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05-21-2011, 05:30 PM
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I can't remember the last time I posted in here during a game. I have a new job and it's draining me. Love that I am working again and not sapping the unemployment system, but this late hockey stuff sucks. I literally fought tooth and nail to stay awake through the end of Game 3, in fact, but I did it -- and passed out within five minutes!

Glad to see the Sharks rebound. Hopefully they can pull even tomorrow afternoon and then take the Best of 3.

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05-21-2011, 05:38 PM
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I will say this, sometimes people say things they regret in the heat of the moment, I for example did just this many times these playoffs, including last night.

The problem is, if there is a huge amount of people venting at the same time, then it looks way worse then it should.
don't even mean that, look at the JT thread for example, guy named diggler is trolling everyone in that thread. other threads have other nucktrolls. i don't see any sharktrolls nearly that bad.

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05-21-2011, 06:20 PM
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I think it was a good hit. He wasn't taking any strides before the hit so I don't think it could have been charging... 2 min. boarding at the most.
The coach disagrees with you. With charging, it's not simply about strides. It's about distance traveled and the speed of the player. McGinn went in very hot without letting up. He needed to show much better discipline in that situation when they had the game in hand. I know he has to finish his checks and be an energy guy but you have to pick your spots and that was a poor spot to do that in and it almost cost the team.

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05-21-2011, 06:29 PM
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Hahahahaha. Let's never refer to any Sharks lead as "having a game in hand"

This team is incapable of locking down an opponent with any kind of lead and preferring that they not continue to hit guys up 4-1 with ten minutes left is asking for it.

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Hahahahaha. Let's never refer to any Sharks lead as "having a game in hand"

This team is incapable of locking down an opponent with any kind of lead and preferring that they not continue to hit guys up 4-1 with ten minutes left is asking for it.
Let's put it another way then. They were in as good of a position to win the game as they are going to get. I'm sorry but no big hit is worth a five minute major and going for a hit is no different than going for a stick lift or a poke check. You have to pick your spots intelligently.

This isn't about choosing to let up in all situations physically. This is about not hitting players in vulnerable positions and not doing things to put your team in a bad spot. It's a poor decision on McGinn's part to go for that hit. And I'm not advocating that he stops hitting players. That's ridiculous. He has to be smarter about applying the hits and go for guys that are at least PARTIALLY facing him at some point when he's going in.

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05-21-2011, 06:59 PM
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The coach disagrees with you. With charging, it's not simply about strides. It's about distance traveled and the speed of the player. McGinn went in very hot without letting up. He needed to show much better discipline in that situation when they had the game in hand. I know he has to finish his checks and be an energy guy but you have to pick your spots and that was a poor spot to do that in and it almost cost the team.
I agree with your overall point about McGinn needing to be smarter. That's been the knock on him all season - hockey IQ.

But on this play he stopped his stride about 10 or 15' away from Rome. Basically, if you drew a line from the right faceoff circle dot to the goal, McGinn's last stride was slightly before that. He's just so fast and strong that that much speed, even without taking another stride, gave him enough force to knock Rome out.

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05-21-2011, 07:04 PM
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I agree with your overall point about McGinn needing to be smarter. That's been the knock on him all season - hockey IQ.

But on this play he stopped his stride about 10 or 15' away from Rome. Basically, if you drew a line from the right faceoff circle dot to the goal, McGinn's last stride was slightly before that. He's just so fast and strong that that much speed, even without taking another stride, gave him enough force to knock Rome out.
Hockey IQ is very important. Playoffs is where the disciplined win and the wild sometimes can be a pain. Eager or McGinn I guess we might have another fresh new
4th line come game 4 once again.

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05-21-2011, 07:06 PM
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I agree with your overall point about McGinn needing to be smarter. That's been the knock on him all season - hockey IQ.

