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05-11-2011, 07:51 PM
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Rostislav Olesz has a terrible contract. A knee injury ended his season in February. If he is still hurt in June,Florida can't buy him out for a 1/3. Cap number is $3.125M but he is owed $11.65M over the next 3 seasons.

Olesz for Drury.

Florida buys out Drury for $3,333,333 in real money

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Chris Drury buyout from CapGeek.com
2011-12: $3,716,667
2012-13: $1,666,667
The $3,716,667 cap hit helps Florida reach the floor. The Islanders reached the floor with Yashin's buyout.

Rangers free up $3.925M in summer cap space.

Rangers compliance buyout Olesz in the new CBA. Olesz can play in Europe next season.

Florida saves over $8M in real money. They would have to throw in something to sweeten the deal. Olesz is making $3.4M in 11-12,$4M in 12-13 and $4.25M in 13-14. If the Rangers compliance bought out the last 2 years,it would cost the Rangers $5.5M if the buyout system remains the same 2/3 for 26 and older. Almost $9M total.

Atlanta wanted to buyout Todd White but a shoulder injury prevented them so the traded him to the Rangers for Brashear and Rissmiller. They bought out Brashear.

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Rostislav Olesz has a terrible contract. A knee injury ended his season in February. If he is still hurt in June,Florida can't buy him out for a 1/3. Cap number is $3.125M but he is owed $11.65M over the next 3 seasons.

Olesz for Drury.

Florida buys out Drury for $3,333,333 in real money



The $3,716,667 cap hit helps Florida reach the floor. The Islanders reached the floor with Yashin's buyout.

Rangers free up $3.925M in summer cap space.

Rangers compliance buyout Olesz in the new CBA. Olesz can play in Europe next season.

Florida saves over $8M in real money. They would have to throw in something to sweeten the deal. Olesz is making $3.4M in 11-12,$4M in 12-13 and $4.25M in 13-14. If the Rangers compliance bought out the last 2 years,it would cost the Rangers $5.5M if the buyout system remains the same 2/3 for 26 and older. Almost $9M total.

Atlanta wanted to buyout Todd White but a shoulder injury prevented them so the traded him to the Rangers for Brashear and Rissmiller. They bought out Brashear.
no movement clause?

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This actually fits cap-wise...

HERE IS A FUNNY SCENARIO THAT WOULD FIELD ONE HECKUVA TEAM THIS YEAR...

FORWARDS
Vinny Prospal ($1.800m - 1 year) / Brad Richards ($7.000m - 5 years) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($3.800m - 4 years) / Artem Anisimov ($1.800m - 2 years) / Ryan Callahan ($3.300m -4 years)
Evgeny Grachev or Carl Hagelin /Kreider?/ (MAX $0.816m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Jaromir Jagr ($6.000m - 1 year)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.200m - 2 years) / Brian Boyle ($1.000m - 2 years) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Anton Babchuk ($1.600m - 2 years)
Michael Del Zotto or Pavel Valentenko (MAX $1.087m) / Mike Sauer ($1.300m - 2 years)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($0.875m)

BUYOUTS
Drury ($3.716m)
Avery ($0.604m)

TRADES
Wolski (without regular season salary back) at the draft for a prospect/2011 pick to Ottawa
MZA at the draft for Detroit 3rd rounder 2011 - best for him actually
Christ at the draft for Floridas 5th (or 6th) rounder 2011

RETIREMENT/DEMOTION
The Boogeyman

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
SALARY CAP: $62,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,550,000; BONUSES: $800,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $1,850,000

Still space for a 7th D and/or a 13th FW (maybe Mitchell/Newbury/Weise/goon + ev Gilroy/Eminger)
(Grachev, Hagelin, MDZ, Valentenko and ev Kreider are all waiver exempt)
Wait until training camp to "officially" sign Prospal + Jagr after waiving Redden
Voila --- the summer cap is fixed...

2012 DEADLINE DEAL
MDZ (or Mc Ill Wrath if he stagnates) + 2012 conditional 1st + Kundratek/new prospect for BRENT BURNS
Better yet would be to sign him as a UFA but the price will be VERY HIGH if he gets that far... Snag him early!

