Not from me they wouldn't. We ***** when they give us boilerplate interviews and then we ***** when they tell the truth.
That's total BS. Come on man... there's a difference between being truthful in a press conference AFTER THE GAME... and verbally laying down 30 minutes into the game.
Quote:
And, I don't speak for anyone else other than myself. I thought Ruff handled this series media-wise very well. I don't begrudge anyone giving an honest interview, especially while his team is getting the crap kicked out of him.
Only Lindy Ruff could create that type of response from the fan base... it's insane
Quote:
Maybe we've become conditioned to expect them to lie about everything, take every opportunity to spin and play politics that this seems so terrible. To me it was a moment of honesty and an admission to the truth, that his guys had given this everything they had and didn't have enough to match the Flyers no matter how much we would like for it to have been otherwise.
That type of honesty belongs in the lockerroom AFTER the game... this is total crazy talk from you. i dont believe you ever would have held this opinion of "honesty" behind the bench, during game 7, in the 2nd period.... until Ruff did it. Before he did it, were you previously thinking:
"Hey guys, you know what I want more of in sports... I want my coach to openly admit that his team doesn't have a chance mid way through game 7, on live tv... yea, cuz I respect that kind of honesty"
Quote:
If you want to crucify him for it, be my guest. I would expect nothing less than that from the guy who single-handedly wants to ensure Ruff never coaches in Buffalo again.
With a Deep Pocket new owner... I want Ruff to stay. There won't be anymore excuses. He earned another contract with the way he turned things around this year. I think his 2nd half coaching was Jack Adams worthy... I also think his playoff performance was typical.
That's total BS. Come on man... there's a difference between being truthful in a press conference AFTER THE GAME... and verbally laying down 30 minutes into the game.
Only Lindy Ruff could create that type of response from the fan base... it's insane
That type of honesty belongs in the lockerroom AFTER the game... this is total crazy talk from you. i dont believe you ever would have held this opinion of "honesty" behind the bench, during game 7, in the 2nd period.... until Ruff did it. Before he did it, were you previously thinking:
"Hey guys, you know what I want more of in sports... I want my coach to openly admit that his team doesn't have a chance mid way through game 7, on live tv... yea, cuz I respect that kind of honesty"
With a Deep Pocket new owner... I want Ruff to stay. There won't be anymore excuses. He earned another contract with the way he turned things around this year. I think his 2nd half coaching was Jack Adams worthy... I also think his playoff performance was typical.
Frankly Jame, I never cared one way or the other about in-game interviews and their content other than that they are boring and irrelevant. Period. What Ruff did doesn't bother me. It bothers you. Fine.
I think, like many things, the reactions by people to what others they have a strong opinion about say/do are a reflection of their conformational bias about that person and nothing more. You want to find fault and so they do. End of line. It's true in sports/politics what have you.
He gave that interview and I didn't give it a second thought until it was brought up by people. When I thought back on it I said, "Yeah, whatever. He was honest. They were losing and likely going to."
I checked out of that game when the Flyers went up 2-0, tbh. And only watched to the end out of respect for what they had achieved to that point. From the looks of it, so did most of the Sabres. At that point, and in that circumstance, it is out of the coach's hands no matter what we'd like to believe otherwise. Trying to blame Ruff's interview for the loss or even lack of effort is really thin. They were spent and didn't have enough to match the Flyers who played without a doubt the best hockey I'd seen them play since the Boston series last year.
I think for a team 7 seed to play 6 one goal games witha 2 seed and can't even get motivated to PLAY during game 7, a LOT of that is on the coach, I mean we could have JUST as easily won that game.....theres so many people saying "we were supposed to lose it was a 2-7 matchup, once you get to a game 7 (even 6) with the parody in this league, thats not an excuse.....we lost because the players who played were AFRAID to touch the puck and go get it, and philly went out there and every player wanted to contribute.....Lindy Ruff didn't mativate them at all....he should be gone.....we chased the goalie three or four times in the series aznd still lost, we played horrible with the lead except for the 2 shut outs........
If we accept your premise as valid, does that mean the same coach from late December until Easter was accomplishing that prior work via voodoo dolls and / or hypnotism?
