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05-11-2011, 06:54 PM
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I never compared them, you did slick. I said age has nothing to do with it.

And he's not an ironman to me if he has had unreported concussions, I look at him as more of a liability if that was the case.
What was the point of this post by you then? You brought Savard into this discussion.

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Some say its not about age but also the concussion.

How old was Marc Savard?
And I think it's safe to say that Richards did not have unreported concussions -- he's only missed significant time thrice in his career -- two broken bones and the reported concussion this year.

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I wouldn't even consider the time he missed this season "significant". He only missed 10 games.

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I wouldn't even consider the time he missed this season "significant". He only missed 10 games.
Imagine, for example, someone took away your computer for ten games. You tell me if that doesn't seem like significant time

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31 isn't even that old. His age is being way overblown.
people forget that 31 used to be the minimum age for a UFA which is probably why the Rangers have had so much rotten luck / judgement with it.

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Imagine, for example, someone took away your computer for ten games. You tell me if that doesn't seem like significant time
Over the course of a single 82 game season . . . maybe.

Over the course of an 835 game career . . . not even close to significant.

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Imagine, for example, someone took away your computer for ten games. You tell me if that doesn't seem like significant time
Touche on that, but I don't see how it's relevant.

The point is, Richards hasn't missed "significant" time with his concussion. It's not like we're signing Marc Savard or Simon Gagne, here. Any player who has had one is a risk, but with one that didn't affect his game all too much*, it's certainly a worth risk taking, as the player fills the Rangers needs to a tee.

*His play suffered in his first handful of games back, but he regained form in the last few games of the season.

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does anyone know how much cap room were looking at july 1st

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does anyone know how much cap room were looking at july 1st
Too early to tell - we have RFA's to sign, decisions to make on buyouts, trades to consider, etc...

capgeek.com will tell you whatever is up to date.

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Too early to tell - we have RFA's to sign, decisions to make on buyouts, trades to consider, etc...

capgeek.com will tell you whatever is up to date.
With the cap supposedly raised to $62.2m, all the UFAs gone, Redden on the summer cap, MDZ back up, and Boogaard's (RIP) cap removed, the Rangers have about $5.85m to re-sign RFAs and whoever else they would like to sign. That is with this roster:

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CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Sean Avery ($1.937m) / Erik Christensen ($0.925m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($1.850m) / Artem Anisimov ($0.850m) / Ryan Callahan ($2.300m)
Wojtek Wolski ($3.800m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m)
Chris Drury ($7.050m) / Brian Boyle ($0.525m) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Mike Sauer ($0.500m)
Wade Redden ($6.500m) / Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m)
Matt Gilroy ($1.750m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) / Martin Biron ($0.875m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $56,350,000; BONUSES: $1,487,500
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $5,850,000
Then re-sign the RFAs, and reduce Gilroy's salary if he is brought back and the Rangers have -$175,000 in cap space (this is with Drury, Wolski and Redden still on the roster).

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CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Sean Avery ($1.937m) / Erik Christensen ($0.925m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($4.000m) / Artem Anisimov ($1.750m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.000m)
Wojtek Wolski ($3.800m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m)
Chris Drury ($7.050m) / Brian Boyle ($1.500m) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Mike Sauer ($1.500m)
Wade Redden ($6.500m) / Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m)
Matt Gilroy ($1.050m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) / Martin Biron ($0.875m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,375,000; BONUSES: $1,487,500
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): -$175,000
So somebody will have to go. That could be in the form of a demotion (Christensen, MDZ) or a buyout (Drury, Wolski), a trade, or even Redden breaching his contract, but let's assume that the Rangers do the buyout option.

Chris Drury buyout from CapGeek.com
* 2011-12: $3,716,667
* 2012-13: $1,666,667
Wojtek Wolski buyout from CapGeek.com
* 2011-12: $466,667
* 2012-13: $666,667

$4,183,334

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CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Sean Avery ($1.937m) / Erik Christensen ($0.925m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($4.000m) / Artem Anisimov ($1.750m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.000m)
/ Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m)
/ Brian Boyle ($1.500m) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Mike Sauer ($1.500m)
Wade Redden ($6.500m) / Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m)
/ Matt Gilroy ($1.050m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) / Martin Biron ($0.875m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $55,708,334; BONUSES: $1,487,500
CAP SPACE (19-man roster): $6,491,666
BUYOUT TOTAL: $4,183,334
With Redden still on the summer cap, the Rangers would still have just under $6.5 million to fit whoever they want under the cap, they also have 4 roster spots open. Now let's say our dreams come true, and Redden's cap hit is somehow gone. The Rangers would then have 5 roster spots to fill and just under $13 million to spend.

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I don't think they'll buy out Drury. To much $ committed to air next year and the year after with nothing to show for it. Wolksi is probable.

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rangers are going to HAVE to buyout Drury...i mean i dont see any way around that. in which case his summer cap hit is the buyout number instead of the full 7 mil.

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With the cap supposedly raised to $62.2m, all the UFAs gone, Redden on the summer cap, MDZ back up, and Boogaard's (RIP) cap removed, the Rangers have about $5.85m to re-sign RFAs and whoever else they would like to sign. That is with this roster:



Then re-sign the RFAs, and reduce Gilroy's salary if he is brought back and the Rangers have -$175,000 in cap space (this is with Drury, Wolski and Redden still on the roster).



