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05-17-2011, 03:22 PM
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With these new found issues regarding concussions, the NHL should SERIOUSLY look into banning hockey. I think its about time.

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With these new found issues regarding concussions, the NHL should SERIOUSLY look into banning hockey. I think its about time.
It's getting there

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05-20-2011, 12:42 PM
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Brooks tweeted that the Hennepin ME has ruled it was an accidental mix of alcohol and oxycodone that killed Boogaard.

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Brooks tweeted that the Hennepin ME has ruled it was an accidental mix of alcohol and oxycodone that killed Boogaard.
Awful awful news. Heart goes out to his family.

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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hocke...of-death_N.htm

MINNEAPOLIS A medical examiner in Minnesota has ruled the death of New York Rangers enforcer Derek Boogaard (FSY) was an accident, due to mixing alcohol and oxycodone.

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05-20-2011, 01:06 PM
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Terrible.

I figured it had to do with drugs. Poor guy. Sad for his family.

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05-20-2011, 01:14 PM
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That's sad but kind of knew it was due to something like that

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05-20-2011, 01:27 PM
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Yesterday, during the Commissioner Hour (NHL on XM), Bettman sort of alluded to this.

He said people need to stop speculating until the results are announced...

I'm already seeing some people continue to speculate that it was a by-product of his previous head injuries. Of course this is complete speculation...

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05-20-2011, 02:06 PM
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I work at Speers in Regina where we will have the honour of paying homage to Mr Boogaards life this Saturday.

I thought I would post the link where you can sign, read the register or light a cnadle on his behalf if you so please.


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05-20-2011, 02:10 PM
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Terrible.

I figured it had to do with drugs. Poor guy. Sad for his family.
Which, isn`t unheard of in regards to how individuals often deal with the side effects, long term effects that concussions can have on one emotional/mental state ie: depression amongst many other symptoms of the injury

Any way you cut it, terribly sad to see anyone`s life end far too prematurely.

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05-20-2011, 05:50 PM
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nothing to see here, just an idiot posting....


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05-20-2011, 06:16 PM
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No offense but what sort of idiot drinks alcohol while taking prescription pain killers? Besides just having plain common sense it says it right on the ******* bottle. Sorry if I sound uncaring, but angry this guy's gone and his family has to go through this for basically not knowing what the **** he was putting into his system.
Pretty sure he knew...not exactly pez he was popping. Saying it was an accident is also speculation.

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No offense but what sort of idiot drinks alcohol while taking prescription pain killers? Besides just having plain common sense it says it right on the ******* bottle. Sorry if I sound uncaring, but angry this guy's gone and his family has to go through this for basically not knowing what the **** he was putting into his system.
It seems like you'd have to be an idiot to become an addict, but it can't be further from the truth. When you're addicted to something, you're addicted...that's the point. You're not making conscious decisions as to what is good and bad for you...oxycodine is an incredibly addictive drug...once you are addicted, you feel as if you can't live without it. If you really think an addiction is as easy to address as just not doing it because the label on the bottle says not to, then you really have no idea what going through something like this entails. Addiction takes over your life and ruins it. Not much else outside of drugs matters. Horrible, horrible thing.

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05-20-2011, 06:40 PM
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It seems like you'd have to be an idiot to become an addict, but it can't be further from the truth. When you're addicted to something, you're addicted...that's the point. You're not making conscious decisions as to what is good and bad for you...oxycodine is an incredibly addictive drug...once you are addicted, you feel as if you can't live without it. If you really think an addiction is as easy to address as just not doing it because the label on the bottle says not to, then you really have no idea what going through something like this entails. Addiction takes over your life and ruins it. Not much else outside of drugs matters. Horrible, horrible thing.
I've been around it my whole life (albeit not with pharmaceuticals), and honestly I didn't read between the lines on this story...Hearing "accidental" I didn't put two and two together....

My apologies if I offended anyone...

