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NBC/VS WIN new NHL TV Deal: $200MM/yr x 10 yrs, Exclusive Rights

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04-19-2011, 12:53 PM
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A 2M per year increase on the cap would mean that in 10 years we would have an
80$ cap
It would be a one-time increase of $2 million, not another $2 million increase each year.

The TV deal does not seem to have annual increases, so the revenues will stay the same each year. Therefore, this should only affect the cap at the beginning, if I understand it correctly.

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There's no threshold on the amount of centrally generated league revenue that would trigger part of it going to revenue sharing. The key figures are:

- The minimum revenue sharing pool is set each year at 4.5% of league HRR.
- Up to 25% of that pool will be sourced from "excess centrally generated league revenues, if any". So the target would be 1.125% of HRR.

For league revenues projected around $2.8B or so with the new TV deal that's around $31m per year of the TV deal that would go into the revenue sharing pool.
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Quoting myself, it's article 49.5 (a). The threshold is $300MM for all NHL centrally generated revenues (TV, NHL Enterprises). Fifty per cent of the portion above $300M can be used by the NHL to fund 25% of the Cost Redistribution system.

The Canadian and US TV monies would total, roughly, $340-ish MM, plus the Enterprises monies. Don't forget to not double count. If the money is taken off the top to fund revenue transfer, the individual teams don't get that money distributed to them (except the recipients get the revenue transfer money per the prescribed formula).

Do you remember how the Canadian central TV monies are distributed? I remember seeing GHOST or kdb post something recently that provided a slightly larger share than 1/30th to the Cdn teams.

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One thing to point out: the articles I've read don't say the deal pays the NHL $200m each season, just that it averages $200m per season. It very well could be escalating year to year payments.

If someone's found an article stating otherwise by all means post it.

League presser is at 1 PM ET today. Maybe we'll find out more this afternoon.

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Some details from Sports Business Journal
-About 100 regular season games total between Versus and NBC
-NBC will air a game on the Friday after Thanksgiving.
-NBC/Versus will build NHL Network a new studio in Connecticut

Also and most importantly all playoff games will be televised nationally.

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Also, does anyone know what the NHL is getting from CBC and TSN? There's been a lot of numbers thrown around in here, so I apologize if it's already been listed.
From what I could find, it's about $100 million per year.

http://www.bizofhockey.com/?option=c...d=141&Itemid=1

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Some details from Sports Business Journal
-About 100 regular season games total between Versus and NBC
-NBC will air a game on the Friday after Thanksgiving.
-NBC/Versus will build NHL Network a new studio in Connecticut
Also and most importantly all playoff games will be televised nationally.
Close to Bristol undoubtedly. Looks like NBC/VS isn't playing around when it comes to taking on ESPN.....

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Also and most importantly all playoff games will be televised nationally.
In other words, all playoff games will be blacked-out on NHL GameCenter.

That does it. I'm definitely not re-upping that package for next season.

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Also and most importantly all playoff games will be televised nationally.
How can they do this? Use other cable channels like USA?

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Some details from Sports Business Journal
-About 100 regular season games total between Versus and NBC
-NBC will air a game on the Friday after Thanksgiving.
-NBC/Versus will build NHL Network a new studio in Connecticut

Also and most importantly all playoff games will be televised nationally.

Any idea about local exclusions, e.g., for the local rights holders to team broadcasts? I'm guessing there will be.

Also would like to know how they plan on choosing the 100 reg season games, limits per team, etc. Do you know how many are broadcast now?

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This. Being on the same network as one of the fastest growing sports in the world definitely won't hurt, especially given the UFC's demographics.

Also, does anyone know what the NHL is getting from CBC and TSN? There's been a lot of numbers thrown around in here, so I apologize if it's already been listed.

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Versus broadcast 78 regular season games this season after 65 the year before. NBC broadcast 10 games this season, so it's an increase of 12.

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Any idea about local exclusions, e.g., for the local rights holders to team broadcasts? I'm guessing there will be.

Also would like to know how they plan on choosing the 100 reg season games, limits per team, etc. Do you know how many are broadcast now?
Lepore is reporting the second round now moves exclusively to Versus.

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How can they do this? Use other cable channels like USA?

They'd better hope that VS gets on a tier 1 cable package. I know the the ratings in Michigan take a huge hit when games are on VS as compared to FSD broadcasts as many homes don't have the channel. When you get the playoff games on NBC, these are much higher, by almost a factor of 2-3 as the homes w/o cable access can tune in.

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MattBarnabyESPN 8:32am via ‹berSocial No RT @DougAnderson9: @Buccigross In regards to TV contract, could ESPN still get a "game of the week" or something like that?




Just to put an end to that speculation.
Thursday night hockey on ESPN.. makes sense.

