I'm liking the Versteeg trade more and more now. Funny the leafs even lose when they are not in the playoffs since there draft picks sinks more and more as we go farther into the playoffs
I want to know what you think your Roster will look like next season. What is likely?
I wonder cause I want to know how many $$ is left for a Goalie if Bob is 1 of them and Leighton again in the A.
Cap may be 62.2 next season.
Thanks
Late to the party here... and have not really gone through he prior posts.
Worked out these players and numbers before looking t the 62.2 est Cap suggested.
FORWARDS (14)
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Briere $6.5
Richards 5.7
Carter 5.273
Hartnell 4.2
Giroux 3.75
Versteeg 3.083
Leino [2.7] Est
Zerdev x Not offered contract
JvR 1.654
Lappy x (1.167) LTI
Shelley 1.1
Carcillo x Not offered contract
Nodl [1.0] Est
Powe [0.85] Est
Holmstrum 0.75
Betts 0.7
Rinaldo 0.544 Replaces Carcillo as agitator
GOALIES (2)
___________
Bobrovsky 1.75
Leighton x (1.55) AHL
Boucher [1.0] Est
Total against Cap = $64.795M
Est Cap* = 62.2
Cap space = (2.595)
* Est Cap used is from opening post and only $2.8M above 2010-11 Cap... IMO very conservative
... Obviously my numbers bring the Flyers Cap to too high a total, even if the Cap is somewhat higher... There must be a contingency and the Cap hit has to be below the allowed Cap no matter what.
Walker could be demoted but a best that could net only $1M reduction... Boucher could not be brought back, but IMO a veteran goalie would have to be signed and at best only $0.2M would be saved, and maybe Boosh could be signed for the $0.8M
Powe could not be replaced by much smaller a contract... Maybe Leino could be signed for less, but not much less IMO.
...It appears that a larger contract has to be moved for a smaller return or prospects/picks... Maybe Hartnell (sadly) could be talked into waiving his NTC... It seems that a D-man my have to be moved and I believe Homer wants both Carle and Coburn, BUT one would have to be the one to make a large enough dent.
And this is of course not messing much with he committed contracted... Within the restraints of the NM/NT Contracts Homer could make a more drastic revamping of the roster... but the way this team is constructed, I'd honestly hate to see it blown up.
I'd guess/hope the above with at most Hartnell and Carle moved with young players taking their spots... But imagine that I am entirely off base.
EDIT:
Failed to bring up that the Rinaldo spot is a reach to fill Carcillo's agitator role... Rinaldo would of course have to be mature enough and NHL ready... If not, they would have to sign a player that is much cheaper than Carcillo would demand.
sorry, but that's awful! if we go with Bob and Theo, I wont be cheering for this team
Did you cheer this year with Boosh and Leights as possibilities? LOL
How about this one....
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Curtis Glencross ($1.300m) Matt Bradley OR Evgeni Artuyukin ($1.000m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m)
Andreas Nodl ($0.800m) / Vernon Fiddler ($1.000m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m)
DEFENSEMEN
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Matt Carle ($3.437m) Steve Montador OR Marc Andre-Bergeron ($1.550m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($1.000m)
Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m) /
Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)
GOALTENDERS
Tomas Vokoun ($4.500m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $63,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,969,155; BONUSES: $1,700,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,030,845
I know it wouldn't happen, this is only b/c of Timmo gone. Which is needed IMO. Let some young guys compete and play in some games.... More speed on the 4th - with Fiddler and Nodl staying there. Toughness for the Carter/Giroux line with Art - if he'd come back from the KHL..... PP speicalest in MAB. Tower and smart player in Ericsson. Vok in nets. a guy can dream, right?
Did you cheer this year with Boosh and Leights as possibilities? LOL
How about this one....
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Curtis Glencross ($1.300m) Matt Bradley OR Evgeni Artuyukin ($1.000m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m)
Andreas Nodl ($0.800m) / Vernon Fiddler ($1.000m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m)
DEFENSEMEN
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Matt Carle ($3.437m) Steve Montador OR Marc Andre-Bergeron ($1.550m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($1.000m)
Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m) /
Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)
GOALTENDERS
Tomas Vokoun ($4.500m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $63,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,969,155; BONUSES: $1,700,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,030,845
I know it wouldn't happen, this is only b/c of Timmo gone. Which is needed IMO. Let some young guys compete and play in some games.... More speed on the 4th - with Fiddler and Nodl staying there. Toughness for the Carter/Giroux line with Art - if he'd come back from the KHL..... PP speicalest in MAB. Tower and smart player in Ericsson. Vok in nets. a guy can dream, right?
