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05-04-2011, 09:58 AM
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So what exactly was he doing.... charging in to give him a hug or a playful noogie with his forearm?
It's hockey Nancy, he was likely going to check him. That's what big boy hockey players do. Richards knows this better then anyone, he laid a beaut (and that's not sarcastic) on Krejci last year so the fact that he's also a target of extra hard but still clean checks shouldn't come as a big surprise.

Raised elbow, jesus, thought all Flyers fans had thicker skin then that. Starting to wonder if McQuaid had of connected whether a couple of 911 calls would have been placed.

And no one expects anyone to feel sorry for McQuaid, why should they, he's a hockey player that missed a check and hurt himself? It happens. Hopefully he takes some lessons from Johnny Boychuk and next time doesn't miss Richards.


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05-04-2011, 10:01 AM
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What does it really matter? He missed and is lucky to not have suffered a serious injury. Maybe it is payback for the setup on Shelley earlier in the game?

So are Bruins fans going to complain about the announcers again tonight? Boo-hoo. The announcers are so biased, what was that a Philly broadcast?

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05-04-2011, 10:31 AM
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Got what he asked for personally. Funny that karma stuff.

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05-04-2011, 03:10 PM
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No sense getting into a tit for tat with the Boston fans posting here. All I can say is that McForearm has a responsibility to himself, to his team and to the opposing players on the ice to play clean and hard. To claim that his blatant charge with a forearm wasn't reckless and irresponsible and thus clean is to completely show your bias. Sure the game is a physical sport and it's the nature of the game to have incidents like these..still doesn't make it anymore acceptable. That's like people who are aholes claiming they are aholes because they were brought up this way or that way..well doesn't change the fact that you are still an ahole.

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05-04-2011, 04:20 PM
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It's hockey Nancy, he was likely going to check him. That's what big boy hockey players do. Richards knows this better then anyone, he laid a beaut (and that's not sarcastic) on Krejci last year so the fact that he's also a target of extra hard but still clean checks shouldn't come as a big surprise.

Raised elbow, jesus, thought all Flyers fans had thicker skin then that. Starting to wonder if McQuaid had of connected whether a couple of 911 calls would have been placed.

And no one expects anyone to feel sorry for McQuaid, why should they, he's a hockey player that missed a check and hurt himself? It happens. Hopefully he takes some lessons from Johnny Boychuk and next time doesn't miss Richards.
Hilarious from a Bruins fan... still remember the temper tantrum from the Bruins' faithful for MONTHS after the Jones hit.


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05-04-2011, 04:38 PM
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Hilarious from a Bruins fan... still remember the temper tantrum from the Bruins' faithful for MONTHS after the Jones hit.
I was at that game, right down on the goal line where the hit happened. Bruins fans were talking about how the Flyers are a bunch of goons, and the fans lust for blood, well now they got it. My only response besides putting my head in my hands and shaking my head was to tell them Bergeron put himself in a bad position for that hit. The difference between old school players and new school is simple.

Old school players would go in, protect the puck with their skates and stick, absorb the hit, and move the puck after the hit creating space.

New school players go to the boards, create a buffer, put their head down into the boards attempting to create space. Much like you would in a no-contact mens league.

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05-04-2011, 04:40 PM
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I was at that game, right down on the goal line where the hit happened. Bruins fans were talking about how the Flyers are a bunch of goons, and the fans lust for blood, well now they got it. My only response besides putting my head in my hands and shaking my head was to tell them Bergeron put himself in a bad position for that hit. The difference between old school players and new school is simple.

Old school players would go in, protect the puck with their skates and stick, absorb the hit, and move the puck after the hit creating space.

New school players go to the boards, create a buffer, put their head down into the boards attempting to create space. Much like you would in a no-contact mens league.
The defense of Jones because "Bergeron didn't protect himself" crap doesn't fly with me. That hit was absolutely brutal, and Jones was a Flyer who actually did deserve a 20 game suspension that year. At the same time, the Bruins' fans reaction was ridiculous in how extended it was... and Edwards obviously is an abomination of stupid.

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05-04-2011, 04:46 PM
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The defense of Jones because "Bergeron didn't protect himself" crap doesn't fly with me. That hit was absolutely brutal, and Jones was a Flyer who actually did deserve a 20 game suspension that year. At the same time, the Bruins' fans reaction was ridiculous in how extended it was... and Edwards obviously is an abomination of stupid.
Jones intent was not to plaster his head into the boards, bergeron turned and put himself in that position and Jones was already going for the hit. Bergeron's face hit the dasher, not even the glass.

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05-04-2011, 04:50 PM
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Jones intent was not to plaster his head into the boards, bergeron turned and put himself in that position and Jones was already going for the hit. Bergeron's face hit the dasher, not even the glass.
No he didn't. Jones was ALWAYS behind him, and NEVER in a position to deliver a clean check.



Bergeron went in a straight line to the puck and his shoulders turned to play the puck. That was not one of those plays where the guy turns away from contact into the boards as the hit is coming.... not only that, Jones doesn't even bend to begin the motion to hit Bergeron until AFTER Bergeron turned his shoulders to get his stick on the puck.