But on this play he stopped his stride about 10 or 15' away from Rome. Basically, if you drew a line from the right faceoff circle dot to the goal, McGinn's last stride was slightly before that. He's just so fast and strong that that much speed, even without taking another stride, gave him enough force to knock Rome out.
Stopping your stride is not really letting up. He knows how fast he is and he saw Rome's positioning well before laying the boom on him. He's got to either stop up and hit him or skate by because taking the five minutes which is going to happen every time that he is in that very same spot is not the way to go.

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05-21-2011, 07:12 PM
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So the McGinn thing has been discussed enough, everyone has there view and no one is going to change their opinion, so to bring somethign fresh in here:

Those Canucks fans that were at the arena before they game started were pretty annoying. They did a good job of getting on Sharks fans nerves. It was kind of funny though cause I went out to smoke before the game started and one of the Canucks fans was out there talking on the phone with his girlfriend when I over heard this. "Babe, this is going to be a good game for the Canucks. Half of the Arena is Canucks fans. It will be just like a home game for them."

I threw my cigerette down and told him "Dude, your full of ****, 200 people does not make up half the arena."

He just smiled and said, "no man, go look, I'm not lying."

Anyways, they were anoying, I much perfer the 1000 Red wing fans who are a lot less obnoxious.

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05-21-2011, 07:16 PM
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So the McGinn thing has been discussed enough, everyone has there view and no one is going to change their opinion, so to bring somethign fresh in here:

Those Canucks fans that were at the arena before they game started were pretty annoying. They did a good job of getting on Sharks fans nerves. It was kind of funny though cause I went out to smoke before the game started and one of the Canucks fans was out there talking on the phone with his girlfriend when I over heard this. "Babe, this is going to be a good game for the Canucks. Half of the Arena is Canucks fans. It will be just like a home game for them."

I threw my cigerette down and told him "Dude, your full of ****, 200 people does not make up half the arena."

He just smiled and said, "no man, go look, I'm not lying."

Anyways, they were anoying, I much perfer the 1000 Red wing fans who are a lot less obnoxious.
I arrived about 25 minutes before the puck dropped, when the teams were practicing. I was amazed how many Nucks fans there were. Seemed more than Wings fans at Wings games.

and the Nucks fans are obnoxious, I agree. Some bozo kid got the boot in the 3rd period and was taunting the crowd as he got escorted out. Many wanted to jump him but no one wanted to get kicked out.

These Nucks fans seem like they've never been there. No idea how to act. Wait, guess they haven't.

I've been to many Sharks road games and I know we're not as obnoxious as they were.

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05-21-2011, 07:22 PM
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I arrived about 25 minutes before the puck dropped, when the teams were practicing. I was amazed how many Nucks fans there were. Seemed more than Wings fans at Wings games.

and the Nucks fans are obnoxious, I agree. Some bozo kid got the boot in the 3rd period and was taunting the crowd as he got escorted out. Many wanted to jump him but no one wanted to get kicked out.

These Nucks fans seem like they've never been there. No idea how to act. Wait, guess they haven't.

I've been to many Sharks road games and I know we're not as obnoxious as they were.
I don't think there were more Nukcs fans then wings fans. I just think the Nucks fans were like Ants, all congregating to one spot and working off eachothers feromoans.

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I don't think there were more Nukcs fans then wings fans. I just think the Nucks fans were like Ants, all congregating to one spot and working off eachothers feromoans.
They also just seemed cockier. Or at least the ones near me.

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They also just seemed cockier. Or at least the ones near me.
transplant nuck fans aer the worst. i went to a hockey bar in san diego, and it was packed with nuck fans, who were rowdy, taunting everyone, and generally just being total *****. have no idea how san diego ended up with so many vancouverites, guess that's what happens when canada has no tech jobs and they all flood silicon valley, LA, and SD

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Is anyone worried the canucks will be out for revenge? I wouldn't put it past Torres to try to end Boyle's season. Sure, Torres will get suspended but the canucks will win the series if the sharks lose Boyle. Boyle is probably the sharks' most important player.

