of the net.

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Score at least one goal through the side of the net.
And try not to lose 8-0.

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****ing run them through the ****ing boards every ****ing time we can, ****!

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Get solid goaltending (doesn't have to be great).

Get at least a draw on special teams.

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Get solid goaltending (doesn't have to be great).

Get at least a draw on special teams.
So you're saying we're screwed?

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04-12-2011, 03:39 PM
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They need to avoid this brand of hockey, the kind they've been playing lately . . .



Their big edge is down the middle. BUF, especially with Roy out, doesn't have much at center. They need to exploit that.

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all I ask is they play 60 mins of hard nosed hockey
each and every game and they'll go all the way

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  1. Be physical, finish your checks.
  2. Put traffic in front of Miller, crash him if you can. Hartnell is great at that. He was recently injured.
  3. Make sure Briere gets set up in his office right around the net.
  4. No stupid and lazy backhand passes to no one.
  5. Play the system.

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  1. Be physical, finish your checks.
  2. Put traffic in front of Miller, crash him if you can. Hartnell is great at that. He was recently injured.
  3. Make sure Briere gets set up in his office right around the net.
  4. No stupid and lazy backhand passes to no one.
  5. Play the system.
Miller was hurt by a high shot to the collarbone by Phaneuf. Needless to say, shoot high, shoot often!

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Defend against the stretch pass. How many breakaways, or partial breakaways, did they have last game? (OT winner)

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Hi guys, yeah I'm a Sabres fan. But I'm not here to start trouble, I just wanted to re-familiarize myself with the Flyers line up. Could you please post their probable line combinations and defensive pairings? Thanks, and good luck! May the best team win.

And to show that I come in peace, here are the probable lines for the Sabres for Game 1:

Vanek-Connolly-Pomminville
Ennis-Boyes-Stafford
Gerbe-Gaustad-Kaleta
Neidermeyer-McCormick-Mancari

Sekera-Myers
Butler-Montador
Morrisonn-Weber

Miller

It's hard to keep track of all the changes with the Sabres let alone other teams! lol

I did watch the Flyers play a lot last season, for obvious reasons. And I thought Hartnell was brilliant in two of the series I watched, I think it was round 3 and the Finals. And he looked pretty amazing vs. the Sabres last week too, so he might be a guy the Sabres want to key in on, maybe even try to sick an agitator
like Kaleta on him.

And if there is one forward in particular that the Flyers are gonna wanna slow down it's Vanek. He closed out the season with 3 points in each of his last 3 games, and he's one of the few John LeClair types that can stand in there vs. a Pronger.

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04-12-2011, 08:08 PM
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^ The lines have yet to be determined. The return of Blair Betts is expected and that will necessitate the removal of an additional forward.

Nikolay Zherdev-Claude Giroux-Jeff Carter
Scott Hartnell-Danny Briere-Ville Leino
James van Riemsdyk-Mike Richards-Kris Versteeg
Andreas Nodl-Blair Betts/Darroll Powe-Dan Carcillo

Matt Carle-Danny Syvret
Kimmo Timonen-Braydon Coburn
Sean O’Donnell-Andrej Meszaros

Sergei Bobrovsky

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04-12-2011, 08:16 PM
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Hi guys, yeah I'm a Sabres fan. But I'm not here to start trouble, I just wanted to re-familiarize myself with the Flyers line up. Could you please post their probable line combinations and defensive pairings? Thanks, and good luck! May the best team win.

And to show that I come in peace, here are the probable lines for the Sabres for Game 1:

Vanek-Connolly-Pomminville
Ennis-Boyes-Stafford
Gerbe-Gaustad-Kaleta
Neidermeyer-McCormick-Mancari

Sekera-Myers
Butler-Montador
Morrisonn-Weber

Miller

It's hard to keep track of all the changes with the Sabres let alone other teams! lol

I did watch the Flyers play a lot last season, for obvious reasons. And I thought Hartnell was brilliant in two of the series I watched, I think it was round 3 and the Finals. And he looked pretty amazing vs. the Sabres last week too, so he might be a guy the Sabres want to key in on, maybe even try to sick an agitator
like Kaleta on him.

