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Do you want Brad Richards?

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Yes! He kills two birds with one stone. #1 center and PPQB. Plus he is an elite playmaker. 143 61.37%
No! He is 31 and injury prone and our FA history has not been very good. 28 12.02%
Not sure...maybe if it's for a 3-5 year deal but nothing more. 62 26.61%
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04-24-2011, 10:22 PM
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If he helps get us a Cup before he's 37/38 do you care?

He's an amazing player, and a huge solution to one of our glaring problems.

And yes, he still will be producing at 37/38. (55-80 pts? not great but not terrible).

No ... but Richards alone doesnt make us a contender.

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04-24-2011, 10:23 PM
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I'd rather give him 3/24 than 5/35. Not sure how well that'd fit or if it's feasible but I think the less years, the better. You want to sign 24 year olds to long contracts, not 30 year olds.
That would be ideal but he won't do it. This is his chance to cash in big time for long term, who knows if he'll get that type of money again when the 3 years is up. Plus with the concussion now, he'll wanna guarantee money for years as you never know what could happen.

I'm on the Richards bandwagon but I'm not giving him more than 5 years.

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04-24-2011, 10:26 PM
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I've said this ad nauseum in the offseason thread, but I'll say it again here. Brad Richards is the type of player who is not available in free agency very often. He is one of the top 20 forwards in the game, he is a clutch player, he has a great relationship with our coach, and he fits our two biggest needs (a true #1 center and a PP quarterback).

I understand we've been burned in the past by giving out huge contracts to guys who weren't elite players, but that is not the case here. Big contracts are ok for the right players, and Richards is the right player.

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04-24-2011, 11:02 PM
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Anything more than 4 years will turn into trouble. Even 4 might be trouble.

If you MUST get him for 5 years, it better be without a NMC and with little money left on that last year or two. We will not and CAN NOT be stuck with ANOTHER Drury or Redden later on.

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04-24-2011, 11:06 PM
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The market is going to dictate the terms. A player of
Brad Richards caliber hasn't hit the ufa market in a long time, a lot of the players that have the traits that Richards are usually signed to long term high salary contracts. I think that it's in Brads best interest to get security in a contract, they are garunteed, and knhow long will you be making

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04-24-2011, 11:15 PM
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The market is going to dictate the terms. A player of
Brad Richards caliber hasn't hit the ufa market in a long time, a lot of the players that have the traits that Richards are usually signed to long term high salary contracts. I think that it's in Brads best interest to get security in a contract, they are garunteed, and knowing how long will you be making a certain salary to do what you love and excel at is a very enticing thing to any man. He is going to get a frontloaded long term (7-8) year contract offer from somebody, now the question is how badly do you want Brad? If he is willing to sign for something like 8/42 with the bulk of it being frontloaded? Let's say 10 millIon the first year sign me up. I would be hopeful for that. From the mouth of Joe Michaletti : Brad richards loves to golf (one of the reasons Carolina was listed as one of his choices), he spends a month in the summer time in long island, he is a torts kind of guy, likes playing for him. He knows he is needed and wanted here, I think he will be wearing blue on July 1st.

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04-24-2011, 11:28 PM
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I WANT Brad Richards for 5+ years. I feel we'll be a very dangerous club for his entire tenure here.

I like

Richards
Anisimov
Stepan
Boyle

and then...

Stepan
Anisimov
Richards
Boyle

more than ANY richardsless line-up.

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Anything more than 4 years will turn into trouble. Even 4 might be trouble.

If you MUST get him for 5 years, it better be without a NMC and with little money left on that last year or two. We will not and CAN NOT be stuck with ANOTHER Drury or Redden later on.
Yup, gotta front load it big time. The team already front loads the big contracts but not enough. Should do it like Briere's contract in Philly, after making a ton early on, he makes 3 million and 2 million in the final two years respectively.

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04-24-2011, 11:32 PM
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Yup, gotta front load it big time. The team already front loads the big contracts but not enough. Should do it like Briere's contract in Philly, after making a ton early on, he makes 3 million and 2 million in the final two years respectively.
Sather has repeatedly gone on record stating he does not believe in those kinds of contracts.

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Where is this "Richards is Injury Prone" Garbage coming from?

Broken wrist from a check Voracek in February 2009.

Broke the other hand a month later.

Arthroscopic hip surgery in April of last year for a small labrum tear.