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05-21-2011, 07:35 PM
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Is anyone worried the canucks will be out for revenge? I wouldn't put it past Torres to try to end Boyle's season. Sure, Torres will get suspended but the canucks will win the series if the sharks lose Boyle. Boyle is probably the sharks' most important player.
I doubt it. I'm more worried they really start playing disciplined and stop taking stupid penalties. 5x5 (other than Jumbo's line) has favored the Nucks, IMO.

Edit: if a Torres or Flopierre start taking runs at our top players, we'll do the same to the sisters. It just escalates which neither team can afford...

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Considering the canucks fanbase on HF is one of the largest, probably more then LA/Detroit/chicago combined, it makes perfect sense that there are more bad posters and trolls.

Lets not pretend all shark fans have been perfectly behaved here also.

This is the playoffs, it's always like this. You should have checked out the montreal vs boston threads, it was 100x worse then anything the canucks/sharks/detroit/chicago did.
Your posting is unbearable as well. You come in here before the series starts and warn us about the nefarious trolls that don't represent your fanbase then you go into the main board GDT with your five-digit post count and wear the homer glasses thick and proud.

There, I said it.

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I doubt it. I'm more worried they really start playing disciplined and stop taking stupid penalties. 5x5 (other than Jumbo's line) has favored the Nucks, IMO.

Edit: if a Torres or Flopierre start taking runs at our top players, we'll do the same to the sisters. It just escalates which neither team can afford...
I don't want to see either team start an arms race, it's not in anybody's best interest. There's still another series to play after this.

The Canucks were definitely playing their best when they were disciplined. As a Canucks fan, I don't want our team to start to take deliberate runs at players or any of that kind of nonsense.

May the rest of the series be fair, and may the best team win in an honest fashion.

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Your posting is unbearable as well. You come in here before the series starts and warn us about the nefarious trolls that don't represent your fanbase then you go into the main board GDT with your five-digit post count and wear the homer glasses thick and proud.

There, I said it.
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I will say this, sometimes people say things they regret in the heat of the moment, I for example did just this many times these playoffs, including last night.

The problem is, if there is a huge amount of people venting at the same time, then it looks way worse then it should.
I think you need to read this post that I made a few hours ago.

Like I said, I have also done things I regret, at least i came out and admitted it.

When people get very emotional for things they are passionate for, sometimes things get said they regret, it happens often in life as well. I don't think this is a "canucks" issue in a sense, it's more of a very common pattern, and while it can be frustrating at times, I have seen it happen countless times with basically every fanbase.

And about being a homer, Of course I am a canucks homer, just like you are a sharks homer, While I can be objective at times, my heart still lies with the team I have followed for 15 years, I don't think anybody can expect 100% non-bias comments.

(then again, how can you have balls over the internet, now that's something to ponder about!)


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I find it kind of lame when some people make broad sweeping comments about a fan base based on the actions of a few.

There are a lot of D-bag Sharks fans out there, and many that go to these games here.

I don't like being lumped in with the masses based on when some ****** in a Sharks jersey behaves poorly at home or in someone else's barn. I bet some of you wouldn't either.

Also, posters that post on message boards are hardly representative of a fan base as a whole. The vast majority of fans for any sport don't spend most of their days on these things like we do.

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I find it kind of lame when some people make broad sweeping comments about a fan base based on the actions of a few.

There are a lot of D-bag Sharks fans out there, and many that go to these games here.

I don't like being lumped in with the masses based on when some ****** in a Sharks jersey behaves poorly at home or in someone else's barn. I bet some of you wouldn't either.

Also, posters that post on message boards are hardly representative of a fan base as a whole. The vast majority of fans for any sport don't spend most of their days on these things like we do.
Very true, I would consider HF boards more of the "hardcore" crowd of nhl fans then anything. And I am most def sure there are more casual fans then hardcore fans out there.

A good example of this is I only discovered forums 5 years ago, before then I was still watching every game, but had many different opinions on certain things.

Just my personal opinion, not trying 2 speak for our whole fanbase here


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