Could it be instead the Sabres had spent 4+ months in the NHL equivalent of the Iditarod and, after starting from the last of the pack, were finally passed at the finish line by the Flyer sled because many of the Sabre sled dogs were either dead, injured, exhausted, and/or hadn't been fed in 3 days?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sand1138man
oh and for people who say to keep darcy, that series PROVED why he should be LONG GONE.....we were beat down by a player who wanted to stay in buffalo but couldn't because Darcy wanted to keep a player here who didn't want to be here and who left anyways.....skip ahead 3 years, Brierre turns a different team into a cup contender and wrecks us in the playoffs on the way.....
Has Regier ever publicly said HE PERSONALLY did NOT want to keep Briere?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sand1138man
Miller is good in big games, (carolina game 6 to get to game 7, philly game 1- 4 to tie series, and game 3 to go up by a game) US-canada first game where US won (3rd period vs philly to clinch playoff spot)
but not good enough in THE BIGGEST games, he always loses, Carolina game 7 (2 goals in 3rd period to blow lead), philly game 7 (enough said) Winter classic (lost) US canada gold metal game (lost)
For as amazing he is when everything isn't on the line, if we do want to win a stanley cup one day i wouldn't put my money on him in a game 7.
So, by that standard, is Cam Ward the peer of Dom Hasek, or better than Hasek?
Is Dwayne Roloson better than MAF?
By definition, 1 of 2 goalies will always lose every big game.
(btw, I love me some Rollie the Goalie! - dude's almost my age)
Quote:
Originally Posted by sand1138man
Vanek scored 2 goals in game 6 and we should have won that game to move on.....Vanek was the best player the two games he was in the last year in the playoffs,
IMO, WE PUT OUSELVES IN POSITION TO WIN THE SERIES AT HOME AND TOOK AN EARLY LEAD and then failed the rest of the series....I cant call that a good year, even if we did come back to make the playoffs.....
Pegula, Fire Ruff, Darcy, and new GM, get rid of Montador, morrison, connolly, give one more shot to roy, hecht, butler, pominvile
Build your team around Vanek Myers, Ennis, Gerbe, Enroth/Miller, Weber, ,gragnani, Sekera, gaustad, kaleta, play grier and Neids the third half of the season and then in the playoffs, play ellis more, pick up a GOOD center
==========================================
Not arguing, and not piling on to what others rebutted.
It's clear you're upset and/or disappointed.
This too, shall pass.
Has Regier ever publicly said HE PERSONALLY did NOT want to keep Briere?
I'm not convinced that the whole post-arbitration vindictiveness was all Quinn's doing, but at this point it's hard to know for sure one way or the other. If some of our current RFA's elect to go that route, we might get a chance to find out soon enough.
As for Ruff's interview with Pang, I agree with B_G, he was being honest and gave the Flyers credit, something you would never hear from Laviolette.
Maybe he didn't during the series but he was pretty complimentary in the aftermath:
Quote:
Flyers coach Peter Laviolette: "I just want to say what an incredible job the Buffalo Sabres did. They played really well down the stretch and got into the playoffs when they were way out at one point. It was really just a great job by their players and coaches to push it to seven games, when anything can happen. We got out of the first round, but they really did a great job so congratulations to their organization."
I'm not convinced that the whole post-arbitration vindictiveness was all Quinn's doing, but at this point it's hard to know for sure one way or the other.
Agreed - we will never know all the specifics but there were some comparable precedents that were reported, which Quinn insinuated in interviews that he disagreed with. McKee was one of the outspoken players during the lockout against the owners - as soon as the lockout was over, not only did McKee have to absorb the mandated league cutback percentage in his salary but the Sabres took advantage of another loophole in his contract that cut his pay further. He was never offered any extension at the end of the season. Briere was also quoted during the lockout a few times speaking out against the owners IIRC.
At this point, the entire Quinn era is a tired and beaten horse that just renews the frustration so many of us fans feel over past decisions he oversaw - but his M.O. during the time gives enough credence to think he was a primary part of the reason Briere was pushed out the door.
Lavi had that speech planned either way. You win, you sound complementary. You lose, you have an excuse that your team lost to a team that was better for a good chunk of the year.
