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Jarome Iginla
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Toronto's 1st Round Pick- 9th Overall Selection
Boston's 4th Round pick- 115th Overall Selection
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*New conference expected in the morning regarding the trade of former flames captain Jarome Iginla.*

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Toronto's 1st Round Pick- 9th Overall Selection
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*New conference expected in the morning regarding the trade of former flames captain Jarome Iginla.*
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Although Detroit's draft position won't be set until Thursday night, it could be as high as 24 and as low as 30. I'm looking to move up into the middle of the round- 15 to 19ish- but I'd also be open to moving down into the early 2nd for a combination of picks.

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Jarome Iginla
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Toronto's 1st Round Pick- 9th Overall Selection
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*New conference expected in the morning regarding the trade of former flames captain Jarome Iginla.*
How does Boston fit that under the cap?

What kind of dog and pony show is this anyway?

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As an organization it was hard to let Jarome go. He was a great captain and will be missed by his management and teammates. However, given that he will be 34 in just over a month and a half and the direction that the team is headed, it was a move we had to make. Although we were looking to land more for the star winger, it was imperative that we attained the highest draft pick we could get. Given that teams generally in the top 10 are looking to rebuild as well, Boston was the only logical trading partner. We feel that we will get one hell of a player at 9 if we choose to stay at that position.

In addition, we pick up a very underrated defenceman im Kempfer and a late round draft pick that should come in handy. This was essentially for the negotiating rights of Curtis Glencross. He is already 28 and now was the time to move him in order to rebuild for the future. We also freed up a lot of cap space in the process and feel that we can replace his contribution via free agency.

This deal may not have been a steal for the Calgary Flames but in the grand scheme of things we feel we are headed in the right direction.

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PRESS RELEASE | BOSTON GLOBE | May 12th

BRUINS ACQUIRE JAROME IGINLA

It took less then 3 days for GM Soli to leave his mark on the Boston Bruins. Minutes after open season began in the NHL trade market, it was announced that the Boston Bruins and the Calgary Flames had struck a deal that will see the former Flames captain Jarome Iginla don the black and gold next season.

"Trades like these are what every armchair GM out there dreams about. There's so many complexities that go into big deals." said Soli as he addressed a group of reporters at TD Garden.
"Am I getting enough? Is this worth it? Does the money work? And you got a guy on the other end of the phone thinking the same things"

What GM Soli is getting is a superstar.

"I wanted to bring a game breaker to the lineup. The Bruins roster is solid top to bottom, but it was missing that player up front that could grab a game by the throat and dominate it. The kind of player you throw out there on the powerplay or in critical situations down in a game that's going to get you that goal. I'm glad to say we have that now"

Game breaker indeed. Jarome Iginla is one of the games best players. Iginla was 6th in points in the NHL with 86 points last season, he was 3rd in goals lighting the lamp 43 times, 14 of those being powerplay goals, which tied him for 5th in that category.

"He's a 40-goal, PPG player. A real leader who leaves it all out there" said Soli when asked to describe Iginla. "He loves to win, so it's a great opportunity for him to get out of Calgary and join this organization. He's never had a really good center to get him the puck. We have 3."

In acquiring Iginla, GM Soli sent the 9th overall pick (TORs 1st, the remaining piece off the Phil Kessel deal), Bostons 4th round pick, and Steven Kampfer to Calgary. They also received Curtis Glencross, who is a UFA this summer.

"We're talking to Curtis's agent. He's a big part of the trade as well. We expect to get something done. He's the epitome of what it means to be a Bruin."

"We've changed the balance of power here. Not only in the East, but across the landscape of the NHL. Brian O'Neill and Scotty Morrison should invest in property in Boston; the Cup's coming to home."

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How does Boston fit that under the cap?

What kind of dog and pony show is this anyway?