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I have a question that might be worth thinking about. Because Comcast/NBC/Versus won the deal, could they add another network to the coverage that is already in the NBC Family of networks. I am thinking mainly about USA, as I would like to see another network pick up at least the playoffs so all series can be represented somehow, like this year with the Ducks and Preds. Also, while it's not necessarily a match made in heaven, what about a cross promotion between the NHL and the WWE, from a promotional standpoint only. I'm talking mainly just advertising the NHL on Monday Night Raw (And Tough Enough maybe) which might bring in a lot of new viewers. It's kind of a silly thought, but I think it makes a little sense.

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Close to Bristol undoubtedly. Looks like NBC/VS isn't playing around when it comes to taking on ESPN.....
Stamford actually, just outside of NYC. That is where Versus has their studios currently.

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Lepore is reporting the second round now moves exclusively to Versus.

I'm losing track of how things go right now. Are they still split for the second round currently?

If yes, the local broadcasters are going to be spitting dummies. FSD is signed with the Wings through 2020. If this deal means they only get 1st round of the playoffs..... Honestly, can the NHL be accused of behaving like a cartel in this situation too?

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The NHL continues to do everything possible to stay off ESPN

Seriously, all my buddies in California don't even seem to know these networks the NHL ends up on. Except NBC, of course who will broadcast a couple of Ranger/Detroit playoff games after forcing them on a 1PM timeslot on a Sunday. We all know that's the NHL's sweet spot, after all it worked before, right?

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god i hate versus. the last thing i want is more games for them

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I'm losing track of how things go right now. Are they still split for the second round currently?

If yes, the local broadcasters are going to be spitting dummies. FSD is signed with the Wings through 2020. If this deal means they only get 1st round of the playoffs..... Honestly, can the NHL be accused of behaving like a cartel in this situation too?
Versus currently gets two games of each 2nd round series exclusively.

The NHL is doing what the NBA does it looks like.

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Every playoff game period will be on either NBC, VERSUS or another NBC/Comcast channel, so every playoff game will air nationally.
http://puckthemedia.wordpress.com/20...-nhl-nbc-call/

Get ready for the Stanley Cup playoffs on Bravo! Still good news.

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I will give props to VS for how the coverage has improved since the start. It took a few years but the VS broadcast is actually pretty good now.

And I hate ESPN with a passion. Any network that doesn't give hockey (a real sport) the time of day but shows poker, bowling, golf, tennis, basketball pretty much all day can disappear into the abyss for all I care. However, I do miss national hockey night. Bill Clement, Gary Thorne, the goalie masks with the team logos and that awesome intro music. Brings back such good memories. So I guess in that sense I was kinda pulling for ESPN here. Although they would have probably found a way to screw it up.
I initially thought I wanted ESPN to win this. I miss National Hockey Night, as it was the driving vehicle behind my exposure to hockey on television in highschool. Prior to that, I listened to everything on the radio. I also miss NHL2nite with Buccigross and Chicken Parm. However, ESPN has really treated hockey like ****. Tuning in to Sportscenter to get NHL highlights, is like, the biggest joke every. A real slap in the face. I never even watch ESPN anymore. Outside of Monday Night Football, and some of the college hockey tournament...it doesn't show any programming that I'm even remotely interested in. Versus has been great. I wish they'd come up with a top notch highlight show a la Sportscenter. I think they could give that entire network a run for their money in every aspect.

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Versus currently gets two games of each 2nd round series exclusively.

The NHL is doing what the NBA does it looks like.



http://puckthemedia.wordpress.com/20...-nhl-nbc-call/

Get ready for the Stanley Cup playoffs on Bravo! Still good news.
Yeah, except the NBA gets $900 MM. Has the NHL exec group ever had an original idea?



Honestly, that really sucks. I'm going to manipulate a Cdn postal code so I can get the CBC instead. Not happy to have more of my team's playoff games absconded by TV guys who cannot appreciate the team. (especially Edzo who would rather eat live frogs than say something nice about the Wings)

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The NHL continues to do everything possible to stay off ESPN

Seriously, all my buddies in California don't even seem to know these networks the NHL ends up on. Except NBC, of course who will broadcast a couple of Ranger/Detroit playoff games after forcing them on a 1PM timeslot on a Sunday. We all know that's the NHL's sweet spot, after all it worked before, right?
The NHL doesn't really need fans who are too dumb to use a TV guide to figure out where to watch the games.

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VERSUS will air 90 exclusive games next year. They aired 77 total last year, but 25 were bonus games. This will be 90 games airing exclusively in home markets.

So 15 games each for the Pens, Rangers, Wings, Hawks, Flyers and Bruins.

Waiting to hear FSD demanding a refund.

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The NHL doesn't really need fans who are too dumb to use a TV guide to figure out where to watch the games.

No, they just need fans who actually have that tier of cable or satellite service.

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