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04-29-2011, 11:38 PM
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How did they enforce - no forward passing? Whistle the play dead? That sounds awful by today's standards.
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04-30-2011, 12:01 AM
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George Hainsworth of the 1928-1929 Montreal Canadiens set the single season NHL record in shut outs with 22.

We are almost done completing our defensive corps. We have four extremely solid guys in Staal, Girardi, McDonagh, and Sauer. Two of the previously mentioned four are rookies who play well beyond their years (imagine them when they're seasoned!), Staal is elite, and Girardi is a usable 1st pairing guy, but better suited to the second pairing role. We have one more major D man to add before our defense can become scary. Let's say in two or three years our defense as a whole becomes elite with no holes. Is there any limit to what Henrik can do if this likely scenario occurs?

Elite D = easier games for an elite goalie = more shut outs.


Just for the record, there are four players tied for second place all time with 15 shut outs.
No I dont think so, however, 4 more for 15 I dont think is out of the question. I could see him maybe even getting 16, but no way 22.

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04-30-2011, 12:05 AM
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I'd just like to point out that on a really mediocre team that barely made the playoffs he put up 11 shut outs. Not saying he'll break the record, but it's worth taking a step back to really think about that.

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04-30-2011, 12:22 AM
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Perfect 22 out of 70 games he would have to be.

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04-30-2011, 02:50 AM
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No way jose.

I do see him passing Brodeur's mark and possibly getting upwards of 15 or 16 though. If he is able to forego his usual in season dropoff where he lets in weak goals, he will do it. Just needs to have that stellar season.

Lundqvist will, no doubt, win a vezina sooner or later.

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04-30-2011, 03:19 AM
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No chance. I'll be extremely happy if he reaches double digits next season.

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04-30-2011, 03:48 AM
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Nope. He'd need both a great team AND a time machine. Those days are long gone.

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George Hainsworth of the 1928-1929 Montreal Canadiens set the single season NHL record in shut outs with 22.

We are almost done completing our defensive corps. We have four extremely solid guys in Staal, Girardi, McDonagh, and Sauer. Two of the previously mentioned four are rookies who play well beyond their years (imagine them when they're seasoned!), Staal is elite, and Girardi is a usable 1st pairing guy, but better suited to the second pairing role. We have one more major D man to add before our defense can become scary. Let's say in two or three years our defense as a whole becomes elite with no holes. Is there any limit to what Henrik can do if this likely scenario occurs?

Elite D = easier games for an elite goalie = more shut outs.


Just for the record, there are four players tied for second place all time with 15 shut outs.
I believe Hank is one the real good goalies in the NHL but you are making it seem he is one of the all time greats in the history of the NHL..

This Ranger team had a really good NHL defense this year. They let up the 4th least amount of goals in the WHOLE NHL. Granted, Hank in goal does help but also this Ranger team defense was very good this year also

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we need a new word cos "elite" gets thrown around here with an annoying frequency.

hank could probably do it....in the AHL

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04-30-2011, 07:36 AM
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we need a new word cos "elite" gets thrown around here with an annoying frequency.

hank could probably do it....in the AHL
Hasek was elite, Roy was elite, Brodeur was elite.

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04-30-2011, 08:27 AM
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Hasek was elite, Roy was elite, Brodeur was elite.
So, are there no elite players in the NHL right now, because if you compare them to all time greats(besides Brodeur) they aren't as good?

Crosby isn't elite because he's not as good as Gretzky?

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No I dont think so, however, 4 more for 15 I dont think is out of the question. I could see him maybe even getting 16, but no way 22.
I second this.
Or at least get 13 to beat Brodeur's record

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That was 80 years ago its a COMPLETLY different game, no way.

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The leading goal scorer that year was Ace Bailey with 22. Could Henrik beat Brodeur and Hasek shut out numbers? Yes, but doubling what he did this year is impossible.

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So, are there no elite players in the NHL right now, because if you compare them to all time greats(besides Brodeur) they aren't as good?

Crosby isn't elite because he's not as good as Gretzky?
Crosby is elite. There are a few elite players in the NHL such as Crosby, Ovechkin, the Sedins, Pronger, Lidstrom, and etc...

It's weird.. For goalies, there are quite a few really, really good NHL goalies in the game right now such as Thomas, Luongo, Price, Miller, Roloson, Bryzgalov, Fleury, Rinne, Vokun, Broduer, and Hank is DEFINATELY in the mix... Are there elite goalies?? I am not sure.. It seems there is always 1 or 2 goalies every year who have great statistics and etc such as Thomas or Miller last year. Brodeur was elite, is he now?

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Maybe, and if Gaborik gets an elite center, I can see him breaking Joe Malone's record as well!!!

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Crosby is elite. There are a few elite players in the NHL such as Crosby, Ovechkin, the Sedins, Pronger, Lidstrom, and etc...

It's weird.. For goalies, there are quite a few really, really good NHL goalies in the game right now such as Thomas, Luongo, Price, Miller, Roloson, Bryzgalov, Fleury, Rinne, Vokun, Broduer, and Hank is DEFINATELY in the mix... Are there elite goalies?? I am not sure.. It seems there is always 1 or 2 goalies every year who have great statistics and etc such as Thomas or Miller last year. Brodeur was elite, is he now?
Even "D" men. No one has matched what Leetch since his 91/92 performance as of yet. Lidstrom is running out of time. Maybe P.K., or Del Zotto?

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Even "D" men. No one has matched what Leetch since his 91/92 performance as of yet. Lidstrom is running out of time. Maybe P.K., or Del Zotto?
If Subban keeps playing the way he's been playing, running that mouth of his like he's done lately...he's going to have a lot of games missed due to injuries.

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I believe Hank is one the real good goalies in the NHL but you are making it seem he is one of the all time greats in the history of the NHL..

This Ranger team had a really good NHL defense this year. They let up the 4th least amount of goals in the WHOLE NHL. Granted, Hank in goal does help but also this Ranger team defense was very good this year also
I think he's better than elite Brodeur.

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I think he's better than elite Brodeur.
I always thought this. Broduer and his super stacked defense put on a facade. Broduer was good but his numbers are inflated.

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Not a chance, even playing for the NHL all-star team against the Oilers for 82 games.

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I always thought this. Broduer and his super stacked defense put on a facade. Broduer was good but his numbers are inflated.
why dont you look up brodeur's stats since the lockout, that is without the stacked defense.
Add the fact that he is ten years older than your "king", and the vezina count.
Say and think what you want about Lundqvist, but until he proves himself in this league by winning something you have no argument.

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I think he's better than elite Brodeur.

I love Hank but he isn't better than Fatso. No way.

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