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05-23-2011, 02:35 PM
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Philly/Phoenix

Flyers need some grit and size up front, also some veteran leadership IMO. After watching Doaner in the first round this year, I'd love to have him on my team and I've heard that PHX has asked for Carter in the past.

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Carter
Versteeg

to Phoenix for:

Doan
rights to Bryzgalov
2nd round pick (1st if Bryz doesn't sign in Philly)

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If I'm the Flyers, I do this in a second.

Maybe it's just my biased Devils-fans-view on Carter, but he won't amount to much, other than a flashy, big scorer with little motivation but a whole lot of ego.

Flyers get a gritty, scoring winger in Doan and their goalie.

I hate the Flyers, but this would make Philadelphia one hell of a team next year.

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Flyers give up too much

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Flyers need some grit and size up front, also some veteran leadership IMO. After watching Doaner in the first round this year, I'd love to have him on my team and I've heard that PHX has asked for Carter in the past.

Philadelphia trades:

Carter
Versteeg

to Phoenix for:

Doan
rights to Bryzgalov
2nd round pick (1st if Bryz doesn't sign in Philly)

I am sure the Flyers could get the rights to Bryzgalov and conditional 2nd for Versteeg alone, so I don't see why we would ever trade Carter straight up for Doan at this point. I'd want a lot more back if we're sending Carter to Phoenix.

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If I'm the Flyers, I do this in a second.

Maybe it's just my biased Devils-fans-view on Carter, but he won't amount to much, other than a flashy, big scorer with little motivation but a whole lot of ego.

Flyers get a gritty, scoring winger in Doan and their goalie.

I hate the Flyers, but this would make Philadelphia one hell of a team next year.
That's exactly what it is.

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That's exactly what it is.
Well, then, my apologies.

Carter is definitely valuable, but I think he's severely overrated by the Flyers.

Maybe just Carter straight up for Bryz, Doan and the conditional 2nd? I do agree that adding Versteeg is a little redundant...

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If I'm the Flyers, I do this in a second.

Maybe it's just my biased Devils-fans-view on Carter, but he won't amount to much, other than a flashy, big scorer with little motivation but a whole lot of ego.

Flyers get a gritty, scoring winger in Doan and their goalie.

I hate the Flyers, but this would make Philadelphia one hell of a team next year.
Yeah, a big flashy scorer who is 4th in goals scored in the past three seasons with one less than Sidney Crosby.

Doan has one year left on his contract and will need a 35+ contract after that.

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Well, then, my apologies.

Carter is definitely valuable, but I think he's severely overrated by the Flyers.

Maybe just Carter straight up for Bryz, Doan and the conditional 2nd? I do agree that adding Versteeg is a little redundant...
Stop acting like the rights to Bryzgalov are valuable. If anything it will drive up his price because he'll know we have to sign him for us not to lose on the deal.

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Well, then, my apologies.

Carter is definitely valuable, but I think he's severely overrated by the Flyers.

Maybe just Carter straight up for Bryz, Doan and the conditional 2nd? I do agree that adding Versteeg is a little redundant...
How about no? I wouldn't trade Carter straight up for Doan right now. We'd be trading away approximately 300-350 goals over the next 11 seasons for one year of Doan. That's ridiculous. Versteeg for rights to Bryzgalov and the conditional pick. No Carter unless we're talking a major package.

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that's a huge no from the flyers. How about Versteeg or Carle for Bryz and a conditional pick described in the OP.

Like mercury said, trading 11 years of carter for 1 year of Doan is ridiculous.

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Hell no. sorry

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You think Phx, a team without stable ownership and no long term contracts beyond 3 more years, is going to take on a life time contract like Carter's? I'd be ok with the Bryz rights/your 2nd for Versteeg. But Doan isn't leaving this franchise, and we can't accommodate Carter's contract, as good a player as he is.

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You think Phx, a team without stable ownership and no long term contracts beyond 3 more years, is going to take on a life time contract like Carter's? I'd be ok with the Bryz rights/your 2nd for Versteeg. But Doan isn't leaving this franchise, and we can't accommodate Carter's contract, as good a player as he is.

Makes sense. I'd do that deal around Versteeg. I think Bryzgalov would be a fine starter in Philly until Bob is ready to take the reins, and I was never that excited about Versteeg, anyway. Rather get rid of him and re-sign Leino, then see where we're at capwise. Carle might have to go, too, depending on what Leino and Bryzgalov would get on their new contracts.

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In any case, no interest in Versteeg. Would rather let Bryz walk to be honest.

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An old man and a UFA for the 7th top scorer in the league ++?

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If you add Gormley/OEL/Yandle + MacLean/Tikhonov, I think I may be inclined to do that from a Flyers standpoint.

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If you add Gormley/OEL/Yandle + MacLean/Tikhonov, I think I may be inclined to do that from a Flyers standpoint.
The Flyers'll even throw in Shelley

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that would be trade **** in favor of phoenix. jeff carter has.... 115 goals in the past 3 seasons? his trade value is extremely high. i wouldnt trade him for doan and bryz's rights... the rights to a goalie are NEVER valuable enough to acquire a player of carter's caliber. in addition, we are looking for a playoff performer in net... which bryzgalov is not. doan is too old to have any form of trade value.

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that would be trade **** in favor of phoenix. jeff carter has.... 115 goals in the past 3 seasons? his trade value is extremely high. i wouldnt trade him for doan and bryz's rights... the rights to a goalie are NEVER valuable enough to acquire a player of carter's caliber. in addition, we are looking for a playoff performer in net... which bryzgalov is not. doan is too old to have any form of trade value.
Doan is alot better than what his stats says

but anyways Doan will not waive his NMC. FYI he owns a horse ranch and isn't about to relocate them...

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Doan is GREAT. I been wishing the Rangers would have traded for him every single year.

But to lose Carter? Thats a tough one.

Doan is great. But carter? Ehhh.. not sold

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Carter and Carle to Phoenix for Yandle, Pyatt and a 1st

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Carter and Carle to Phoenix for Yandle, Pyatt and a 1st
Yeah, no....
More like hell no.

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Yeah, no....
More like hell no.
why?

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