BTW - the above is most likely never gonna happen - but we could still field something like this the year after:

2012 OFFSEASON DEAL
ANISIMOV/STEPAN + 2012 2nd + 2013 conditional 1st to PITTSBURGH for JORDAN STAAL

2012-2013 SCC NYR LINEUP

FORWARDS
XXX (UFA/trade/Kreider?) – RICHARDS – GABORIK
DUBINSKY – STAAL – CALLAHAN

XXX (Kreider/Hagelin/Grachev) – STEPAN/AAXXX (UFA/Thomas?/Fasth)
XXX (Boyle/Hagelin/Prospect/trade) – BOYLE/LINDBERG – PRUST
GRINDER/PROSPECT/VET (FEDOTENKO?), GOON

DEFENCE*
STAAL – BURNS
McD – GIRARDI

V-TANK/UFA/(MDZ) – SAUER
BABCHUK/VET

*ADD McNASTY ON THE "D" AND THAT IS ONE SOLID HOMEGROWN D-CORP FOR MANY YEARS

GOALIES
HANK
BACKUP

Fill in the 4 XXX:s with the right players and the Cup goes down Broadway in June!


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Didn't Jagr re-sign in the KHL?

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HERE IS A FUNNY SCENARIO THAT WOULD FIELD ONE HECKUVA TEAM THIS YEAR...

FORWARDS
Vinny Prospal ($1.800m - 1 year) / Brad Richards ($7.000m - 5 years) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($3.800m - 4 years) / Artem Anisimov ($1.800m - 2 years) / Ryan Callahan ($3.300m -4 years)
Evgeny Grachev or Carl Hagelin /Kreider?/ (MAX $0.816m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Jaromir Jagr ($6.000m - 1 year)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.200m - 2 years) / Brian Boyle ($1.000m - 2 years) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Anton Babchuk ($1.600m - 2 years)
Michael Del Zotto or Pavel Valentenko (MAX $1.087m) / Mike Sauer ($1.300m - 2 years)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($0.875m)

BUYOUTS
Drury ($3.716m)
Avery ($0.604m)

TRADES
Wolski (without regular season salary back) at the draft for a prospect/2011 pick to Ottawa
MZA at the draft for Detroit 3rd rounder 2011 - best for him actually
Christ at the draft for Floridas 5th (or 6th) rounder 2011

RETIREMENT/DEMOTION
The Boogeyman

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
SALARY CAP: $62,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,550,000; BONUSES: $800,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $1,850,000

Still space for a 7th D and/or a 13th FW (maybe Mitchell/Newbury/Weise/goon + ev Gilroy/Eminger)
(Grachev, Hagelin, MDZ, Valentenko and ev Kreider are all waiver exempt)
Wait until training camp to "officially" sign Prospal + Jagr after waiving Redden
Voila --- the summer cap is fixed...

2012 DEADLINE DEAL
MDZ (or Mc Ill Wrath if he stagnates) + 2012 conditional 1st + Kundratek/new prospect for BRENT BURNS
Better yet would be to sign him as a UFA but the price will be VERY HIGH if he gets that far... Snag him early!

BTW - the above is most likely never gonna happen - but we could still field something like this the year after:

2012 OFFSEASON DEAL
ANISIMOV/STEPAN + 2013 conditional 1st + 2012 2nd for JORDAN STAAL

2012-2013 SCC NYR LINEUP

FORWARDS
XXX (UFA/trade/Kreider?) – RICHARDS – GABORIK
DUBINSKY – STAAL – CALLAHAN

XXX (Kreider/Hagelin/Grachev) – STEPAN/AAXXX (UFA/Thomas?/Fasth)
XXX (Boyle/Hagelin/Prospect/trade) – BOYLE/LINDBERG – PRUST
GRINDER/PROSPECT/VET (FEDOTENKO?), GOON

DEFENCE*
STAAL – BURNS
McD – GIRARDI

V-TANK/UFA/(MDZ) – SAUER
BABCHUK/VET

*ADD McNASTY ON THE "D" AND THAT IS ONE SOLID HOMEGROWN D-CORP FOR MANY YEARS

GOALIES
HANK
BACKUP

Fill in the 4 XXX:s with the right players and the Cup goes down Broadway in June!
Hehe, this is how I would format that team:

Dubi-Richards-Cally
Prospal-Anisimov-Gabby
Zucc-Stepan-JJ
Weise-Boyle-Prust


We would have depth, no doubt!

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Didn't Jagr re-sign in the KHL?
I do not believe he is signed anywhere - yet... Pittsburgh seems like a probable destination. Or Edmonton (he has previously stated a will to play with Hemsky and he would be a huge mentor for their kids).

