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05-20-2011, 01:24 AM
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"With the 7th pick in the 2011 NHL Draft the Winnipeg Thrashjets select....................."

Then the prospect they select immediately retires

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05-20-2011, 01:42 AM
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Seriously. Though I have a hard time sympathizing for millionaire pro athletes.
To be fair Byfuglien seemed pretty happy to sign longterm in Atlanta and talked about the possibility of growing game withing Africian American community in Atlanta

So yeah you should have some sympathy for Buff given what he thought he was going to help create by longterm playing in Atlanta

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I feel bad for the loyal Thrasher fans out there.

As stated above, I'm not really sure why the NHL bends over backward to try and save the Coyotes yet they are more then willing to move the Thrashers. Very odd.

In the grand scheme they are just moving chess pieces around a rotting chess board. There are just too many teams in markets that can't/wont support them. Contraction is what needs to happen, but thats the ultimate taboo
This is so wrong and a completely terrible idea for the NHL on so many different levels.

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05-20-2011, 01:57 AM
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The MTS Centre only holds 15,000 for hockey.

Atleast they'll sell the place out
True North (the parent company that owns the MTS Centre) has said they will expand the arena if an NHL team comes in as a tenant and from what I recall, there is the ability to expand the arena by 2,000 to 3,000 seats. The province has also pledged support to True North in terms of helping to offset arena upgrade costs and assist with debt payments for the existing debt on the arena to help free up money for the team.

Btw guys, Winnipeg isn't some igloo-ridden wasteland. Winters can be cold, yes, but it's rather disappointing to see some posters belittle Winnipeg in here. This is a big day for us, and we have waited a long time to get a team back, a team which was well supported before it even left. The team played one more year in Winnipeg on the backs of fans who literally emptied their back accounts and piggy banks just to pay to keep the club. Can't we part the negative comments until after we have sobered up from what will be one heckuva party?

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05-20-2011, 01:58 AM
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It's tough to do, but have you ever been to Winnipeg?

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http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...ipeg-move.html

Sounds like they are just arguing over the relocation fee... Looks like a done deal. Very fascinating. I would assume they would change the name to the jets even though it isn't the same franchise. I wouldn't mind it, as the Jets were one of my most liked teams growing up. I wonder about the division implications this will have. This could be a very exciting offseason.

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I sure hope they keep the Jets colors. Those jerseys were great.

On an unrelated note, one of the hardest hits I ever witnessed was Dave Taylor laying out some poor Jet. I was sitting in the upper reaches of the colonnade and you could clearly hear the hit - and it was an open ice hit, not into the boards. Took a while for them to scrape the guy off the ice.

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http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...ipeg-move.html

Sounds like they are just arguing over the relocation fee... Looks like a done deal. Very fascinating. I would assume they would change the name to the jets even though it isn't the same franchise. I wouldn't mind it, as the Jets were one of my most liked teams growing up. I wonder about the division implications this will have. This could be a very exciting offseason.
There seems to be dispute over Jets name/Trademark

Coyotes claim it while others say it is owned by NHL exclusively.

Also the guys buying the Thrashers apparantly want something stupid involving Manitoba in name

Some have suggested Manitoba Moose (There AHL team name) would become there NHL team name which to me would be

Los Angles Kings vs Manitoba Moose ,,,,,,, Yeah that will work out real well

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If the Canadian dollar wasn't stronger than than the greenback, I wonder if the NHL would be trying harder to keep the Thrashers in Atlanta.

That 3.5 adds up.

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Awesome the Winnipeg got a team. Really happy for the fans there and I'll definitely be watching them every chance I get.

Going to be one hell of a party in Winnipeg

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05-20-2011, 04:32 AM
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Running bets on how many seasons before Winnipeg fans stop showing up to games and the Thrashers are moved again?

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05-20-2011, 08:21 AM
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There seems to be dispute over Jets name/Trademark

Coyotes claim it while others say it is owned by NHL exclusively.

Also the guys buying the Thrashers apparantly want something stupid involving Manitoba in name

Some have suggested Manitoba Moose (There AHL team name) would become there NHL team name which to me would be

Los Angles Kings vs Manitoba Moose ,,,,,,, Yeah that will work out real well
If they go back as anything other then the Winnipeg Jets it will be a shame. The Manitoba Moose is just an AWFUL NHL name.

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Running bets on how many seasons before Winnipeg fans stop showing up to games and the Thrashers are moved again?
you know the team was well supported before they were moved to Phoenix right?