You guys really need to start adjusting the salaries of some of these players. No way in ******* hell will Glencross stay at 1.3M for putting up the season he just had. MAB is a huge defensive liability, but great on the PP. We don't need quantity (yet we do need a minimum 20 starters), I'd rather have quality.
Did you cheer this year with Boosh and Leights as possibilities? LOL
How about this one....
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Curtis Glencross ($1.300m) Matt Bradley OR Evgeni Artuyukin ($1.000m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m)
Andreas Nodl ($0.800m) / Vernon Fiddler ($1.000m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m)
DEFENSEMEN
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Matt Carle ($3.437m) Steve Montador OR Marc Andre-Bergeron ($1.550m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($1.000m)
Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m) /
Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)
GOALTENDERS
Tomas Vokoun ($4.500m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $63,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,969,155; BONUSES: $1,700,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,030,845
I know it wouldn't happen, this is only b/c of Timmo gone. Which is needed IMO. Let some young guys compete and play in some games.... More speed on the 4th - with Fiddler and Nodl staying there. Toughness for the Carter/Giroux line with Art - if he'd come back from the KHL..... PP speicalest in MAB. Tower and smart player in Ericsson. Vok in nets. a guy can dream, right?
FORWARDS
Andreas Nodl ($0.850m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m)
Ville Leino ($2.750m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / R.J. Umberger ($3.750m)
Matt Read ($0.900m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Darroll Powe ($0.725m)
/ Daniel Carcillo ($1.075m)
DEFENSEMEN
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / John Erskine ($1.500m)
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)
/ Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)
GOALTENDERS
Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m) / Semyon Varlamov ($0.850m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $58,831,655; BONUSES: $1,700,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $568,345
Obviously this lineup requires quite a few moves, notably..
Carle, Versteeg, and Hartnell traded (in some combination, possibly with other prospects) to WAS for S. Varlamov and J. Erskine.
I believe Bob with a little experience under his belt, and a fellow Russian as a back up, will solve the goaltending issue. I don't think we need a "Top 5" goaltender, just someone to support Bob and provide support. Varlamov has shown he is a capable goaltender in WAS when given starts and healthy.
FORWARDS
Andreas Nodl ($0.850m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m)
Ville Leino ($2.750m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / R.J. Umberger ($3.750m)
Matt Read ($0.900m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Darroll Powe ($0.725m)
/ Daniel Carcillo ($1.075m)
DEFENSEMEN
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / John Erskine ($1.500m)
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)
/ Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)
GOALTENDERS
Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m) / Semyon Varlamov ($0.850m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $58,831,655; BONUSES: $1,700,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $568,345
Obviously this lineup requires quite a few moves, notably..
Carle, Versteeg, and Hartnell traded (in some combination, possibly with other prospects) to WAS for S. Varlamov and J. Erskine.
I believe Bob with a little experience under his belt, and a fellow Russian as a back up, will solve the goaltending issue. I don't think we need a "Top 5" goaltender, just someone to support Bob and provide support. Varlamov has shown he is a capable goaltender in WAS when given starts and healthy.
Thoughts?
Curious, you do know that back in the World Juniors (don't know the year) both Varly and Bob were the goalies for Russia? Bob was Varly's back up.
Another kick at the can.... as it stands I think Bob is closer to handle the duties sooner than later... so Turco/Osgood/Auld someone with experience and is better/has been better than Boosh would be best.
I think I'd rather this team without Shelley TBH - but I like what he brings to the team, as slow as it is
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Antti Miettinen ($2.500m) <- - - -> or a cheaper player such as Glencross ? Zenon Konopka ($0.600m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m)
Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Vernon Fiddler ($1.100m) / Eric Belanger ($0.750m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) - minors would be helpful to help sign a bit better GK?
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Steve Montador ($1.550m)
Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)
GOALTENDERS
Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $63,000,000 ??; CAP PAYROLL: $61,114,988; BONUSES: $1,700,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,885,012 2.985
Last edited by dingbathero: 05-08-2011 at 08:52 PM.
Curious, you do know that back in the World Juniors (don't know the year) both Varly and Bob were the goalies for Russia? Bob was Varly's back up.