I saw this http://www.sports.ru/en/hockey/96661150.html
Then again - isn´t Sather a pal with the Big Boss Anatoly Bardin of Avangard Omsk? JJ signs in Russia for another year and maybe something like this goes down???:

GS - Mr Anatoly Bardin - We should for future cooperation between our great organizations trade 2 players for season in 2011/12. We take old man Jagr off your hands and you get our All Star defender Wade Redden? Deal?
AB - Hmmm is thees guy gooood?
GS - Why yes. An NHL All Star and Olympic Gold Medal Winner.
AB - Olympeeks. Hmmmmm. Yes We have next Olympixxx here in Motherland. Gooood. We want more. More is good.
GS - (Scratches head and thinks -Where did that Dominic Moore go now - damnit?!?) Well we have the biggest meanest fighter in the league. Derek Boogaard. He even scares my grandchildren. A monster. Heard you guys are getting a bit chippy over there. We can throw him in too...
AB - Interesssteeng. I vant sometheeng more.
GS - Here is a box of Cuban Cohibas and I throw in 10 lifetime Box seats for our teams at MSG. Plus all the vodka you ever want.
AB - DEAL. But I hav lotz of Coheebas. Feedel is good man but not a hockey fan. Baseball. Give me box of latest iPads instead...
GS - Sure...

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no movement clause?
Read it again. Florida buys out Drury. Why would Drury block the trade if he's getting bought out either way?

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Read it again. Florida buys out Drury. Why would Drury block the trade if he's getting bought out either way?
I guess they could conceivably deal the guy but honestly I doubt they will be ablle to even if their is a buy out.

Can the Rangers really find that many bad contracts to bury in the minors?

The whole point is to save the cap space to use on the RFA's and ideally Richards

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Wolski - Richards - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Anisimov - Callahan
Leino - Stepan - Prust
MZA - Boyle - Horak

Staal - Girardi
McD - Ehrhoff
Sauer - MDZ

Gilroy

Hank
Biron

Leino adds a legit second scoring option who can swap between the top 3 lines. Ehrhoff adds a nasty shot and solid D. We take a Flyer on Wolski (young RFA with huge upside).

Buyout Drury, Trade/Minors for Boogard, Avery and Christensen. Horak is a place holder for whoever can fill the spot out of camp. We slide in just under the cap and have a solid team.


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Wolski - Richards - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Anisimov - Callahan
Leino - Stepan - Prust
MZA - Boyle - Horak

Staal - Girardi
McD - Ehrhoff
Sauer - MDZ

Gilroy

Hank
Biron

Leino adds a legit second scoring option who can swap between the top 3 lines. Ehrhoff adds a nasty shot and solid D. We take a Flyer on Wolski (young RFA with huge upside).

Buyout Drury, Trade/Minors for Boogard, Avery and Christensen. Horak is a place holder for whoever can fill the spot out of camp. We slide in just under the cap and have a solid team.
That team is impressive.

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Read it again. Florida buys out Drury. Why would Drury block the trade if he's getting bought out either way?
he has a NMC...he's gonna block any trade, we all know it.

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Why would Drury care which teams buys him out? He will become a free agent on July 1 whether its the Rangers or the acquiring teams buys him out. He can't block an ordinary course buyout or a buyout outside the June 15-30 period. So if the Rangers find a taker for Drury and that team agrees to buyout Drury in exchange for waiving his NMC,Drury is going to reject the deal? If that occurs,he is a piece of ****.


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According to Damien Cox,the world will come to an end again

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Start with a request for another 24 per cent salary rollback. Think about chopping the cap back to, oh, $45 million. How about reducing the players’ share of hockey-related revenue to less than 50 per cent from 56 per cent, slashing the maximum salary from 20 per cent of the cap to 15 per cent, making a five-year term the maximum and taking a run at guaranteed contracts.

Now think about how Don Fehr will react to all of that.

With revenues up, Fehr will be looking for more, not less. The players will want him to take a run at the hated escrow system, the mathematical configuration that makes the salary cap system work. The players hired Fehr not because he knows the difference between a puck and a pitcher’s mound, but because he has a reputation of playing hardball with owners and winning, even it means work stoppages.

