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04-28-2011, 06:07 PM
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rangers need to improve their offense and adding richards will help but he is only one player. they need another player that can score 65-75 pts. having 3 players that can do that will help this team...

Sharp and Dowell to the Rangers
Del Zotto, Anisimov first round pick in 12

Sharp makes 4.1 mil


sign Richards

trade or move Wolski's salary AHL if possible..


imagine
Stepan Richards Gaborik
Dubinsky Sharp Callahan
Fedotenko Boyle Prust
Avery Dowell Zucc

Staal Girardi
McDongah Sauer
Valentenko Kundratek McIlrath
Eminger (id resign him)

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04-28-2011, 06:15 PM
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rangers need to improve their offense and adding richards will help but he is only one player. they need another player that can score 65-75 pts. having 3 players that can do that will help this team...

Sharp and Dowell to the Rangers
Del Zotto, Anisimov first round pick in 12

Sharp makes 4.1 mil


sign Richards

trade or move Wolski's salary AHL if possible..


imagine
Sharp Richards Gaborik
Dubinsky Stepan Callahan
Fedotenko Boyle Prust
Avery Dowell Zucc

Staal Girardi
McDongah Sauer
Valentenko Kundratek McIlrath
Eminger (id resign him)
Fixed.

But I don't think Chicago does that.

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04-28-2011, 06:16 PM
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Perhaps we can also include the rights to Karel Rachunek?

Honestly, Sharp is a difference maker for the Hawks and one of their most valued forwards... You can't trade a struggling MDZ and an inconsistent Anisimov for a key player from another team. Unless the Hawks were looking to move Sharp, they're not going to trade quality for quantity either....

I would not advocate this trade, but think more along the lines of sending Dubinsky, one of our best prospects, and a pick their way.

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That is WAY too much for Sharp.

Del Zotto's value is at an all time low. It's stupid to trade him now. It's worth it to keep him and hope he bounces back and improves his game in his own end (which I think he will)

Anisimov was this team's second line center all season and increased his point totals from his rookie season. On his way to becoming one of the best two way centers in the game.

And you also want to give up a first rounder in a draft that's supposed to be the strongest since 2008? No way.

I like Sharp, but a HUGE pass for me.

EDIT: I'm apparently out of line from the responses so far. Sue me.

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04-28-2011, 06:23 PM
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Sharp isn't going anywhere - he's one of the real leaders on that team and he had the best season of his career. There's no way the Hawks would want to deal him.

I'd like to take a shot at Kopecky, though, who also had a career year and is a UFA.

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04-28-2011, 06:38 PM
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Sharp is almost as untradeable as Kane or Toews. There's a reason he wasn't shipped out last summer, and Buff, Ladd, and co. were.

He's not leaving there period.

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04-28-2011, 07:00 PM
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rangers need to improve their offense and adding richards will help but he is only one player. they need another player that can score 65-75 pts.
What's wrong with trying to sign Simon Gagne or even better Tomas Fleischmann. The latter having scored 82 pts in his last 104 games over the last two seasons.

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We are not prying Sharp from the Hawks without completely overpaying

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04-28-2011, 07:15 PM
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What's wrong with trying to sign Simon Gagne or even better Tomas Fleischmann. The latter having scored 82 pts in his last 104 games over the last two seasons.
Fleischmann is intriguing...he was playing lights out before he got hurt...put him on a line with Gabby.

2 years 5 million...not sure that gets it done...but worth a shot.

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04-28-2011, 07:29 PM
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fleischmann will want a bigger deal then we can afford/give. hes also coming off a season ending blood clot which is kind of a red flag for a bigger contract.

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What no one who's saying that the Blackhawks wouldn't be willing to move Sharp seem to be taking into account is the Hawks cap situation. Sharp will be a UFA after next year, and it's unlikely that they'll have room for him without moving one of their other big contracts.

They have $5m+ cap hits through 2015 due to Kane, Toews, Hossa, Campbell, Keith, and Seabrook. $36 million per year tied up in 6 players. And Sharp will be due for a big raise (currently making $3.9m).

This is a very doable deal. The question is would we want to give up that much youth for a guy who'll be a UFA after one season?

Personally, I say no. And I'm the guy who started the thread saying that we should see if we can get some top-end talent for a deal built around Anisimov. Then add DZ and 1st into the deal? No thanks.

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04-28-2011, 08:27 PM
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Yeah let's just turn the whole team upside down instead of letting them play together that works.

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04-28-2011, 08:31 PM
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What no one who's saying that the Blackhawks wouldn't be willing to move Sharp seem to be taking into account is the Hawks cap situation. Sharp will be a UFA after next year, and it's unlikely that they'll have room for him without moving one of their other big contracts.

They have $5m+ cap hits through 2015 due to Kane, Toews, Hossa, Campbell, Keith, and Seabrook. $36 million per year tied up in 6 players. And Sharp will be due for a big raise (currently making $3.9m).
How much money do you think he's going to get? $5-$5.5 mil seems plausible.... With the cap already going up $3 mil next season, I'd say they could squeeze him in. Although what happens when the CBA expires is your guess as good as mine.

