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04-14-2011, 01:01 PM
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He sounds like Claude Giroux. Am I wrong in that very quick assessment?

Very quick, heady player. Will battle for loose pucks. Offensively gifted.

I still think Zia, McNeil or Armia will be the Rangers pick but as always ODC, you're description intrigues me.
not big on comparing prospects to current players. thats a tough call.

all i know for sure is we need a dose of speed and creativity at the center position. we dont seem to have anyone in the system that offers that.

this guy offers that and more. and he will prolly be available to us. and if hes there, and we think we can move down and still get him, im all for packaging our 1st and a 2nd for a lower 1st- to take koko, and perhaps a higher 2nd.

i just dont see him dropping out of the 1st round.

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not big on comparing prospects to current players. thats a tough call.

all i know for sure is we need a dose of speed and creativity at the center position. we dont seem to have anyone in the system that offers that.

this guy offers that and more. and he will prolly be available to us. and if hes there, and we think we can move down and still get him, im all for packaging our 1st and a 2nd for a lower 1st- to take koko, and perhaps a higher 2nd.

i just dont see him dropping out of the 1st round.
Do you see him still being available late 1st? So hypothetically, we could trade our 2nd + WSH 2nd to grab something between 26-30 and get him, and still get someone like McNeill at the top of the round?

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04-14-2011, 01:42 PM
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Do you see him still being available late 1st? So hypothetically, we could trade our 2nd + WSH 2nd to grab something between 26-30 and get him, and still get someone like McNeill at the top of the round?
ya never know.

kuznetsov went 26th last year.

tarasenko went 16th.

im hoping we draft anyone who can create some time and space offensively. we need that bad.

mcneil is kind of the flavor of the month right now. his offensive upside is some what limited from what i know, maybe im wrong. i think we need a high end offensive centerman.

i like strome more than mcneil. zbad and koko would make me happy. any one of these 3 would be fine.

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ya never know.

kuznetsov went 26th last year.

tarasenko went 16th.

im hoping we draft anyone who can create some time and space offensively. we need that bad.

mcneil is kind of the flavor of the month right now. his offensive upside is some what limited from what i know, maybe im wrong. i think we need a high end offensive centerman.

i like strome more than mcneil. zbad and koko would make me happy. any one of these 3 would be fine.
McNeill was just being used as an example, I would definately take Strome/Zibanejad first, McNeill just seems like a more realistic target for 15.

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I can't get my hopes up for us drafting Khokhlachev after getting all excited about Tarasenko last year. That's too bad, because him and Armia sound like the most appealing guys we have any chance at drafting.

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I Like Namenstikov from London(ohl), hes dropped a bit from the beginning of the season(started top 10 i believe) but he has a ton of potential from what I have seen, and I think can be worth the risk where we stand.

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I Like Namenstikov from London(ohl), hes dropped a bit from the beginning of the season(started top 10 i believe) but he has a ton of potential from what I have seen, and I think can be worth the risk where we stand.
of the 2 russians, koko is the more talented and imo, the better prospect.

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koko with a good game- 3rd star and 6th goal in the playoffs, in the spits 6-2 beatdown of sag last night.

fun first period as windsor play really well early and it was esentially game over after 1. the often moved mavric parks got smoked.

koko continues to put up points in the playoffs.

11 6 8 14 10 6 not bad for a 17 year old.

dude is an exciting player. man o man is shifty and dangerous when he has the puck.

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Seems like players picked from 10-25 are pretty much all projects with differing upsides and downsides.

Drafts like this are a pain, we literally have no clue of who we might get.

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Seems like players picked from 10-25 are pretty much all projects with differing upsides and downsides.

Drafts like this are a pain, we literally have no clue of who we might get.
Aren't nearly all drafts like this, though? You usually don't get any surefire prospects without a lottery pick.

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Aren't nearly all drafts like this, though? You usually don't get any surefire prospects without a lottery pick.
The only way we would know who we pick is to steal all 30 teams draft boards and use the process of elimination.

