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05-17-2011, 08:43 PM
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Sign me up for Erskine and Bolton.




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I would take anyone of those guys...with Big Mac attack being last on the list.

Ironic how Big Mac and Bolton were both Rangers property at one point.

You would have to trade for Erskine but I would love him on my team any day.

I would take Erskine and Bolton.

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05-17-2011, 08:56 PM
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I could get behind Konopka. Responsible in his own end, fantastic on faceoffs, can help take some of the pressure off of Prust. He's a much better fit on the fourth line than Erik Christensen.

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05-17-2011, 09:15 PM
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Feds/Boyle/Prust should be our de facto 4th line anyway...

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05-17-2011, 09:30 PM
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Feds/Boyle/Prust should be our de facto 4th line anyway...
This, substitute Avery if Feds isn't re-signed.

In addition, while I don't really think Weise showed he was ready for a full season...I'll take him over most of those guys, who aren't much of an improvement over him

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05-17-2011, 09:31 PM
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Feds/Boyle/Prust should be our de facto 4th line anyway...
Aye, completely agree. If Fedotenko - Boyle - Prust is our 4th line next year I'd imagine our roster/offseason shaped up pretty well.

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I've been asking for Erskine since January. He fills the enforcer role but he can also play real hockey as a solid crease-clearing Dman. I was never a fan of pure fighters. I only want hockey players who can also fight. Hockey comes first.

Konopka is passable as a grinder/two-way guy, and is great on faceoffs, so I'd take him.

Iffy on Rypien and Boulton.

Hell ****ing no on MacIntyre. Like I said, I want a hockey player, not Brock Lesnar on skates.

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05-17-2011, 10:42 PM
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Zenon Konopka only made 600,000.00 last season great on face offs and can play a regular shift and not a liability. Prust and Zenon would be a great start to a 4th line.

Eric Boulton a Ranger killer and a guy who can throw down with anyone and pops in a few goals here and there only made 650,000.00

Rick Rypien great team guy coming back from some issues. He is a solid 4th line guy and doesn't make much money 550,000.00

Steve MacIntyre a true monster but not a player at all.

John Erskine a solid number 6 dman and would fill the enforcer role also. makes a little more money 1.25 million
Don't want any more fourth liners. If we need a fighter, can always call up Soryal. What cap we have after the non-Gilroy RFAs (1.75m is just too much for Gilroy) needs to go towards primary scoring and a defenseman of some kind (preferably scoring although another shut down D could do provided we land B. Richards).

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05-17-2011, 10:44 PM
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I've been asking for Erskine since January. He fills the enforcer role but he can also play real hockey as a solid crease-clearing Dman. I was never a fan of pure fighters. I only want hockey players who can also fight. Hockey comes first.
Exactly the case I've been making for Sean O'Donnell for two years. However he takes fewer penalties than Erskine and is better against top line guys. He's old, but he seems to be content playing on one year deals. Cap hit would be similar to Erskine but O'Donnell is (to me at least) the superior player. He doesn't fight often but when he does, he usually lays it down.

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05-17-2011, 10:54 PM
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I'm not for wasting Boyle to the 4th line.

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05-17-2011, 10:59 PM
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Konopka would be a brilliant addition to the Rangers, to smart a free agent move for sather...now if we were trading for him

Have to wonder if Deeds or Soryal will be able to battle for a fourth line spot this year.

Kreider/Prospal - Richards - Gaborik
Dubi - AA - Cally
Avery/Hagelin - Stepan - Zuccarello
Boyle - Konopka - Prust

is a team I'd go ape **** for opening night 2011

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05-17-2011, 11:21 PM
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I feel like we should be able to sign some no-name goon to a reasonable minor league deal. Someone that we can bring up against goon squads like the Isles and Flyers. I don't want to overspend on a goon but having one ready to play, even if it's only for two minutes every 5 games, is worth a small contract. Screw it, I don't even care if the dude can turn on skates. As long as he can hit and fight, sign him for the Whales and bring him up as insurance for our skill guys when needed.

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05-18-2011, 12:37 AM
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Wouldn't object to Konopka or Boulton, but why?

Dubi-Richards-Gaborik
Prospal-Anisimov-Callahan
Hagelin-Stepan-MZA
Fedotenko-Boyle-Prust

That's the lineup that makes the most sense to me, and I'm good with that 4th line.

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05-18-2011, 01:03 AM
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Hagelin-Stepan-MZA
Fedotenko-Boyle-Prust

That's the lineup that makes the most sense to me, and I'm good with that 4th line.
That 4th line will probably get more TOI than our third...