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Milan Lucic ($4.083m) / David Krejci ($3.750m) / Nathan Horton ($4.000m)
Brad Marchand ($0.821m) / Patrice Bergeron ($5.000m) / Jarome Iginla ($7.000m)
Curtis Glencross ($1.200m) / Rich Peverley ($1.325m) / Tyler Seguin ($3.550m)
Daniel Paille ($1.075m) / Greg Campbell ($1.100m) / Shawn Thornton ($0.812m)

DEFENSEMEN
Zdeno Chara ($6.916m) / Dennis Seidenberg ($3.250m)
Tomas Kaberle ($4.250m) / Johnny Boychuk ($1.875m)
Adam McQuaid ($0.575m) / Andrew Ference ($2.250m)

GOALTENDERS
Tim Thomas ($5.000m) / Tuukka Rask ($1.250m)

BUYOUTS: Patrick Eaves ($0.258m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,342,499; BONUSES: $2,650,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $57,501

I dropped Kelly, Ryder won't be re-signed, Savard's money is on LTIR, Recchi won't be back unless he's okay with league minimum. Ference will be replaced with a much cheaper option, and Paille may be on the move as well. I still have to account for Marchand's RFA QO, but that's ~$85000 more.


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How does Boston fit that under the cap?

What kind of dog and pony show is this anyway?
EDIT: lol NVM Soli posted it.

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The Dallas Stars & Montreal Canadians would like to announce a trade.


Stephan Robidas & Jamie Benn




James Wisniewski, Yannick Weber, 2011 1st round selection (17th overall) 3rd round selection 2010

The Dallas stars organization is very excited about these acquisitions.

Dallas Signed James Wisniewski 3.5 million for 3 years (250,000 raise)

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The Dallas Stars & Montreal Canadians would like to announce a trade.


Stephan Robidas & Jamie Benn




James Wisniewski, Yannick Weber, 2011 1st round selection (17th overall) 3rd round selection 2010

The Dallas stars organization is very excited about these acquisitions.

Dallas Signed James Wisniewski 3.5 million for 3 years (250,000 raise)
Trade have to be approved by the NHL Next time please PM before posting. It is approved though.

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Trade have to be approved by the NHL Next time please PM before posting. It is approved though.
haha thanks I gotta be careful next one could cost me like NJ in the Kovalchuk deal

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CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Milan Lucic ($4.083m) / David Krejci ($3.750m) / Nathan Horton ($4.000m)
Brad Marchand ($0.821m) / Patrice Bergeron ($5.000m) / Jarome Iginla ($7.000m)
Curtis Glencross ($1.200m) / Rich Peverley ($1.325m) / Tyler Seguin ($3.550m)
Daniel Paille ($1.075m) / Greg Campbell ($1.100m) / Shawn Thornton ($0.812m)

DEFENSEMEN
Zdeno Chara ($6.916m) / Dennis Seidenberg ($3.250m)
Tomas Kaberle ($4.250m) / Johnny Boychuk ($1.875m)
Adam McQuaid ($0.575m) / Andrew Ference ($2.250m)

GOALTENDERS
Tim Thomas ($5.000m) / Tuukka Rask ($1.250m)

BUYOUTS: Patrick Eaves ($0.258m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,342,499; BONUSES: $2,650,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $57,501

I dropped Kelly, Ryder won't be re-signed, Savard's money is on LTIR, Recchi won't be back unless he's okay with league minimum. Ference will be replaced with a much cheaper option, and Paille may be on the move as well. I still have to account for Marchand's RFA QO, but that's ~$85000 more.
You think Brad Marchand is going to sign for that next year? You didnt even give him his minimum raise. Same with Glencross. Those two players are going to cost you at least four million combined, not two like you have them.

I dont know if you can carry over LTIR from year to year either.

How can you "drop" Kelly? He is under contract. I thought the rules stated you cant bury guys in the minors?

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You think Brad Marchand is going to sign for that next year? You didnt even give him his minimum raise. Same with Glencross. Those two players are going to cost you at least four million combined, not two like you have them.

I dont know if you can carry over LTIR from year to year either.
haha thats soli's problem. the trade is still good to go... he just might not be able to sign certain rfa's and ufa's.

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You think Brad Marchand is going to sign for that next year? You didnt even give him his minimum raise. Same with Glencross. Those two players are going to cost you at least four million combined, not two like you have them.

I dont know if you can carry over LTIR from year to year either.
Yea not to mention having to sign Tomas Kaberle

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You think Brad Marchand is going to sign for that next year? You didnt even give him his minimum raise. Same with Glencross. Those two players are going to cost you at least four million combined, not two like you have them.

I dont know if you can carry over LTIR from year to year either.

