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04-24-2011, 08:49 AM
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The "If" Thread

If we had Josh, Andrei and Max in our line up would it make a really big difference in this series? Now don't get me wrong I am not trying to find excuses because even our team now can beat Boston I just want to hear your opinions.

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04-24-2011, 08:52 AM
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Honestly, we will ever know. Anything can happen in a game.. So to say we'd be better.. or worse off. There is no way to know.

What if Pacioretty never showed up in the post-season?

There are so many obstacles to look at.. on paper, sure we'd be better off.. it would help.

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Let me see now...we lose our best defenseman, our top forward and our 3rd best defenseman would it make a difference? That is a tough one...Take Chara and Bergeron off the Bruins to go with Savard and we sweep them in 4 straight.

We lose Markov for whole year, Gorges most the year and Pacioretty down the stretch and finish with 96 points. That is a 105 point team

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You can also say the same for the Bruins if they had Savard.

Ifs don't get wins.

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let's see...
If we had Gorges, Gorges and Gill would be matched against Horton and Lucic line giving Subban an easier matchup. That way Subban would have more energy to play offensively.
If we had Markov we would have two good waves on the power play, and Hamrlik would be on the third pairing against lesser opponents.
If we had Patches we woould have 2 well balanced top lines with a much stronger third line, maybe Pouliot-DD-Eller.
However the games are not played in a hypothetical world. I believe we are due to take game 6 in Mtl and force an epic game 7 in Boston.

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Just add Pacioretty to the mix and the habs upgrade their killer instinct skill by 200%. That means we win in 4. But "ifs" just makes me more angry at the outcomes of the last 2 games.

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04-24-2011, 09:14 AM
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You can never know what would happen. It sure looks better on paper though;

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Kostitsyn
Moen - Gomez - Gionta
Pyatt - Desharnais - White
Halpern - Eller - Darche

Hamrlik - Wiz
Gill - Subban
Spacek - Sopel

VS.

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Kostitsyn
Pacioretty - Gomez - Gionta
Pyatt - Desharnais - Darche
Moen - Eller - Halpern
* If only Pouliot didn't suck. .. I'd still try the PHD line with Desharnais on Eller's wing with Pyatt. Moen brings toughness, but that 4th line would be flying.

Markov - Wiz
Gill - Gorges
Hamrlik - Subban

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04-24-2011, 09:17 AM
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Don't do the if game guys, every team can do this...that being said, we know Markov is the one guy that makes a huge difference to our team...

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Let me see now...we lose our best defenseman, our top forward and our 3rd best defenseman would it make a difference? That is a tough one...Take Chara and Bergeron off the Bruins to go with Savard and we sweep them in 4 straight.

We lose Markov for whole year, Gorges most the year and Pacioretty down the stretch and finish with 96 points. That is a 105 point team
Some may disagree, saying it's all conjecture. I do not. You are correct. I stand by my opinion. This series would be over it Patches had never been hit. I do not even include Marky and Josh in that picture.

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We'd have already beaten the Bruins.

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What if Martin put Desharnais on Gomez's line earlier instead of putting 2 guys with zero skill on that line for 5 games.

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If they didn't change their style of play to impress the home crowd and stick with conservative road game system...

No need for the injured players. Ruins had their back against the wall with confidence on the ground. They couldn't score. But then Habs decided to play run and gun hockey...


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Even without all the injured players (which 100% would have won us the series quickly), Cammy hits that breakaway in game 4, we score on the PP at the end.

Game 5 if Darche doesn't hit the crossbar, if AK doesn't hit the post, if the cammy doesn't hit Chara's leg when there's plenty of net open, etc.

We could have won this series many times. We didn't cuz of the things that just didn't go out way. Meantime they are getting the most golden chances that are impossible to screw up...even Moen would have buried them.

The big question is what WILL happen next? Will we start getting the breaks?

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If the Habs played the way they did in Games 1 and 2, during games 3 and 4, last night would have never happened.

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We would have already won.

and its a piss off.

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We'd have already beaten the Bruins.

If the Bruins had Savard the Bruins would have won in 4 straight.

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If the Bruins had Savard the Bruins would have won in 4 straight.
Caps would have beat us last year too, if they had Ovechkin, Backstrom and Semin, and managed to score over 100 goals more then the Habs during the season.

Oh wait...

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If we had Josh, Andrei and Max in our line up would it make a really big difference in this series? Now don't get me wrong I am not trying to find excuses because even our team now can beat Boston I just want to hear your opinions.
That's an interesting way of looking at things.

So - what IF the Pens had not been missing Crosby & Malkin for half the season due to injury where would they be?

If the Habs had drafted (in 2003) Carter or Parise or Getzlaf or Richards or Perry or Kesler instead of Kostitsyn where would that put them?

And, IF the Habs had drafted (in 2006) Claude Giroux and Milan Lucic over David Fisher and Ben Maxwell where would that put them?

Just askin'

Then again....If my aunt had testicles - she'd be my uncle!

So..........what do you guys think?......about my aunt possibly being my uncle?




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If they were all in the lineup? We likely would have been playing a different team in the 1st rd...and have home ice advantage.

But things are what they are.

All I can honestly say, is that next year, with them all back in the lineup, and the progression made by Price, Subban and Eller...

We'll have a heck of a good team that can compete with anyone. There's obviously some work to be done on the blueline, and the possibility of moving Gomez to make some room for Eller, Desharnais and hopefully another centre, but overall, I like the work done thus far by Gainey and Gauthier and I can see a Cup contender NEXT SEASON

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Caps would have beat us last year too, if they had Ovechkin, Backstrom and Semin, and managed to score over 100 goals more then the Habs during the season.

Oh wait...
Yea but they didn't have Savard.


or


Markov

or


Gorges



or


Pacioretty



or




wait........... it doesn't matter, you play with who you have same as any team.

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Habs have a good team...they have been overhit by key injuries. Winning a Cup takes a bit of luck. Nothing you can do about it. Part of the game.

Keep the core together for next year, fine tune it for sure. Hamrlik has lost a step, at 37 and a big contract he needs to go. Trade Kostitsyn and Spacek for picks in next year's draft, replace them with young players, frees up 6 million. Also add a goal scorer at next year's trade deadline

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IF they did not have Thomas we would of won in 4 games.

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Too many IF's.
IF we had markov and gorges we wouldn't have gotten Sopel, Wiz and Mara.
It's also possible we would not have brought up Patches or DD in the first place depending on how we would be doing with that core. We could have used resources to acquire a forward instead of bringing one up. If we play our game we have a chance in this series thats all.

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We would have already won.

and its a piss off.
I disagree. We'd definately be better and probably be ahead in the series but Boston is still good enough that we wouldn't sweep them.

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Would have been able to do some different trades for sure.

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