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05-18-2011, 01:26 AM
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How about Carcillo from the Flyers?

Seems fans dont think he will be with the team coming opening night. I think he would be great for the rangers seeing as Avery might not be brought back and the league is not completely against carcillo (they may have an eye on him, but not their foot on his throat like they do with Avery). Kid could be a good pickup for us. Yes he is an agitator that has created a lot of bad blood on our team, but so did Lindros, McCarthy and others and that worked out OK

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No thanks. I rather just have all our players eventually figure out how to stick up for Lundqvist. If they learn that, we won't need an enforcer. If someone runs into him, I don't mind taking a penalty sticking up for him.

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05-18-2011, 01:31 AM
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The 4th line is the least of our problems

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05-18-2011, 01:34 AM
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I feel like we should be able to sign some no-name goon to a reasonable minor league deal. Someone that we can bring up against goon squads like the Isles and Flyers.
the following sentence I am about to write is in NO WAY meant as a distasteful sentence, or knock on the guy at ALL...

But, Sather doesnt have a good history on hiring a goon during free-agency. I understand he can GET a goon but the price he pays is way too much. Case in point, Boogard. God Rest His Soul.

But the price we paid to have Boogey here scares the hell out of me that Sather would throw 1.6 MILLION to Zenopka

Again, not trying to be disrespectful as I understand the wounds are still VERY new and sore over the unfortunate loss of Derek Boogard. But we ALL know Sather crapped the bed when he gave out that huge contract to Derek. Again not taking away the type of player Derek was or the Man he was. Just saying we overpaid tremendously. 1.6 for a kid that hadnt scored in 234 games? A kid who can ONLY fight. Not a good signing at all and I am scared to death that Sather might go out and try and replace Derek with another lesser type role player for the same cap hit

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Our entire 2010 draft was supposed to address team toughness. We shouldn't have to sign any goons or 4th liners.

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05-18-2011, 01:38 AM
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the following sentence I am about to write is in NO WAY meant as a distasteful sentence, or knock on the guy at ALL...

But, Sather doesnt have a good history on hiring a goon during free-agency. I understand he can GET a goon but the price he pays is way too much. Case in point, Boogard. God Rest His Soul.

But the price we paid to have Boogey here scares the hell out of me that Sather would throw 1.6 MILLION to Zenopka

Again, not trying to be disrespectful as I understand the wounds are still VERY new and sore over the unfortunate loss of Derek Boogaard. But we ALL know Sather crapped the bed when he gave out that huge contract to Derek. Again not taking away the type of player Derek was or the Man he was. Just saying we overpaid tremendously. 1.6 for a kid that hadnt scored in 234 games? A kid who can ONLY fight. Not a good signing at all and I am scared to death that Sather might go out and try and replace Derek with another lesser type role player for the same cap hit
Konopka can actually play hockey, Boogard couldn't. Not that he's worth 1.4 mil/year, but i would be much more comfortable having him under that salary than Boogy.

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05-18-2011, 03:14 AM
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Mike Rupp would be a good addition if he didn't cost too much. He can take a regular shift and is capable of knocking in 10 goals a year. As a HW he can hold his own.

Erskine as well is a guy who can play and would give us some physicality in front of our net--if he is available.

Konopka--some day might put up some better numbers. Apart from that he's fantastic on faceoffs. Not really a HW but like Prust he'll fight anyone.

Pound for pound Rypien is as tough as it gets but he's too damn small. Kind of like PJ Stock.

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Immonen/Prospal/Brunette - Richards - Gaborik
Dubi - AA - Cally
Boyle - Stepan - MZA
Feds/Avery/Hagelin/Grachev - Konopka - Prust

2 to 3 places up for grabs
Almost there...

Prospal - Christ - Gaborik
Dubi - AA - Cally
Avery/Drury - Stepan - MZA
Feds/Hagelin - Boyle - Prust

is not the team I wanna see (again) next year...


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05-18-2011, 06:08 AM
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Yeah, let's keep throwing cash at guys who are of zero value. That policy has been wildly successful.

Sather has proved incapable of developing 1st line talent. To think that he can't produce 4th line talent and must repeatedly trade or go to free agency to accomplish this is sad.

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05-18-2011, 07:15 AM
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When looking at the holes of this team, it astounds me that people think this conversation is important or even care about it in the least.

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On a team with serious gaps at the top of their line up, a log jam at the bottom, and considerable cap issues, finding and subsequently over paying for a UFA to round out the 4th line would be amazingly stupid

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