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05-06-2011, 10:23 PM
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Maybe he does have some secret desire to play in Vancouver....
That's all I was saying. When you look at where he is from, it's not really a stretch to think that it would be a desirable destination.

That said, do I think he'll leave Nashville? No. He's their franchise player. He'll get locked up to some long term cap friendly type deal - like Duncan Keith.

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05-06-2011, 11:05 PM
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That's all I was saying. When you look at where he is from, it's not really a stretch to think that it would be a desirable destination.

That said, do I think he'll leave Nashville? No. He's their franchise player. He'll get locked up to some long term cap friendly type deal - like Duncan Keith.
No it's not but does Vancouver have the cap room to sign him and keep their other players? Look at Chicago. Big chunks of salary tied up in two players cost them their depth this year. Be careful what you wish for. And no one really cried after Hamhuis left. He was our resident whipping boy last season. We have guys who were able to take his place and we did not miss him all that much.

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05-07-2011, 12:30 AM
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You lose all credibility when you make a statement like that. Laughable.
i understand why you say this, but the preds are more than likely happy right now considering he would be the third best dman here, and teetering 4th (him and klein weren't too far apart last year. and watching the 8 games between the clubs this year, i wouldn't say they are far off still. even then, with blum, franson, josi, ellis, roussel and a kid from sweden (name escapes me) all chomping at the bit now and in the next year, and all playing games similar to dans (puck moving dman) we could afford to let the guy go and not bat an eye.

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05-07-2011, 01:50 AM
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i understand why you say this, but the preds are more than likely happy right now considering he would be the third best dman here, and teetering 4th (him and klein weren't too far apart last year. and watching the 8 games between the clubs this year, i wouldn't say they are far off still. even then, with blum, franson, josi, ellis, roussel and a kid from sweden (name escapes me) all chomping at the bit now and in the next year, and all playing games similar to dans (puck moving dman) we could afford to let the guy go and not bat an eye.
Being able to afford to lose a guy is a lot different than cutting a guy lose and not wanting him back.

To say the Preds are better with Hamhuis gone is asanine.

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05-07-2011, 07:15 AM
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You lose all credibility when you make a statement like that. Laughable.
Not really. Hammer was replaceable and the folks on this board knew it last year. Suter and Weber - not so easily. Go back and read our threads on Humhuis. We have a lot of talented young defensemen. However good you think Hammer is, we have guys that can replace him... Off the top of my head there is Blum, Josi, Ellis.

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Being able to afford to lose a guy is a lot different than cutting a guy lose and not wanting him back.

To say the Preds are better with Hamhuis gone is asanine.
I'd say we know more about Hammer's usefulness to Nashville after watching him for years on a daily basis. How many Preds games have you seen? 5-7?? Maybe 10??? It's asinine for you to suggest that one of the deepest D-men prospect pools in the NHL can't replace a 2nd pairing D-man with a lot less money. If we had resigned Hamhuis we waste a lot of money on a marginally better player. Maybe he's more valuable to Vancouver because you don't have the prospects Nashville has? Of course I wouldn't be so presumptuous to watch a few of your games and say Vancouver made a monumental mistake by letting O'Brien go. Surely the Canucks would be a much better team if SOB were playing for Vancouver. It's asinine to think otherwise.

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Being able to afford to lose a guy is a lot different than cutting a guy lose and not wanting him back.

To say the Preds are better with Hamhuis gone is asanine.
With Hammer-1st round playoffs exits each year. Without Hammer..did that happen again this year????

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I always liked Hamhuis as a person (well, up until he started making cracks at Nashville once he was gone) but as a player he wasn't exactly a game-breaker who could single-handedly make us a better team like you're trying to imply. On a team like Vancouver who is not known for good defence I can see how he would be much more valuable and I can understand why you'd stick up for him so much. The thing is, we have a few of the best junior D-men coming up through our ranks (being from Vancouver, I imagine you've heard of someone named Jon Blum) and signing Hamhuis simply takes away ice time from these guys as well. Hamhuis isn't a bad player, don't get me wrong, but I, personally, am much more excited to see what Blum, Josi, and Ellis can do for us than paying three/four times as much just to keep an OK veteran.