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That RIM dude sure looks silly, now.

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I just think it's funny that, not since about 80 or 90 years ago have Seattle had a major league hockey team. What is it about the American Pacific Northwest that the NHL is afraid of? Sasquatch?

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I hope they go back to the name Winnipeg Jets and Teemu signs and plays his final season there.

Nostalgic for me, and beneficial for the Kings.

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I just think it's funny that, not since about 80 or 90 years ago have Seattle had a major league hockey team. What is it about the American Pacific Northwest that the NHL is afraid of? Sasquatch?
NHL showed interest in Seattle but city and former Sonics owner rebuffed them in early 90's and redesigned the Key Arena to make hockey impossible intentionally

And no one has ever stepped up to purchase a team to move to Seattle + Now the Key Arena is outdated dump designed against hockey and there will be no new arena built anytime soon

Paul Allen flirted with Pens in Portland but his interest in hockey has been lukewarm and since he owns the Rose Garden in Portland if he isn't on board then it wont happen

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It's tough to do, but have you ever been to Winnipeg?
Actually, yea. So I know what your getting at.

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Handzus is going to look great in a Jets jersey.

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you know the team was well supported before they were moved to Phoenix right?
Depends on your definition of well supported.

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Another Winnipeg Kings fan here with my opinion.

The Jets moved not because lack of interest, but cause the canadian dollar then was horrible and the Jets had a subpar arena with a lack of ownership. We already had hundreds of people flood downtown Winnipeg when that article was published. People here are hockey crazy.

Winnipeg itself is a beautiful city, with it's problem areas (what city doesn't). In particular our "native" problem (hate to say it but stereotypes are true), though downtown has got a lot better in later years. I don't feel unsafe being downtown anymore at night. The city itself is growing and improving every year and the stereotypes of Winnipeg are just mental.

Our summers are really nice, and there are only a few months of winter (which can get pretty cold but it's not even that bad.), so Ilya Bryzgolov can suck it. Plus we have my favorite microbrewery here in Fort Garry.

All that being said, i'll still be rooting for my Kings when they play, nothing will ever change that

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I actually don't mind Atlanta as a market.
... I do. It sucked.

2010-11 attendance: 81.4% of capacity (tied for last in the NHL)
2009-10 attendance: 82.9% of capacity (29th)
2008-09 attendance: 85.8% of capacity (last)
2007-08 attendance: 88.3% of capacity (tied for 25th)
2006-07 attendance: 88.9% of capacity (21st)

The NHL never should have went back there. Once the novelty wore off, they had nothing. At least Winnipeg loves hockey and will support it consistently.

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I thought Nashville was bizarre but look at what's happened there.
... Yep, why don't we do just that. Let's look at what has happened there.

Starting in 2006-07, they've been 24th, 23rd, 22nd, 22nd, and 19th in the NHL in attendance. Not too impressive if you ask me.

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... Yep, why don't we do just that. Let's look at what has happened there.

Starting in 2006-07, they've been 24th, 23rd, 22nd, 22nd, and 19th in the NHL in attendance. Not too impressive if you ask me.
You're right, growing attendance for a team that's only 12 years old is bad . . . .

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Another Winnipeg Kings fan here with my opinion.

The Jets moved not because lack of interest, but cause the canadian dollar then was horrible and the Jets had a subpar arena with a lack of ownership. We already had hundreds of people flood downtown Winnipeg when that article was published. People here are hockey crazy.
Lack of ownership being the key. Bettman has said (and it's one of the few things I believe that has come out of his mouth) that no team would be relocated if ownership weren't an issue. Winnipeg at the time could not find an owner, hence they were moved.

The same thing is happening with the Thrashers. The Thrashers would still be in Atlanta if they had an owner willing to keep the team there.

Phoenix is a unique situation because the NHL was forced to purchase the team to protect their interests due to legal issues and the city of Glendale has a financial stake involved - neither of which apply to the Thrashers.

At the end of the day, so long as the teams with NHL clubs have ownership willing to spend the money to support the team in that city, there will never be a club move involved. The NHL's mistake was not having sound ownership in Atlanta from the beginning. Their ownership requirements weren't as stringent at the time and they're paying an embarrassing price for it today.

As far as cities - Hamilton would have been a better city for an NHL team to land in than Winnipeg. I'm happy for Winnipeg residents that Winnipeg has a team again, but if I were to rank desirable destinations for NHL teams in Canada - Hamilton would be ahead of Winnipeg.

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