Given all of this, you have to almost bank on the ’12-13 season not starting on time, if at all. The worse the news gets from Phoenix, Columbus, Long Island, etc., the greater likelihood another hockey nightmare is on the way.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey...-lockout-looms

It's not the PA's fault those teams are struggling. The NHL is boasting about league revenue being at all time high. NBC deal. Winter Classic. HBO 24/7. Another long lockout? Please

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http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey...-lockout-looms

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Start with a request for another 24 per cent salary rollback.
If this is true Glen Sather instantly becomes the biggest idiot ever alive. If there is another 24% roll back all the long-term contracts will become insanely good. Like Devils will have Kovalchuk on a 4.5m life-time contract. And we will sit there with our short terms deals and "mobility" come 2012 like the biggest idiots ever when everyone else have tied up their big stars for extreme bargins. Lol only in ranger land.

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According to Damien Cox,the world will come to an end again

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey...-lockout-looms

It's not the PA's fault those teams are struggling. The NHL is boasting about league revenue being at all time high. NBC deal. Winter Classic. HBO 24/7. Another long lockout? Please
I actually don't believe in a lockout either. Or it depends on what the opinion in the NHL front office is on what gives the product quality, and how important quality is all together (like if the NHL only had 30% of the best players in the world, would it make less bucks?).

But a serious attempt from dudes with money to launch a professional league in Europe will be made for sure if there is another NHL lockout. There would be no transfer agreement between that league and the NHL and they could just snatch any player they want. And even some NA's would certainly jump ship to make like 8-9m tax free as opposed to 3-4 after tax in the NHL.

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Cox is an idiot. Ignore the fool, please.

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It's probably too early to ask this question (I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just curious)..

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It's probably too early to ask this question (I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just curious)..
His contract is off the books.

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he has a NMC...he's gonna block any trade, we all know it.
I am not so sure. If Rangers bought him out and he gets signed by for example Cats as a FA he will lose about $ 6-5m in salary..

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I am not so sure. If Rangers bought him out and he gets signed by for example Cats as a FA he will lose about $ 6-5m in salary..
Drury's salary next year is 5 mil. If he gets bought out, he gets 3.33 mil of that. I'm sure someone will sign him for at least a mil, so he won't lose much if anything.

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Drury's salary next year is 5 mil. If he gets bought out, he gets 3.33 mil of that. I'm sure someone will sign him for at least a mil, so he won't lose much if anything.
Well i didn't know that the 3.33 mil will add to an ev. new contract. Apologies for my lack of knowledge

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Fedetenko still being a Ranger. Hope he gets signed for another year.

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Fedetenko still being a Ranger. Hope he gets signed for another year.

http://blueshirtsunited.com/posts/42...ntrepid-museum
How do these kids find out about these events? I'm probably just as bad (if not worse) at hockey as them, I would have fit in perfectly. I would have just went for the autographs.

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How do these kids find out about these events? I'm probably just as bad (if not worse) at hockey as them, I would have fit in perfectly. I would have just went for the autographs.
I get regular emails from the Rangers for this stuff. You probably just have to sign up over at the official website.

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The Rangers have 33 SPCs for 11-12. Capgeek still has Derek Boogaard listed and doesn't have Pavel Valentenko as a signed player which he is.

http://www.capgeek.com/reserve_lists...2&year_id=2011

Brian Ring of the Whale's media staff mentioned it on twitter

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One small correction: Valentenko is not technically a free agent, as he had not fulfilled his Montreal contract due to his time in Russia.
https://twitter.com/#!/brianring/sta...60405300068352

Valentenko is not on the free agent list released by Ring

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The Whale currently have seven restricted free agents:
D – Stu Bickel
G – Chad Johnson
C – John Mitchell
LW – Brodie Dupont
LW – Devin DiDiomete
LW – Justin Soryal
RW – Dale Weise

The Whale have three unrestricted free agents:
C – Todd White
C – Chad Kolarik
RW – Jeremy Williams
http://www.ctwhale.com/default.asp?c...=59&objId=1361

Matt McCue is also a group II. He wasn't a CT Whale player. That's another SPC off the books.

Schoenfeld said Mitchell will be given a QO. Ring wrote Kolarik would be re-signed. Have to figure Weise will be re-signed.

The Rangers have signed 8 players to ELCs and Tommy Grant is too old for the entry level system but he signed his first pro contract. Chris Kreider and Blake Parlett are the other two players which could sign ELCs.

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