So somebody will have to go. That could be in the form of a demotion (Christensen, MDZ) or a buyout (Drury, Wolski), a trade, or even Redden breaching his contract, but let's assume that the Rangers do the buyout option.

Chris Drury buyout from CapGeek.com
* 2011-12: $3,716,667
* 2012-13: $1,666,667
Wojtek Wolski buyout from CapGeek.com
* 2011-12: $466,667
* 2012-13: $666,667

$4,183,334



With Redden still on the summer cap, the Rangers would still have just under $6.5 million to fit whoever they want under the cap, they also have 4 roster spots open. Now let's say our dreams come true, and Redden's cap hit is somehow gone. The Rangers would then have 5 roster spots to fill and just under $13 million to spend.
Summer cap goes up 10%...Redden's money counts against the cap, but, the cap in the summer would be an additional 10%, or approximately $6.22 million, essentially covering the addition of Redden.

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I don't think they'll buy out Drury. To much $ committed to air next year and the year after with nothing to show for it. Wolksi is probable.
All money tagged to drury is committed to air. The Rangers have to decide if $7m this year is better than $3.2m next year. It's my opinion that he's getting bought out. I think the one lesson teams have learned in the cap world is that it doesn't pay to save cap space for future seasons. The cap keeps rising, there is no such thing as an immovable contract, you can get anyone to waive any kind of no movement clause and you can basically remove a contract if you really really want to. I'm referencing Gomez, Huet, Nylander and McCabe. Drury won't be a Ranger next season.

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All money tagged to drury is committed to air. The Rangers have to decide if $7m this year is better than $3.2m next year. It's my opinion that he's getting bought out. I think the one lesson teams have learned in the cap world is that it doesn't pay to save cap space for future seasons. The cap keeps rising, there is no such thing as an immovable contract, you can get anyone to waive any kind of no movement clause and you can basically remove a contract if you really really want to. I'm referencing Gomez, Huet, Nylander and McCabe. Drury won't be a Ranger next season.
I'm feeling this too. Drury will likely be bought out this offseason and sign a cheap contract and play the 3/4th line for the Avs or Sabres.

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I'm feeling this too. Drury will likely be bought out this offseason and sign a cheap contract and play the 3/4th line for the Avs or Sabres.
yea no doubt but I predict Dru stays close so Isles, Devils even Boston or Philly

Rangers have enough space for Richards and RFAs I just want to see how they handle it. Richards is going to get 7 million over 4 yrs in my opinion

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as much as i hope he signs with the leafs, i still think he'll take a discount to play for torts again. He also stated he wants to play in a place where he can win a cup, and you guys have a better overall team than we do.

The leafs have lots of cap space and we can offer him a big contract if we wanted to, but i just dont see him coming here.

If he doesnt end up signing with you guys i would offer him a 8 year deal that looks something like this; 10,8,8,8,5,3,3,3 (a total of 48 million) which averages out to 6 million a year.

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yea no doubt but I predict Dru stays close so Isles, Devils even Boston or Philly

Rangers have enough space for Richards and RFAs I just want to see how they handle it. Richards is going to get 7 million over 4 yrs in my opinion
No way.

More like near 7 mil for 6 years+.

6.5 for 6 years and I'd be happy, as long as there is no full NMC.

Remember, he's looking for his last major contract in the NHL. Four years ain't gonna cut it.

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as much as i hope he signs with the leafs, i still think he'll take a discount to play for torts again. He also stated he wants to play in a place where he can win a cup, and you guys have a better overall team than we do.

The leafs have lots of cap space and we can offer him a big contract if we wanted to, but i just dont see him coming here.

If he doesnt end up signing with you guys i would offer him a 8 year deal that looks something like this; 10,8,8,8,5,3,3,3 (a total of 48 million) which averages out to 6 million a year.

wow, for a second there i thought you were talking about drury.

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No way.

More like near 7 mil for 6 years+.

6.5 for 6 years and I'd be happy, as long as there is no full NMC.

Remember, he's looking for his last major contract in the NHL. Four years ain't gonna cut it.
perhaps but I have heard he is looking for a shorter deal. Yea it would make sense he wants one more big deal but no one really knows but BR himself

Regardless I think we have the cap space. Only buy out to me is Drury. Wolski should be kept and if he does not pan out half way through the yr I thnk he is tradeable. Avery is staying too

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perhaps but I have heard he is looking for a shorter deal. Yea it would make sense he wants one more big deal but no one really knows but BR himself

Regardless I think we have the cap space. Only buy out to me is Drury. Wolski should be kept and if he does not pan out half way through the yr I thnk he is tradeable. Avery is staying too
I have heard that he wants this to be his last NHL contract so...

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I have heard that he wants this to be his last NHL contract so...
That's what I was afraid of. I've heard 7 years thrown around alot but he's 31, so if he stays healthy the rest of his career is an 8-10 year contract.

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People forget that his last contract was one of the most inflated in the league and he has plenty of money.

He wants to win another cup.

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People forget that his last contract was one of the most inflated in the league and he has plenty of money.

He wants to win another cup.
And he's coming to the Rangers????

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And he's coming to the Rangers????
Considering our biggest problems are a power play and a first line, two issues he helps address handily, yes that does make sense.

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Considering our biggest problems are a power play and a first line, two issues he helps address handily, yes that does make sense.
I guess it could in theory, but still, you just don't associate winning Cups with a team that has 1 in 72 years.

The Orioles could be an ace away form contending, but would I go there if I were an ace? Hell no I'm going to the Yankees because they have the track record.

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