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08-12-2005, 05:08 PM
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.. but 2.5 million a year fror 4 years (barring the first year at $1.8 milliion) get you Rhett Warrenner. The market for defencemen is hotter than for forwards, it seems. Don't be too quick to dismiss Khavanov... one thing Quinn and Rick Ley are able to do is explain what they want out of their defencemen. Unfortunately, some (*ahem* McCabe *cough*) lose track of it every now and then, but I think we'll see Khavanov buys into the program pretty quickly. Yes, he does need a push, but JFJ brought him to the Leafs knowing that about him, indeed knowing him from St. Louis, where he was reportedly one of JFJ's projects, so I imagine he'll have discussed it Quinn already.

Now, why didn't I concur?... Oh, wait. I did.

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What is it you don't like about him?
...I guess mostly that he's such an under-the-radar pick. Plus - and I hate to use the generalization - as a Leaf fan I'm suspicious of our euro defenseman picks. It's great that Khavanov has his supporters but then there are those who say that Kaberle is a top scoring defenseman, or that Aki Berg is a dominant physical force. And I'm not saying those people don't know hockey - both those guys have represented their countries in the World Cup, unless I'm mistaken. But who here likes Kaberle or Berg?

At the end of the day, we're signing all these hometown boys who are dying to play in Toronto and we sign this guy. All I know about him other than some stats are that he's not from Toronto and wouldn't kill to play here. When half the league's top players would do anything to be a Leaf, why sign someone who isn't invested in the team?

Don't get me wrong, I hope Khavanov does great, but if he's a bust, I'll be the first to call him Khavanob, etc.

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...I guess mostly that he's such an under-the-radar pick. Plus - and I hate to use the generalization - as a Leaf fan I'm suspicious of our euro defenseman picks. It's great that Khavanov has his supporters but then there are those who say that Kaberle is a top scoring defenseman, or that Aki Berg is a dominant physical force. And I'm not saying those people don't know hockey - both those guys have represented their countries in the World Cup, unless I'm mistaken. But who here likes Kaberle or Berg?

At the end of the day, we're signing all these hometown boys who are dying to play in Toronto and we sign this guy. All I know about him other than some stats are that he's not from Toronto and wouldn't kill to play here. When half the league's top players would do anything to be a Leaf, why sign someone who isn't invested in the team?

Don't get me wrong, I hope Khavanov does great, but if he's a bust, I'll be the first to call him Khavanob, etc.
It's good you've got the nickname picked out.

Actually I like Berg and I like Kaberle a lot, so you may be talking to the wrong guy. Are you saying you didn't like Yushkevich and Svehla?

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It's great that Khavanov has his supporters but then there are those who say that Kaberle is a top scoring defenseman, or that Aki Berg is a dominant physical force. And I'm not saying those people don't know hockey - both those guys have represented their countries in the World Cup, unless I'm mistaken. But who here likes Kaberle or Berg?
Kaberle > McCabe

In conclusion, Tomas is our best d-man

He just rocks

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Are you saying you didn't like Yushkevich and Svehla?
I liked Yushkevich a lot, and for that matter I also liked Salming (his being a coke fiend notwithstanding). I just think as of late the europeans we've had on D have been lacklustre on both ends of the ice and while I could be wrong I was to believe most Leafs fans felt that Kaberle isn't worthy of the Leafs' first line (which I would probably agree with) and that Berg shouldn't be in the NHL (which I would definitely disagree with).

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but then there are those who say that Kaberle is a top scoring defenseman And I'm not saying those people don't know hockey - both those guys have represented their countries in the World Cup, unless I'm mistaken. But who here likes Kaberle or Berg?

Don't get me wrong, I hope Khavanov does great, but if he's a bust, I'll be the first to call him Khavanob, etc.

McCabe: .38 points per game career
Kaberle: .51 points per game career

Don't worry, in Europe I'm sure the Jonkoping fans have much worse names for, can't quite handle the speed, McCabe.

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Not saying McCabe is the answer either, guys.

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JFJ discovered Khavanov and was responsible for drafting him in his late 20's.

The Moscow-born Khavanov (pronounced Ka-VAN-ov) was a Ferguson project when the Toronto general manager was vice-president and director of hockey operations for the Blues. Khavanov was picked 232nd overall in 1999 when he was well into his 20s, brought over from Moscow Dynamo a couple of years later and was able to jump right into the St. Louis lineup.

Source: http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL...66795-sun.html

Khavanov, 33, had been a regular with the Blues since the 2000-01 season. He is reunited with former Blues assistant general manager John Ferguson, Jr., now GM of the Maple Leafs. Ferguson scouted Khavanov for the Blues before the team drafted the Moscow native in the eighth round in 1999.

Source: http://www.belleville.com/mld/bellev...s/12374860.htm

I really like Khavanov, and I hope that he always plays on the left side, because he isn't comfortable at all playing on the right side.

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"Don Lever (Blues' assistant coach) is my neighbour and he says Khavanov can really move the puck and join the rush," Neale said. "That gives them some good puck-handlers back there. But I think they have to find a big penalty killing specialist, too."

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