Concussion this year.

HOW IS ANY OF THAT INJURY PRONE?
Mmmmm players breakdown after a certain age... somethings they once shrugged off become real problems... its certainly a concern if hes looking at a long term deal

Brad Richards at 2 yrs would be the best. But that's rarely how it works, unless he's dying to live in Manhattan or Scardael for some reason and thats not likely at his age. The guy will have several options July 1st...

My $$$ is if anyone gets a sweetheart 2 year deal its going to be Tampa

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As long as the contract is reasonable and we are in the position to do so, ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY. Guys like him don't hit free agency often, and he fits this team's needs like a glove.

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I think Sather means the 11 year type of contracts.


I see no problem with something like

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or something like that.

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I think Sather means the 11 year type of contracts.


I see no problem with something like

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or something like that.
Yeah those type of deals. Front loading the contract heavily is just so you're able to trade them to teams like Phoenix who just care about how much money they're making, not the cap number. The deals he hates are those long ones that exploit the cap.

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I think Sather means the 11 year type of contracts.


I see no problem with something like

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or something like that.
I'd certainly be down...but good luck getting him to sign for that.

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Sather has repeatedly gone on record stating he does not believe in those kinds of contracts.
and Sather is feeling the burn of Drurys deal today....

but it's really not his fault entirely. The market is what it is come July 1st. Briere/Drury/Gomez was a tough sign for any GM. In hindsight we should have just signed one of Drury/Gomez and somehow kept Nylander to play with Jagr....

To me thats the window of opportunity Sather blew. Should have gone one more year with Straka Nylander Jagr and signed Drury as the 2nd line C.....

if I remember right though Nylander wanted to cash in on a career year and he wanted too many years, and would not budge... guys got 8 kids who can blame him...

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No-brainer: HAVE to sign him if he's available.

It's so difficult to compete in today's NHL without a top-notch playmaker, especially at Center.

Plus he has great natural skills. Plus he is, for right now, an automatic point-producer. Plus he can play with anybody.

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I'd certainly be down...but good luck getting him to sign for that.
Well yeah but you know what I mean. I hope Sather does something like that.

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We need him. I'm sure Slats wants him.

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Where is this "Richards is Injury Prone" Garbage coming from?

Broken wrist from a check Voracek in February 2009.

Broke the other hand a month later.

Arthroscopic hip surgery in April of last year for a small labrum tear.

Concussion this year.

HOW IS ANY OF THAT INJURY PRONE?

He's played in 80 or more games in each season from 2000 to 2008. 5 of those of which were the complete 82 games. He played 80 games and 72 games respectively in the last 2 years.

In 2008-2009 when he suffered the broken wrists. That's the very definition of FREAK INJURY. He's human just like the rest of us. It's extremely easy to break a wrist.

He's a year removed from a very minor hip surgery. Yes, labrums can take a while to heal, but you can play through it. A-Rod and Chase Utley did.

And a Concussion. So ****ing what? The way some people react here, if he had the most minor of concussions he'd be a huge risk and an injury prone player... It's just one concussion. ONE.

Brad Richards is durable as ****. End of story.
Yeah by all that stupid logic about him being injury prone, so is Callahan, or Dubinsky. Better not sign them in the offseason!

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Since I am not sure, did Richards and Torts have a good relationship in Tampa? As I feel some guys are Torts guys and others are 100% not Torts guys.

I voted yes.

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I hate to be the party pooper, but I don't think getting Richards will solve anything. He's not the same player since his injury this season and I don't think he will fit on this team.

It's Mike Richards we need, not Brad if we want to play grinding hockey. If we can get a skill line going with Richards and Gaborik who can play more east-west, it might be worth a try, but if they have to play our dump and giveaway game, no.

A long, expensive contract will bite us in the ass.

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Since I am not sure, did Richards and Torts have a good relationship in Tampa? As I feel some guys are Torts guys and others are 100% not Torts guys.

I voted yes.
Yes they did have a good relationship. Torts is going to be the reason he signs here over other places.

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I would love to see him in a blue shirt BUT not on a 7year deal. 5years 6.5 per I would be cool with

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No ... but Richards alone doesnt make us a contender.
Nope. And unfortunately, his contract will make it very difficult to fill other needs.

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Nope. And unfortunately, his contract will make it very difficult to fill other needs.
Trades are going to be needed more than ever for us...draft day will be huge.

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