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How much money do you think he's going to get? $5-$5.5 mil seems plausible.... With the cap already going up $3 mil next season, I'd say they could squeeze him in. Although what happens when the CBA expires is your guess as good as mine.
He'll get about $5.5, could be as much as $6. Even with the cap going up, that's still 2/3 of the payroll for 7 players.

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He'll get about $5.5, could be as much as $6. Even with the cap going up, that's still 2/3 of the payroll for 7 players.
True... That Campbell contract is real ugly (5 more seasons at $7.1 mil).... Hawks better hope there is some type of limited cap-exempt buy-out option instated in the new CBA....

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I'd offer my five dollars (Because my opinions are money, baby!) but some people would think it's too lopsided in favor of the Hawks.

Instead, maybe start off with Anisimov, Wolski, and a 1st.

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04-28-2011, 10:51 PM
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True... That Campbell contract is real ugly (5 more seasons at $7.1 mil).... Hawks better hope there is some type of limited cap-exempt buy-out option instated in the new CBA....
Hoping for this to get rid of Redden if he does not leave.

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What's wrong with trying to sign Simon Gagne or even better Tomas Fleischmann. The latter having scored 82 pts in his last 104 games over the last two seasons.
Gagne would get 6 mil on the open market and id like Fleischmann but he will get overpaid

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Gagne would get 6 mil on the open market and id like Fleischmann but he will get overpaid
Gagne will go for less than that. He got made 5.25 this season and is coming off of a bad season with injuries, then put up identical stats in a few more games.

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We are not prying Sharp from the Hawks without completely overpaying
This is unfortunately true.
In theory, as long as they have Campbell and Hossa swallowing cap, they look vulnerable. But they are not moving Sharp.

You would think that one of our well regarded prospect Gs with minimal cap (e.g., Stacjer) would be a good enough chunk we could add with other F prospects [I hear there loaded at D]; maybe Stacjer Werek Grachev and a 1 and a 2. But that won't do it.

At this stage, Anisimov is worth more to me than Stepan. Nothing against either. Stepan may have more intangibles, though he's also still learning. AA has more raw talent.

If you really want him, because of the cap, maybe Stepan and Stacjer and our two 2s this year and another F prospect might do it.

But if you trade Stepan, is Sharp the guy you go for?

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fleischmann will want a bigger deal then we can afford/give. hes also coming off a season ending blood clot which is kind of a red flag for a bigger contract.
All of the above, plus he should contribute offensively, but will he play D?

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Gagne would get 6 mil on the open market and id like Fleischmann but he will get overpaid
Lol Wut? He didn't get that last year on the open market and was more enticing than he is now.

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Yeah let's just turn the whole team upside down instead of letting them play together that works.
The last thing i want to do, is become like the Knicks...

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That is WAY too much for Sharp.

Del Zotto's value is at an all time low. It's stupid to trade him now. It's worth it to keep him and hope he bounces back and improves his game in his own end (which I think he will)

Anisimov was this team's second line center all season and increased his point totals from his rookie season. On his way to becoming one of the best two way centers in the game.

And you also want to give up a first rounder in a draft that's supposed to be the strongest since 2008? No way.

I like Sharp, but a HUGE pass for me.

EDIT: I'm apparently out of line from the responses so far. Sue me.
Agree on MDZ...think yo are overvaluing AA, who i like btw, but his faceoff skills did not improve at all in his 2nd year

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Would this work:

FORWARDS (13)
Patrick Sharp ($3,900,000) Brad Richards ($7,000,000) Marian Gaborik ($7,500,000)
Brandon Dubinsky ($3,500,000) Derek Stepan ($875,000) Ryan Callahan ($4,000,000)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1,500,000) Brian Boyle ($1,000,000) Brandon Prust ($800,000)
Sean Avery ($1,937,500) Jake Dowell ($1,000,000) Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1,750,000)
Erik Christensen ($925,000)
DEFENSEMEN (7)
Marc Staal ($3,975,000) Daniel Girardi ($3,325,000)
Ryan McDonagh ($1,300,000) Mike Sauer ($1,500,000)
Tomas Kundratek ($816,666) Steve Eminger ($1,500,000)
Matt Gilroy ($1,000,000)
GOALTENDERS (2)
Henrik Lundqvist ($6,875,000)
Martin Biron ($875,000)
SUMMARY (totals compiled using bonus cushion)
ROSTER SIZE 22
SALARY CAP $62,200,000
CAP PAYROLL $56,854,166
BONUSES $1,537,500
CAP SPACE $6,883,334

Drury and Wolski's buyouts equal 4.2 Million so subtract that from the 6.9 Million in cap space, and we have 2.7 Million in cap space left. I really like it, personally. Get it done Slats!

http://www.capgeek.com/cap_calculator/roster.php?id=502

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