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This is a topic on what the Preds will do with the extra playoff revenue. Not the Hamhuis situation. Please find a better topic for this conversation.

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05-07-2011, 09:29 AM
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This is a topic on what the Preds will do with the extra playoff revenue. Not the Hamhuis situation. Please find a better topic for this conversation.
This. If anyone wants to discuss rumors or previous Predator players there are threads to do it, this one is not it.

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It's obvious a warning in normal size text is not enough so here it is again: This thread will not be for discussing Hamhuis. Do so in an appropriate thread.

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Would you guys have space to take in a contract? Someone like Hemsky?

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Would you guys have space to take in a contract? Someone like Hemsky?
To be honest this up coming year I think Nashville could.

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Would you guys have space to take in a contract? Someone like Hemsky?
I think that depends entirely on Dumont/Lombardi. If they are still regular scratches, then no we probably can't. Otherwise I could see it if the term isn't too long.

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I don't know if this falls under expenditures the team would take or capital improvements that the city would take care of, but I'd like the following things to be addressed at the arena: latches that work in the restrooms, a soap dispenser at the right or left of EVERY sink, and it's a lot better, but more attention to the stickiness of the floors.

Besides that, please sign Weber and Suter...and Kostitsyn because I like him.

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a few more wins should allow the preds not only sign all their guys, but add some pieces and sell more tickets for next year

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Would you guys have space to take in a contract? Someone like Hemsky?
That would defiantly be tempting. However we really need to assess the need for size and strength in the lineup and Hemsky may not be the solution. Man I miss Hartnell.

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IMO, nothing. I think we should wait until next offseason to do anything bold. We are looking at having to re-sgin Rinne, Suter, and Wilson (who may need a raise, we'll see after Weber and Kostitsyn this year. I think we should either sign all of the big 3 this summer and get it over with or wait. I don't want to sign someone that puts us in a position where we have to choose between Suter and Rinne. Stockpile the money, go crazy next offseason.

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Aren't we at or near the contract limit, already?

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don't forget Cogen's recent interview guys, Predators are looking to break even with the playoff revenue.

I'd imagine Lombardi and Sully are off the books after this season, but that money goes to re-signing Ward, Spaling, Weber, etc.

Don't think there's going to be a big splash (per the usual)

Oh, don't forget Martin Erat's pulling down $6m next year.

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The only difference between cap figures and cash figures is 2 million dollars. I have calculated about 4 million dollars cash wise under the cap after signing SK and Weber and Buying out Dumont with 21 players on the roster. Leaving a spot open for a 1st line winger and a 3rd liner.

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The only free agents I'd be interested in are Brooks Laich and Kevin Bieksa. Why blow franchise-player money on a another center with concussion problems?

Just buy out Bouillon, trade Dumont, and let Sully leave...

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Easy: pay off all the regular season debt we built up...

aka, break even for the year

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IMO, nothing. I think we should wait until next offseason to do anything bold. We are looking at having to re-sgin Rinne, Suter, and Wilson (who may need a raise, we'll see after Weber and Kostitsyn this year. I think we should either sign all of the big 3 this summer and get it over with or wait. I don't want to sign someone that puts us in a position where we have to choose between Suter and Rinne. Stockpile the money, go crazy next offseason.
I hope that management takes this approach. While it's always tempting to try to go out and bring in a new big name, we have a great thing going right now. All four lines of our roster roll pretty well, not perfect, but definitely no dire need to pay the big bucks to bring in a Hemsky or a Richards. If anything, I'd rather save any leftover cash we may have after we re-sign our big names, retain SK, Ward, or whoever else management sees fit, and save it for when the right time comes along, such as bringing in a big contract if something comes up at the trade deadline of next season. Plus, I'm really excited to start giving our young guys some chances. Blum really impressed me in his first season, and it would be nice if there was room on the roster for Josi to periodically pop his head up in Nashville and show us what he can bring on the NHL level.

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Easy: pay off all the regular season debt we built up...

aka, break even for the year
+1 paying debt is always a good thing

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