How can you "drop" Kelly? He is under contract. I thought the rules stated you cant bury guys in the minors?
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haha thats soli's problem. the trade is still good to go... he just might not be able to sign certain rfa's and ufa's.
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Yea not to mention having to sign Tomas Kaberle
I just have to give UFAs their last cap hit as a marker and RFAs a 10% increase on their QO. Whether I can fit everyone under after I move what space I can... well we'll see. Would I be pushing the "legitimate chance to win a cup" angle? I sure would. We'll see how much capspace I have at the end to dole out ontop of those UFA markers.

Kelly will resolve himself.

I'm pretty sure LTIR works like that. Philly had similar problems with Rathje after the lockout and he was on LTIR for the remaining term of his contract.


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haha thats soli's problem. the trade is still good to go... he just might not be able to sign certain rfa's and ufa's.
I guess it depends what kind of game you want to play.

Do you want it to be based on the real world, or do you want conventional wisdom to fly out the window and just go crazy with wild, fantastical trades?

To make it realistic, Boston would have to be sending back salary.

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I guess it depends what kind of game you want to play.

Do you want it to be based on the real world, or do you want conventional wisdom to fly out the window and just go crazy with wild, fantastical trades?

To make it realistic, Boston would have to be sending back salary.

The problem with the deal is that Jarome is a 40 goal scorer & Glencross is a 20-25 goal scorer thats just not a realistic trade.

Calgary would be looking at a grade A prospect (Seguin), and a roster player (2nd liner at least) or

a higher pick than Boston's (top 5 pick) + a prospect (a 7B, 6A prospect (hockeys future rating)

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I guess it depends what kind of game you want to play.

Do you want it to be based on the real world, or do you want conventional wisdom to fly out the window and just go crazy with wild, fantastical trades?

To make it realistic, Boston would have to be sending back salary.
I sent him Steven Kampfer! He can take Andrew Ference as well if he'd like...

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As an organization it was hard to let Jarome go. He was a great captain and will be missed by his management and teammates. However, given that he will be 34 in just over a month and a half and the direction that the team is headed, it was a move we had to make. Although we were looking to land more for the star winger, it was imperative that we attained the highest draft pick we could get. Given that teams generally in the top 10 are looking to rebuild as well, Boston was the only logical trading partner. We feel that we will get one hell of a player at 9 if we choose to stay at that position.

In addition, we pick up a very underrated defenceman im Kempfer and a late round draft pick that should come in handy. This was essentially for the negotiating rights of Curtis Glencross. He is already 28 and now was the time to move him in order to rebuild for the future. We also freed up a lot of cap space in the process and feel that we can replace his contribution via free agency.

This deal may not have been a steal for the Calgary Flames but in the grand scheme of things we feel we are headed in the right direction.
I think no team would give up there franchise player even if he was in the latter of his career *when he's still producing. This is a guy that is more valuable than in a draft where a 9th overall pick could easily be a bust.

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I guess it depends what kind of game you want to play.

Do you want it to be based on the real world, or do you want conventional wisdom to fly out the window and just go crazy with wild, fantastical trades?

To make it realistic, Boston would have to be sending back salary.
Who am I to say if a trade is realistic or not? The NHL doesn't monitor such trades. Sure its likely it doesn't happen but its not impossible. I'm just monitoring if they can fit it on their cap. Soli has some work to do but he hasn't broke any rules in the process.

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Who am I to say if a trade is realistic or not? The NHL doesn't monitor such trades. Sure its likely it doesn't happen but its not impossible. I'm just monitoring if they can fit it on their cap. Soli has some work to do but he hasn't broke any rules in the process.
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On one hand you say their last caphit will be used for your cap space, then you have a 10% increase for RFA's in the very next sentence. Seems pretty ambiguous.

I can tell you right now Glencross at 1.2 for next year isnt realistic either. Neither is 890k for Marchand who will likely be making around 3mill per on his next contract.

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On one hand you say their last caphit will be used for your cap space, then you have a 10% increase for RFA's in the very next sentence. Seems pretty ambiguous.
Seeing how I wrote that a couple years ago, I'll explain.

UFA & RFA Player. Sign to last contracts caphit for marker. RFA's receive 10% increase as per Qualifying offer.

Or... exactly as it reads. You're smarter than this.

Your problem is you don't agree with their potential contracts. That's fine. But the system that is in place works.

Unless you'd like to handle all RFA and UFA contracts for us in this game?

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