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05-16-2011, 05:41 PM
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Rangers May Bring Back Immonen (Schoenfeld: No interest)

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In two seasons in the Rangers organization, Immonen had 50 goals and 66 assists in 128 games with the Wolf Pack and three goals and six assists in 20 games with the Blueshirts, who didnít re-sign him in 2007. Immonen returned home and played two seasons in Finland and then two in Russia and helped the Finns win the bronze medal in the 2010 Olympics.

The Rangers still retain Immonenís rights, and they havenít forgotten about him. When asked via email Monday if the Rangers might re-sign Immonen, assistant coach/assistant general manager/Connecticut Whale GM Jim Schoenfeld replied from the teamís organizational meetings that began Monday in La Quinta, California: ďHe will be part of the discussion.Ē
http://www.ctwhale.com/default.asp?c...=59&objId=1383

Not sure where he'd fit in our lineup (and he certainly shouldn't make us not pursue Richards) but I think Immonen could be an asset, even with his slow foot speed.

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Interesting as a Leafs fan. He seemed to drop off the face of the planet.

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Immonen likely does not want to leave a very nice job in the KHL for an AHL contract.

They would have to give him 1 way at a reasonable price. If he makes it, great. If not, waive him and let him leave for KHL.

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He was great in the World Championship, and put up pretty good numbers in the KHL (38 points in both of the last two seasons -- for comparison, Jagr put up 51 and 42 points over the same span).

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3rd line RW for Stepan. Seems about right.

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3rd line RW for Stepan. Seems about right.
Just what I was thinking, with the potential to be more. Could be a great younger replacement for Prospal, and would look damn good on the power play.

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3rd line RW for Stepan. Seems about right.
If anything, I'd say he'd have a much easier time earning a spot on the LW. However, I don't recall him ever playing the wing -- I think he was always a center.

LW depth: Dubinsky, Wolski (possible buyout), Fedotenko/Prospal (if re-signed), Avery

RW depth: Gaborik, Callahan, Zuccarello, Prust

If he can play LW, I'd be very happy letting him compete with Hagelin, Grachev, Kreider (if signed), etc. for the 2nd/3rd line LW. Still pursue Richards, and assuming Hagelin, Grachev, and Kreider aren't ready for the big leagues out of camp, run with:

Dubinsky - Richards - Gaborik
Immonen - Anisimov - Callahan
Fedotenko - Stepan - Zuccarello
Avery - Boyle - Prust
Christensen/Weise

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Why not bring back Jagr since played great at the WC? Lets bring in that other Czech forward who everyone seems to talk about this time of the season.

Jarkko Immonen?

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Have the idea that Jarkko wasn't that happy with us the first time around. Can't see him wanting to repeat that without some kind of guarantee that he won't be stuck down in the AHL.

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Why not bring back Jagr since played great at the WC? Lets bring in that other Czech forward who everyone seems to talk about this time of the season?

Jarkko Immonen?
Immonen would cost a lot less than Jagr. For the cost, Immonen would be a low risk, potential high reward move.

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Have the idea that Jarkko wasn't that happy with us the first time around. Can't see him wanting to repeat that without some kind of guarantee that he won't be stuck down in the AHL.
If he doesn't make the NHL roster, we can simply let him return to the KHL.

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Immonen would cost a lot less than Jagr. For the cost, Immonen would be a low risk, potential high reward move.
You missed my point about Jagr. Want no part of that guy. He was a Penguin who tormented the Rangers in the 1992 playoffs.

You're putting too much stock in the World Championships. That's my point.

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I liked Jarkko's game, I thought he wasn't given a fair shot.

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You missed my point about Jagr. Want no part of that guy. He was a Penguin who tormented the Rangers in the 1992 playoffs.

You're putting too much stock in the World Championships. That's my point.
I'm sure you were one of the guys who wanted to move on to the Drury and Gomez era and away from Jagr...how's that working for you?

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If we can't end up signing Richards then bring him over.

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If we can't end up signing Richards then bring him over.
Fail to see what one has to do with the other.

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You missed my point about Jagr. Want no part of that guy. He was a Penguin who tormented the Rangers in the 1992 playoffs.

You're putting too much stock in the World Championships. That's my point.
This is relevant how?

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Fail to see what one has to do with the other.
Agreed.

Immonen would not cost us Richards. We can get both with proper cap maneuvering.

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Fail to see what one has to do with the other.
Plan B.

If we're not gonna go outside to fill the top center need then if I'm Torts I want as many people as possible to audition for that role. Bring him in to add competition.

I'm not saying it's either Richards or Immonen, that would be preposterous. I'm saying that if the Rangers signing Richards fails it's tough to fathom why another potential person to click with Gabby wouldn't be brought over.

Plus I don't really see Jarkko coming over unless he has a guaranteed NHL spot; something I don't think the Rangers can give him.

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Plan B.

If we're not gonna go outside to fill the top center need then if I'm Torts I want as many people as possible to audition for that role. Bring him in to add competition.

I'm not saying it's either Richards or Immonen, that would be preposterous. I'm saying that if Richards fails it's tough to fathom why another potential person to click with Gabby wouldn't be brought over.

Plus I don't really see Jarkko coming over unless he has a guaranteed NHL spot; something I don't think the Rangers can give him.

The two have nothing to do with each other.

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The two have nothing to do with each other.
I'm not saying they go hand in hand but I think if the Rangers fail to bring in a center they certainly have their eyes on (Richards) you might see them make a harder push for Immonen.

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I'm open to it, as I liked Immonen in his brief stint with the club and his time in Hartford. If it doesn't work out, let him go back to Russia.

Nothing wrong with more competition.

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Nothing wrong with more competition.
This is the point I'm trying to make.

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I'm not saying they go hand in hand but I think if the Rangers fail to bring in a center they certainly have their eyes on (Richards) you might see them make a harder push for Immonen.
Again, I don't see the two related at all. The response to missing on a legit #1 center is not collecting "what ifs" and guys who played in the NHL in 5 years.

If they find value in Immomen (and I thing Schoenfeld's comment is hardly enthusiasm or a ringing endorsement), then they'll bring him in Richards or no Richards.

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Also, I think Immonen's lack of foot speed is a tad overblown. He certainly wasn't a swift skater, but I see people talk about him like he was skating in cement.

If we put him on the wing, it would be less of an issue. Vinny Prospal, with his drastically reduced speed, was still able to be a productive player for us.

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