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04-18-2011, 06:56 PM
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This is not a team that should be anywhere near the UFA market for anything but plugging short-term holes. Tying ourselves up with big contracts to veterans at our current stage can only end in tears.

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04-18-2011, 07:14 PM
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This is not a team that should be anywhere near the UFA market for anything but plugging short-term holes. Tying ourselves up with big contracts to veterans at our current stage can only end in tears.
Well Talbot wouldn't make a lot of money, and he's 27 years old. He's a younger veteran like Spezza.

Plus Chris Phillips just signed for 3 years so I wouldn't say signing older players is out of the question.

Talbot obviously wants to sign here, he just scored tonight.

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04-18-2011, 07:29 PM
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Can't believe only a few of you would sign him. This is exactly the kind of guys this team needs. Someone who hates to lose, stand up for his teammates, scores big goals, leads by example and gets involved in the community.

How many times do we have to see this team quit when down by two goals or skate away when a star player gets hit?

There is only one guy in the current lineup that actually looks pissed after a loss and that Chris Neil. Then again, it seems like the consensus amongst fans would be to trade him at the draft.

We need a few winners in this dressing room.

A definate yay!!

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04-18-2011, 08:09 PM
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I'd rather get someone with more talent to be honest...

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04-18-2011, 08:09 PM
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I'd prefer Zenon Konopka. Former 67's captain, will stick up for the kids, great faceoff man and will play the PK.
Kenopka brings nothing, with the exception of a boatload of penalty minutes.

Also say no to Talbot, the Sens don't need vets to challenge for 9 - 15, let the kids develop.

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04-18-2011, 08:20 PM
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04-18-2011, 08:29 PM
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Yeah Talbot would be pretty sweet. I'll put my hatred aside if he signs with the Sens.
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04-18-2011, 09:57 PM
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04-18-2011, 10:15 PM
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Does anyone really think Max Talbot can be counted on to score 2 goals in every big hockey game? Judging a player by 1 game is really stupid.

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04-18-2011, 10:17 PM
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Does anyone really think Max Talbot can be counted on to score 2 goals in every big hockey game? Judging a player by 1 game is really stupid.
Sigh. I'm pretty sure we wouldn't sign him for his goal scoring. The 2 clutch goals in Game 7 of the SCF just illustrate that he steps it up in the playoffs and is one of those foot soldiers you need in order to win.

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04-18-2011, 10:32 PM
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Does anyone really think Max Talbot can be counted on to score 2 goals in every big hockey game? Judging a player by 1 game is really stupid.
The guy does everything to win. He'll score a big goal once in a while but you want him everything else he brings: blocking a shot like he did in the dying seconds of tonight's game, for his leadership, he's also good on the PK, finishes every checks, competes every shifts, good on the forecheck. He's everything we wish Winchester would be.

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04-18-2011, 10:51 PM
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Nay. We've got enough 3rd liners as it is.

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04-18-2011, 11:02 PM
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Sigh. I'm pretty sure we wouldn't sign him for his goal scoring. The 2 clutch goals in Game 7 of the SCF just illustrate that he steps it up in the playoffs and is one of those foot soldiers you need in order to win.
Actually the most important part of the Pens that year was Crosby, Malkin and Fleury.

Having good bottom six forwards sometimes makes the difference in playoff series when both teams' top 2 lines match up evenly. The Senators have a top 6 of Spezza and some rock 'em sock 'em robots with hockey sticks taped to their fists. Improving the bottom 6 won't help much when the 1st and 2nd lines get steamrolled for 2/3rds of the game.

Max Talbot might be a slight improvement over whoever plays 3rd line C for the Sens next year, but having good top 6 forwards is what gives bottom 6 guys the opportunity to step up.

I'm going to be silly and use a car analogy here: It's like buying this big expensive spoiler for an F1 car when everyone else's engines have twice as much horsepower as yours. Sure it improves the performance a little bit, but it's a meaningless difference until you actually get an engine that lets you keep up with the other cars.

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04-19-2011, 10:21 AM
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Actually the most important part of the Pens that year was Crosby, Malkin and Fleury.

Having good bottom six forwards sometimes makes the difference in playoff series when both teams' top 2 lines match up evenly. The Senators have a top 6 of Spezza and some rock 'em sock 'em robots with hockey sticks taped to their fists. Improving the bottom 6 won't help much when the 1st and 2nd lines get steamrolled for 2/3rds of the game.

Max Talbot might be a slight improvement over whoever plays 3rd line C for the Sens next year, but having good top 6 forwards is what gives bottom 6 guys the opportunity to step up.

I'm going to be silly and use a car analogy here: It's like buying this big expensive spoiler for an F1 car when everyone else's engines have twice as much horsepower as yours. Sure it improves the performance a little bit, but it's a meaningless difference until you actually get an engine that lets you keep up with the other cars.
Look at the Penguins right now. They are winning because of guys like Talbot who are grinding it out to win.

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04-19-2011, 10:25 AM
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Look at the Penguins right now. They are winning because of guys like Talbot who are grinding it out to win.
The argument will continue to be: while Talbot's got a ton of experience and could help accelerate the rebuild, why invest in yet another bottom 6 guy? We have those guys literally coming out of our ears, we need to get a guy into the lineup who has the potential of netting 30 goals, but would absolutely net 20-25 in our top 6.

To me, Talbot is a guy you go after in 3 years when the Sens are primed to make the playoffs and perhaps do some damage, not now.

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04-19-2011, 11:02 AM
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Another 3rd liner
Comparing our 3rd liner to Brooks Laichs is like comparing pineapples and grapes. Brooks laich is better than any potential 2nd line centers we have.

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04-19-2011, 11:18 AM
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We don't need Talbot. No thanks.

Let's just get a top-6 winger that can put up some points. Somebody with some talent. Somebody, dare I say, that can fill in for Alfie on the top line when Alfie goes down with injury for most of the season again... (hoping that doesn't happen, but he'll be 39 this season). You can train all you want, do as much physiotherapy as you can handle, but when your ligaments start wearing down, you slow down. If his back is as bad as rumoured, he'll be very lucky to get through another season.

Our UFA pick this summer should be a stop-gap Alfie replacement (well, at least a top 6 winger) that can play 2-3 years until we develop our own younger, cheaper replacement.

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04-19-2011, 11:25 AM
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Simple. Hell Nay

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04-19-2011, 09:25 PM
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Rather get Dupuis or Pominville

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