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I can't believe how far Saad is dropping. I think at this point last year there was talk of him being in the top 5 or 7 or so.
I can. He is a pathetic player. No drive and not skilled enough to warrant coasting. I don't want him anywhere near this team. I am as wary as him as I was of Sanguinetti during his draft year. Both US kids, both no real drive and both not as skilled as they should be to play the games they do.

Of course, we selected Bobby Sangs.

And I'm sure if he falls to us we will unfortunately select him.

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I am not going to lie. I think calling a player "Koko" is borderline creepy, offda.

I think there will be a number of better players available at 15 than him, but I wouldn't burn down a house if we selected him.

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Aren't nearly all drafts like this, though? You usually don't get any surefire prospects without a lottery pick.
No. Most drafts are not like this. These guys have very real and almost scary flaws for first round picks. The realistic folks will tell you how poor this draft is. There are a few delusional ones here, though, that like to tell you it's all fine and as good as normal. Actual scouts out there have been talking about how poor this draft is for two full years now.

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I am not going to lie. I think calling a player "Koko" is borderline creepy, offda.

I think there will be a number of better players available at 15 than him, but I wouldn't burn down a house if we selected him.
koko is alot better than typing khokhlachev. dontcha think.

as for the creepy part, well thats your own issue i guess....

i think he would be someone we could put to great use and he would easily become one of our most exciting prospects.

and i think he will be there when we draft and we might be able to move down and still get him.

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No. Most drafts are not like this. These guys have very real and almost scary flaws for first round picks. The realistic folks will tell you how poor this draft is. There are a few delusional ones here, though, that like to tell you it's all fine and as good as normal. Actual scouts out there have been talking about how poor this draft is for two full years now.
I am late to this post...but what about Ty Biggs?

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Union College UFA G Keith Kinkaid has signed with the Devils. Great opportunity for a young goaltender.

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Union College UFA G Keith Kinkaid has signed with the Devils. Great opportunity for a young goaltender.
Fitzy ain't going to be please with that.

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Fitzy ain't going to be please with that.
He was never going to sign with the Rangers. Well, at least he was not leaving school early to do so. The Devils have nothing in the pipeline, it's a perfect opportunity for a young goalie. Not to mention he's from Long Island, so location is perfect for his family to see him play.

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He was never going to sign with the Rangers. Well, at least he was not leaving school early to do so. The Devils have nothing in the pipeline, it's a perfect opportunity for a young goalie. Not to mention he's from Long Island, so location is perfect for his family to see him play.
He also gets to play in Albany with the Albany Devils. Close to Union.

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He also gets to play in Albany with the Albany Devils. Close to Union.
Probably won't amount to much anyway.

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I am late to this post...but what about Ty Biggs?
His fatal flaw is that he has limited upside. 2nd line player 60 points at the absolute most.

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His fatal flaw is that he has limited upside. 2nd line player 60 points at the absolute most.
is that a bad thing...he is a big boy who can park himself in front of the net....

Question, who can we get that offers more upside at that pick.

I am sure there are a few but do they come with Zherdev type ethics...u know, all talent, no heart.

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I dont want to sound bias or prejudice but I really want to stay away from Russians in the first round.

Most seem to have high talent but are enigmatic.

We should look to draft a playmaking center or a puckmoving offensive Defenseman with a big shot.

I wouldnt be opposed to a scoring wing or Power forward if they were the BPA.

Once/If (I am keeping the faith, Cant give up on this team) the Rangers are Eliminated, then I will start doing research on which player I want the Rangers to draft.

Last year at the position the Rangers were drafting, with the players that were off the board, I would have drafted Bjugstadt.

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I dont want to sound bias or prejudice but I really want to stay away from Russians in the first round.

Most seem to have high talent but are enigmatic.
No, you don't want to sound it, but biased and prejudiced is exactly what you are when you say things like this. Most seem? Well, I guess it doesn't matter than that most aren't, eh?

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