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05-20-2011, 07:02 PM
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All those speculating about concussions and fighting need to step back and evaluate the facts:

1. Boogaard suffered a bad concussion this year and likely had many others in his career.

2. Boogaard was in the league's substance abuse program.

3. Boogaard died at 28. There were no reports that he was suffering from memory loss, lack of coordination, vision problems, or anything else resembling brain trauma.


Even if Derek died of either depression (suicide) or brain hemorrhaging, there are very likely too many mitigating factors to say that this was caused by concussions. Depression is a common symptom of drug withdrawal and/or relapsing and a hemorrhage or something like that could most likely have been caused by something other than a concussion he suffered months ago (e.g. a bad mix of medicines).


Occam's Razor isn't buying this "fighting -> concussion -> death" link. There's too much else, just like Probert. Even if he showed signs of CTE, it's almost impossible to say that led to depression at 28 and thus, his death. If you're making that claim, there are a lot of holes to fill in the story and a lot of mitigating factors.
If Boogaard had CTE, it was caused by blows to the head. There's no connection between drug abuse and CTE.

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It seems like you'd have to be an idiot to become an addict, but it can't be further from the truth. When you're addicted to something, you're addicted...that's the point. You're not making conscious decisions as to what is good and bad for you...oxycodine is an incredibly addictive drug...once you are addicted, you feel as if you can't live without it. If you really think an addiction is as easy to address as just not doing it because the label on the bottle says not to, then you really have no idea what going through something like this entails. Addiction takes over your life and ruins it. Not much else outside of drugs matters. Horrible, horrible thing.
Very true. A family friend had back surgery about 5 or 6 years ago and got hooked on his pain medication. He never abused them initially, never took more than what the side of the bottle said, but when it came time for him to come off it his body just wouldn't let him. He was the last type of person you would ever expect to develop a drug problem. Hard working guy married for 25+ years, built a good life for his family, was working on putting his son through college. Yet a year after the surgery he was a full blown addict doing whatever it took to get more pills or any kind of drug that would substitute. You never know what kind of circumstances lead to these problems for people and it truly does ruin peoples lives (friends and family of the addicts as well). Thankfully in this case, he's been off any drugs for 2 years as of last month and his family is back together fully supporting his recovery, but he almost lost everything he worked for in life like is the case with so many addiction stories that don't have happy endings. You really can't look at someone with a drug problem and just dismiss them as a junkie.

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Incredibly sad. Reminds me of the Heath Ledger incident. RIP Boogard. I had a lot of respect for him.

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If Boogaard had CTE, it was caused by blows to the head. There's no connection between drug abuse and CTE.
Right. I never claimed there was. You misunderstood my post.

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Very true. A family friend had back surgery about 5 or 6 years ago and got hooked on his pain medication. He never abused them initially, never took more than what the side of the bottle said, but when it came time for him to come off it his body just wouldn't let him. He was the last type of person you would ever expect to develop a drug problem. Hard working guy married for 25+ years, built a good life for his family, was working on putting his son through college. Yet a year after the surgery he was a full blown addict doing whatever it took to get more pills or any kind of drug that would substitute. You never know what kind of circumstances lead to these problems for people and it truly does ruin peoples lives (friends and family of the addicts as well). Thankfully in this case, he's been off any drugs for 2 years as of last month and his family is back together fully supporting his recovery, but he almost lost everything he worked for in life like is the case with so many addiction stories that don't have happy endings. You really can't look at someone with a drug problem and just dismiss them as a junkie.
How true ! This happens to good people all the time. What it comes down to is how strong is his or her will to end the vicious cycle of prescription drugs. Very sad to see it end a decent person's life. It makes you think about how short life can be if you let drugs control it .


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If Boogaard had CTE, it was caused by blows to the head. There's no connection between drug abuse and CTE.
There is a relationship with CTE and chronic depression though. Drug abuse is a symptom of chronic depression. Lots of enforcers, boxers etc battle drug abuse and have CTE so the relationship is obvious.

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