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05-05-2011, 09:06 AM
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Oy, Jester and his Jones Jihad. Again.

It's been debunked before. Jones had no history of that kind of play. There was no run taken or target "lined up". It all happened split second. That hit only belongs on a conversation about Boarding when (as is the case above, pre-Jester) the topic is players making themselves vulnerable with poor body positioning.

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05-05-2011, 09:32 AM
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The Jones thing is all about "dirty Flyers." When Jones went into Boston when he was with the Kings, there was barely a peep.

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05-05-2011, 11:06 AM
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Oy, Jester and his Jones Jihad. Again.

It's been debunked before. Jones had no history of that kind of play. There was no run taken or target "lined up". It all happened split second. That hit only belongs on a conversation about Boarding when (as is the case above, pre-Jester) the topic is players making themselves vulnerable with poor body positioning.
It wasn't malicious, but it was still stupid/dirty/reckless/a bad hit on Jones' part.

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It wasn't malicious, but it was still stupid/dirty/reckless/a bad hit on Jones' part.
Yeah, according to the "defenders" of that hit, Bergeron shouldn't have gone and played the puck behind the net. It was a completely and utterly illegal play... the hit was EXTREMELY dangerous, and Jones never should have even thought about delivering the hit. The fact that he didn't have a history of "malicious" hits doesn't make the hit any less stupid or reprehensible.

JXC's defense there is the equivalent of saying a drunk driver that kills someone didn't do something egregiously stupid just because it was the first time they drove drunk.

But, of course, JXC is probably still smarting from the fact that his defense of Jones for those years looks incredibly idiotic given the fact that Jones' career has gone of the cliff and he's proven himself to be nothing more than a fringe bottom pairing D.

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05-06-2011, 07:00 PM
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Jones was ALWAYS behind him
Wrong.
Wrong three years ago,
wrong today,
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Yeah, according to the "defenders" of that hit, Bergeron shouldn't have gone and played the puck behind the net. It was a completely and utterly illegal play... the hit was EXTREMELY dangerous, and Jones never should have even thought about delivering the hit. The fact that he didn't have a history of "malicious" hits doesn't make the hit any less stupid or reprehensible.

JXC's defense there is the equivalent of saying a drunk driver that kills someone didn't do something egregiously stupid just because it was the first time they drove drunk.

But, of course, JXC is probably still smarting from the fact that his defense of Jones for those years looks incredibly idiotic given the fact that Jones' career has gone of the cliff and he's proven himself to be nothing more than a fringe bottom pairing D.
It's okay, though. Just wait till you get a load of how validated he'll feel when we lose early in the playoffs and he can go on about how Stevens is better than Laviolette.

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05-06-2011, 07:16 PM
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Glad to see the Habs fan come off the golf course to weigh in.

The answer is simple. After playing 7 games with the diving and acrobatic Habs, the Bruins sense of equilibrium and balance is completely out of whack.

They simply cannot comprehend an NHL team not falling over as a result of a stiff breeze. It's quite disconcerting.
Wow.

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Wrong.
Wrong three years ago,
wrong today,
wrong forever.

He's behind him there. Are your eyes alright?

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05-06-2011, 07:45 PM
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Wrong.
Wrong three years ago,
wrong today,
wrong forever.

JXC defending a completely undefendable play by Randy Jones, what else is new?

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He's behind him there. Are your eyes alright?
Relative to what? I just think we should make it clear we're talking about being behind Bergeron relative to where the puck is going to be once Bergeron gets to it... because he's about parallel to Bergeron in that picture. But they're obviously (at least obvious to you and me) not skating to the puck's spot, but where it's going.

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He was trying to hurt Richards. Almost like he was trying to punch him and then he tripped and fell into the boards.

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05-09-2011, 07:53 AM
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He's behind him there. Are your eyes alright?
No, he's not.

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05-09-2011, 07:55 AM
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Relative to what? I just think we should make it clear we're talking about being behind Bergeron relative to where the puck is going to be once Bergeron gets to it... because he's about parallel to Bergeron in that picture. But they're obviously (at least obvious to you and me) not skating to the puck's spot, but where it's going.
That's right. The terrible horrible reckless stupid hit that warranted a 20 ganme suspension happened about 1 second after this still. In that second, Bergeron cut it front of Jones, faced the boards, and turned his back to the defender.

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It's okay, though. Just wait till you get a load of how validated he'll feel when we lose early in the playoffs and he can go on about how Stevens is better than Laviolette.
No way, man.

Lavi did a heckuva job taking over for Stevens. I can't wait to see what the Flyers look like after a full training camp with himn oh wait

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I think the best way to see the Jones incident was that it was a dirty brutal hit compounded by poor judgment on the victim and the perpetrator. Hockey is a dangerous sport, and you don't need intent to injure to severely injure someone. Players need to keep their heads up and use judgment, regardless of whether you're the hitter or the hittee.

Back on topic, Richards's evasion is pretty awesome. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Richards lived, McQuaid died

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JXC defending a completely undefendable play by Randy Jones, what else is new?
Shocking, innit?

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