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04-23-2011, 07:02 PM
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I'll take Keenan over ReTort all day.
Keenan's out of work too.....

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04-23-2011, 07:03 PM
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This guy tries to coach with angry faces alone. How many timeouts did he call just to have the team look at his frown in silence. That's not coaching.
Mike Keenan called a timeout in Game 6 of the ECF in '94, not a word was said. It was the best timeout he ever took. Sometimes no words is better then flipping out on a team or even instructing them. It lets the players know that they need to find it within themselves to fix the problem, cause the coach can't just repeat the same things over and over again and expect different results. That's referred to as insanity.

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04-23-2011, 07:04 PM
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Id try Mess on the bench with Graves before watching Torts and Sullivan have no in game answers to anything.

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04-23-2011, 07:18 PM
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Id try Mess on the bench with Graves before watching Torts and Sullivan have no in game answers to anything.
I'd argue having in game answers starts with having the personnel to do so.

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04-23-2011, 07:21 PM
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I think that regardless of what fans do or do not want, Torts will get at least half a season with whatever roster the Rangers roll out next season before his job is in jeopardy

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04-23-2011, 07:44 PM
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Torts is nowhere near perfect but you can't pin this on him.

We are in Sather pergatory for his sins of past years.

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04-23-2011, 07:46 PM
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I think Torts did a fine job with the team this year. And he's the first one to admit that the Rangers have a lot of work to do, that I like.

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04-23-2011, 08:37 PM
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torts all but said that he doesnt have the horses.

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04-23-2011, 08:53 PM
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“My gut tells me we’re going to have a good game.” - Coach John Tortorella


Don't listen to your stomach Torts, it lies.

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04-23-2011, 08:59 PM
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I disagree that Tortorella doesn't have the horses. I've said this before, but I expect somewhat of a return to "safe is death" next year. It's hard to hang a team this young out to dry with that kind of style. Now that they've had some experience and some success, it would surprise me if he didn't air it out some more. The talent level on this team is not as bad as people make it seem. We have 3 legitimate 2nd line talents and 2 legitimate first line talents. With more confidence and freedom from our defensemen, I expect a highly entertaining team next year.

The one thing that Tortorella needs to do, however, is bring in a full-time PP coach. Him handling it on his own is not working.

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04-23-2011, 10:44 PM
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There's a reason this guy was out of work when we picked him up.
This is a dumb statement.

Peter Laviolette was out of work too before the Philthy hired him.

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04-23-2011, 10:53 PM
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“My gut tells me we’re going to have a good game.” - Coach John Tortorella


Don't listen to your stomach Torts, it lies.
What do you want him to say? Something negative?

"It's not going to look good today." or "They're the second best team in the league, but we'll try to play well."

At least he's been mostly positive.

Last year when he was all pissy, people *****ed. When the dude lightens up, those same ones still *****.

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04-23-2011, 11:11 PM
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I dont understand the Keenan love. He's Tortorella on cocaine. Guy would trade away half the roster and ruin the confidance of all our kids.

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04-24-2011, 12:11 AM
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This is a dumb statement.

Peter Laviolette was out of work too before the Philthy hired him.
Have you seen the roster Laviolette came into?

Anyway, I hope no one tries to defend going back to the line combos that didn't work for the other 3 losses.

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04-24-2011, 05:51 AM
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Tortorella's contract renewed. No surprise here.

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WASHINGTON — The process of building the Rangers so they aren’t left bringing knives to a gunfight, the way they were in this playoff confrontation with the Capitals, will continue with John Tortorella behind the bench, The Post has learned.

Sources have told The Post that Tortorella’s contract, originally due to expire after this season, was extended a couple of months ago.

Garden and Rangers executives cited policy in declining comment, but it is believed that the extension will cover the next three seasons. Tortorella, who was hired on Feb. 23, 2009, has taken the Blueshirts to the playoffs twice in three years, but his teams have gone out in the first round both times, and both times to the Capitals.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...#ixzz1KQrRPL2x

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Its the Garden M.O. now to allow execs/coaches to enter the last year of their contract and then make a decision on their futures. With a 3 year extension,Torts has enough room to continue with the current program of using young players.

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04-24-2011, 08:39 AM
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You don't fire a coach who gets the most out of his team. End of story.

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04-24-2011, 09:53 AM
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The team needs a major change/shakeup if we want to get back to cup contenders.
So take your choice
- Big first line/top D trade
- New management
- New coach

Frankly the team is not cellar dwelling because of 1 person - Lundquist.
Remove him from the team and you have Islanders team season.

But don't argue that no changes are needed something has to change unless the rangers are happy to continue collecting your ticket money and really don't care about the quality of on ice competition.

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04-24-2011, 10:12 AM
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You fire a coach when you're expected to do big things but continue to fail.

So wake me up when he Rangers are cup contenders but they keep losing in the first round.

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04-24-2011, 11:07 AM
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What do you want him to say? Something negative?

"It's not going to look good today." or "They're the second best team in the league, but we'll try to play well."

At least he's been mostly positive.

Last year when he was all pissy, people *****ed. When the dude lightens up, those same ones still *****.

Lighten up francis, its a joke. Thought it was pretty obvious.

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04-24-2011, 11:08 AM
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You don't fire a coach who gets the most out of his team. End of story.
This.

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04-24-2011, 11:16 AM
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I like him, I would not extend him for 3 years.

I think his line combos sucked and we could've had different results.

Blame Torts for the proper support of Gaborik.
Don't blame Torts for McCabe being placed in his lineup.
Blame Torts for his treatment of Avery and Wolski.
Don't blame Torts for the unlucky bounces and shiddy reffing.
Blame Torts for his lack of emphasis on net protection and whatever it was he called a powerplay.
Don't blame him for any time one of his players passed up a necessary body check.

I wouldn't fire him, but I wouldn't give him more than a 2 year extension.

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04-24-2011, 11:19 AM
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You don't fire a coach who gets the most out of his team. End of story.
You mean you don't think this was a cup caliber team?!

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04-24-2011, 11:24 AM
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Rangers extend torts

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Sources have told The Post that Tortorella’s contract, originally due to expire after this season, was extended a couple of months ago.
http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers...-rss&FEEDNAME=

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According to the New York Post, New York Rangers coach John Tortorella has signed "what is believed to be" a three-year extension to remain behind the bench with the club. Tortorella's contract was set to expire at the end of the season.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/n...e=NHLHeadlines


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04-24-2011, 11:26 AM
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Sounds good to me. If given the players, I am confident that Tortorella can have great success as the coach of this team.

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