I'm aware. I believe it was 3-4 years ago. And that doesnt change the fact that Bob is arguably the better goalie today. In fact, I believe a lot of people said he was the better goalie back then as well, just not as experienced. However, Varly (at least in my eyes) is a fully capable goalie as well.
Washington's goalie "Problem"(3 Great goalies, wish we had that problem) will likely force at least one of them out this off season or at the deadline.
Matt Carle traded to the Bruins for Ryan Spooner + 2nd
New additions in bold.
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Ville Leino ($2.700m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Marty Reasoner ($1.000m) / Darroll Powe ($0.700m)
Tom Sestito ($0.577m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Braydon Coburn ($3.200m)
Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($1.000m)
GOALTENDERS Tomas Vokoun ($3.800m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,072,488; BONUSES: $1,700,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $127,512
I'm aware. I believe it was 3-4 years ago. And that doesnt change the fact that Bob is arguably the better goalie today. In fact, I believe a lot of people said he was the better goalie back then as well, just not as experienced. However, Varly (at least in my eyes) is a fully capable goalie as well.
Washington's goalie "Problem"(3 Great goalies, wish we had that problem) will likely force at least one of them out this off season or at the deadline.
Varly is very capable, but so far, he's been hit with the injury bug too much.
Trade: Philadelphia/Minnesota (Versteeg, Carle and Leighton - Nystrom and Burns) & then move Shelley, Nodl and Timonen to another team.
Free Agent Signings: Scottie Upshall, Steve MacIntyre, Marc-Andre Bergeron and Tomas Vokoun
Final Roster
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Ville Leino ($3.000m)
Eric Nystrom ($1.400m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Scottie Upshall ($2.000m)
Daniel Carcillo ($1.000m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Darroll Powe ($0.700m)
/ / Steve MacIntyre ($0.500m)
DEFENSEMEN
Marc-Andre Bergeron ($1.000m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Brent Burns ($3.550m) / Matt Walker ($1.700m)
/ Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)
GOALTENDERS
Tomas Vokoun ($4.000m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,148,322; BONUSES: $1,700,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $851,678
Trade: Philadelphia/Minnesota (Versteeg, Carle and Leighton - Nystrom and Burns) & then move Shelley, Nodl and Timonen to another team.
Free Agent Signings: Scottie Upshall, Steve MacIntyre, Marc-Andre Bergeron and Tomas Vokoun
Final Roster
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Ville Leino ($3.000m)
Eric Nystrom ($1.400m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Scottie Upshall ($2.000m)
Daniel Carcillo ($1.000m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Darroll Powe ($0.700m)
/ / Steve MacIntyre ($0.500m)
DEFENSEMEN
Marc-Andre Bergeron ($1.000m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Brent Burns ($3.550m) / Matt Walker ($1.700m)
/ Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)
GOALTENDERS
Tomas Vokoun ($4.000m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,148,322; BONUSES: $1,700,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $851,678
I doubt upshall signs for 2 mil when he is making 2.25 mil this year. Hell probably get something in the 2.75-3.0 range
1. Trade Carter for Brendan Morrow --> You get 1,5 m Cap Space and a powerfull winger. If Richards walk away from Dallas they need a new no1 Center. Morrow need a good team to show his playoff success, if you want to include a draft pick, do it yourself ;D.
2. Sign Konopka for ($0.900m) as free agent
3. Trade Versteeg and try to dump Shelley, Leighton or Walker with him. So you get only a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick because of salary dump. Carolina could use a rw like versteeg...
4. Sign Asham for ($0.900m)
5. Trade Carle to the Islanders and try to dump Shelley, Leighton or Walker with him.
Because of the salary dump within this trade you get a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick back.
6. Sign Sauer or Sekera for ($1,500m) or other cheap defensive dman who plays the body.
7. Sign Vokoun or Bryzgalov for ($5.00m) because i canīt imagine they will sign cheaper.
FORWARDS
Morrow ($4.100m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Ville Leino ($2.700m)
Asham ($0.900m)/ Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Andreas Nodl ($0.900m)
Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Konopka ($0.900m)/ Darroll Powe ($0.900m)
DEFENSEMEN
Chris Pronger ($4.921m) / Sekera(Sauer)($1.500m)
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Braydon Coburn ($3.200m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)
Bartulis ($0.600m)
GOALTENDERS
Vokoun(Bryzgalov) ($5.000m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
TOTALS
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,158,000;
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $1,242,000
If one or all of Leighton, Shelley, Walker stays in Philly send them to the Phantoms.