And if there is one forward in particular that the Flyers are gonna wanna slow down it's Vanek. He closed out the season with 3 points in each of his last 3 games, and he's one of the few John LeClair types that can stand in there vs. a Pronger.
I would expect Lavy to try to run Hartnell-Briere-Leino against your Connolly line. Reason being, Leino is a very effective defensive forward when he's not trying to do too much in the offensive zone and turning the puck over. I think he'll be the guy to try to contain Vanek.

It will be interesting to see if he flips Carter back to center considering Boyes and Gaustad have some size. If there's a sleeper forward you might have to watch out for, it's JVR.

I think the key is the center position. I like my Flyers much better down the middle, but Richards, Briere and Giroux/Carter have to go out their and outplay their counterparts.

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04-12-2011, 08:24 PM
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step 1- dress Rinaldo
step 2- point Rinaldo at Miller
step 3- clean up what's left of Miller
step 4- deny step 2

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Also Bob must not choke.

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^ The lines have yet to be determined. The return of Blair Betts is expected and that will necessitate the removal of an additional forward.

Nikolay Zherdev-Claude Giroux-Jeff Carter
Scott Hartnell-Danny Briere-Ville Leino
James van Riemsdyk-Mike Richards-Kris Versteeg
Andreas Nodl-Blair Betts/Darroll Powe-Dan Carcillo

Matt Carle-Danny Syvret
Kimmo Timonen-Braydon Coburn
Sean O’Donnell-Andrej Meszaros

Sergei Bobrovsky
Thank you, this will make it a lot easier to keep track of everybody on the ice!

I'm shocked that Richards is on the 3rd line, but he does play a lot on the PK and PP so I'm sure he's getting plenty of minutes. And those aren't exactly 3rd line wingers, at all. That Brierre line was a killer in last years playoffs.

WTF is Danny Syvret?!

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04-13-2011, 02:53 AM
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I would expect Lavy to try to run Hartnell-Briere-Leino against your Connolly line. Reason being, Leino is a very effective defensive forward when he's not trying to do too much in the offensive zone and turning the puck over. I think he'll be the guy to try to contain Vanek.

It will be interesting to see if he flips Carter back to center considering Boyes and Gaustad have some size. If there's a sleeper forward you might have to watch out for, it's JVR.

I think the key is the center position. I like my Flyers much better down the middle, but Richards, Briere and Giroux/Carter have to go out their and outplay their counterparts.
I hesitate to call Boyes a big center, he's got an average NHL stature but he doesn't play big at all. Add into the fact that Boyes has played wing with St. Louis for most of the season, and you shouldn't have to change anything.

Clearly, the Flyers are the stronger team down the middle, that was quite the coming out party for Giroux in last years playoffs and obviously he's not a fluke. The changes in Ruff's system since Roy went down with a torn muscle, don't rely heavily on the centers to provide play making. The Sabres lead the attack on their wings usually, and the centers focus more on playing defense. The centers are usually the last ones out of the d-zone and the first ones out of the o-zone. So while they are less talented, less is being asked of them offensively too, but I don't expect either team to dominate this series with defensive play.

In fact, I'm hoping Miller will be the great equalizer.

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step 1- dress Rinaldo
step 2- point Rinaldo at Miller
step 3- clean up what's left of Miller
step 4- deny step 2


As if Hartnell will run Miller


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Thank you, this will make it a lot easier to keep track of everybody on the ice!

I'm shocked that Richards is on the 3rd line, but he does play a lot on the PK and PP so I'm sure he's getting plenty of minutes. And those aren't exactly 3rd line wingers, at all. That Brierre line was a killer in last years playoffs.

WTF is Danny Syvret?!
Lines 1-3 are a bit of a foggy gooey mess. It's more of a weird 1a, 1b, 1c type of thing.

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