Are those players available? Schoenfeld thought Gomez and Drury were worthy of the contracts they got from the Rangers. Scared to find out who he considers an "elite player".
Torts said last week on Kay's show that he liked being the spokesman for the organization. Every time Slats and Schoeny talk,they sound foolish. At the draft,Sather said many players wouldn't be qualified so the free agent pool would be bigger. Didn't happen. Before the start of this season,Sather said he was surprised more players were not waived for cap purposes.
Are those players available? Schoenfeld thought Gomez and Drury were worthy of the contracts they got from the Rangers. Scared to find out who he considers an "elite player".
Torts said last week on Kay's show that he liked being the spokesman for the organization. Every time Slats and Schoeny talk,they sound foolish. At the draft,Sather said many players wouldn't be qualified so the free agent pool would be bigger. Didn't happen. Before the start of this season,Sather said he was surprised more players were not waived for cap purposes.
Jeez, way to take labels seriously. It's a word that's thrown around a lot, elite, that is.
Brandon Dubinsky and Ryan Callahan. $4M is too much in a long term deal? An arbitrator thought Nikolai Zherdev was worth $3.9M for one year. Dubinsky is two years away from group III. Callahan is one year away. Travis Zajac got nearly $4M per and gave up 1 year of group III. He's getting $4.8M for that group III year. Mike Fisher is getting $4.2M(cap hit wise). He was a group III. 5 years/$21M. Similar players. Patrick Sharp had 1 good year in Chicago and got 4 years/$15.6M. $3.3M for 1 arbitration year. 3 group III years. $4M. $4.1M. $4.2M.
Shouldn't it be reserved for the best in the game at what they do?
Yeah, that's how I look at it. There can be multiple players that are up there as being one of the best at what they do. It doesn't have to be one guy.
Brandon Dubinsky and Ryan Callahan. $4M is too much in a long term deal? An arbitrator thought Nikolai Zherdev was worth $3.9M for one year. Dubinsky is two years away from group III. Callahan is one year away. Travis Zajac got nearly $4M per and gave up 1 year of group III. He's getting $4.8M for that group III year. Mike Fisher is getting $4.2M(cap hit wise). He was a group III. 5 years/$21M. Similar players. Patrick Sharp had 1 good year in Chicago and got 4 years/$15.6M. $3.3M for 1 arbitration year. 3 group III years. $4M. $4.1M. $4.2M.
You did the same thing with Johnny Boychuk; claiming he's going to get the same $$ Jeff Finger initially got. It's not as blunt as you make it.
Agreed. I dont do that deal then. The game is too add to the core not trade it away. Which makes things so much harder since all teams want our core players.
Don't see why we would trade for Hemsky when Fleischmann is a UFA. Though if Flash gets signed, I'd trade Grachev and a pick for Hemsky. I wouldn't want to trade a 1st rounder, though I could see NYR doing it.
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Originally Posted by wolfgaze
I like Schoenfeld.
Shoeny and Clark
You can start about 7 threads from what he says in this video.
Don't see why we would trade for Hemsky when Fleischmann is a UFA. Though if Flash gets signed, I'd trade Grachev and a pick for Hemsky. I wouldn't want to trade a 1st rounder, though I could see NYR doing it.
Shoeny and Clark
You can start about 7 threads from what he says in this video.
What's with you and Fleichsmann? He's not that good.
Don't see why we would trade for Hemsky when Fleischmann is a UFA. Though if Flash gets signed, I'd trade Grachev and a pick for Hemsky. I wouldn't want to trade a 1st rounder, though I could see NYR doing it.
Shoeny and Clark
You can start about 7 threads from what he says in this video.
Fleisch and Hemmer aren't even comparable. Fleisch is no where near Hemmers talent.
Maybe it should, but it's not. People use "elite" as another way of saying "legitimate first liner" nowadays.
I am definitely not one of those people. Elite to me is best of the league. 80+ points and not just once in your career. A consistent mid 70s+ could make a case. Then there is "elite talent" which is someone who has played at that elite level but for whatever reason, has not been able to do in consistently season to season.
What's with you and Fleichsmann? He's not that good.
In the past two years Hemsky and Fleischmann have scored the following stats.
GP G -A -PTs pp/g gp/82 Healthy player production(PP/G x Avg% games over 2 year period played)
69 21 43 64 .93 42%-------.39 Hemsky
114 35 47 82 .72 70%-------.504 Fleischmann
Hemsky has a slightly better output then Fleischmann, not significantly higher. But Fleischmann is a significantly lower health risk and is much more likely to play a full season. Consider that and his total offensive output is consider to be much more likely to contribute to the team then that of Hemsky even thought Hemsky is somewhat more skilled.
Furthermore add to it that Fleischmann is a UFA and costs no assets to acquire and it's clear that Fleischmann is the better option.
