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05-23-2011, 09:03 PM
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raymond + schnieder + ballard for zack parise RIGHTS

So basically, a young 20+ goal scorer, top goalie prospect + Salary dump for a CHANCE for zack parise?.

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05-23-2011, 09:07 PM
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raymond + schnieder + ballard for zack parise RIGHTS

So basically, a young 20+ goal scorer, top goalie prospect + Salary dump for a CHANCE for zack parise?.
Yeah, it's more than a chance at Parise. Don't try to undersell it like that. If you actually believe that you only have a "CHANCE" at signing him, than you would be foolish to give up that much.

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05-23-2011, 09:11 PM
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Also, I think Edler+Schnieder for Parise and something like a 2nd rounder would be a fair deal.

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05-23-2011, 09:13 PM
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I'm pretty sure thats the reaction for ever single Devils fan.
Spot on.

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Alex Edler + Cory Scnidier + 1st in 2011 for Parise
Some Devils fans will say yes. I personally say no. Not a bad offer though.

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raymond + schnieder + ballard for zack parise RIGHTS

So basically, a young 20+ goal scorer, top goalie prospect + Salary dump for a CHANCE for zack parise?.
It's his RFA rights. Completely different than UFA. God help the first person who tries to bring up Bouwmeester.

Plus, if we're giving you Zach Parise, we're not taking a salary dump. Sorry. Also, we're not taking your expendable pieces for a top 3 or 5 winger in the league. It's going to cost you Edler+ or Kesler. We know how that's going to end. Hint: not well.

We'll keep that CHANCE, bro. And we'll get him signed.

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raymond + schnieder + ballard for zack parise RIGHTS

So basically, a young 20+ goal scorer, top goalie prospect + Salary dump for a CHANCE for zack parise?.

That means nothing to the Devils unless you add a new stipulation to hypothesized proposal--one which assumes that Parise doesn't want to sign in NJ and demands a trade. Considering that it is very likely that the Devils sign Parise, they would demand a package that at least equally compensates the loss of Parise from their team. So a proposal for Parise would have to include an equal package to the utility of Parise's services to the Devils. Raymond+Schnieder+Ballard does not equate to the utility of Parise to the Devils.

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05-23-2011, 09:23 PM
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Ballard for the rights to Weber, i saw someone post. That isn't crazy. If Weber signs, all is well. If he doesn't you have some cap space to get people your coach will play.

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Ballard for the rights to Weber, i saw someone post. That isn't crazy. If Weber signs, all is well. If he doesn't you have some cap space to get people your coach will play.
I know that there are tons of good Canuck fans, but it' offers like this that just make me

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05-23-2011, 09:34 PM
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Ballard for the rights to Weber, i saw someone post. That isn't crazy. If Weber signs, all is well. If he doesn't you have some cap space to get people your coach will play.
You know that the other team actually has to agree to a trade right? Anything less then Kesler wouldn't be worth it from Nashville's perspective.

Can't wait until June and all these Weber proposals will be done for... what's that Suter is still going to be a UFA next year, well que up the Suter going to Detroit proposals..

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Cap hit isn't the issue it's the structuring. If the contract is very top heavy, 10-12mil the first couple of years, Nashville may not be able to match it based on their own personal salary cap.
No. No! No no no. Bad hockey fan. No puck drop for you.

1) Nashville just picked up a whole heck of a lot of playoff revenue. Short term is not an issue.
2) He's their SUPERSTAR CAPTAIN. He sells tickets over there. He'd pay for himself.

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New Jersey's going to take our junk for their best player? Right....

Parise would take either Kesler or Edler (+ a bit). Not worth it. Don't mess with the winning formula.

I would love to make a play for Weber though.

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05-23-2011, 10:22 PM
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Ballard for the rights to Weber, i saw someone post. That isn't crazy. If Weber signs, all is well. If he doesn't you have some cap space to get people your coach will play.


Weber isn't a UFA. He's an RFA. An unsigned Weber is worth 100x more than Ballard.

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If Vancouver somehow has Weber, that means that Nashville has Kesler, and I'm still furious.

Haha...6.5. Gold, Jerry, gold!

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Ballard for the rights to Weber, i saw someone post. That isn't crazy. If Weber signs, all is well. If he doesn't you have some cap space to get people your coach will play.
I counter with:

Kesler for the rights to Joel Ward.

See, I did what you just did, but not even as bad as you did it.

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By the way, I see a lot of complaining from Vancouver fans over on the playoff board about what they see as unnecessary or unfair hatred towards their team and fanbase.

I'd like to present exhibit A.

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05-23-2011, 10:50 PM
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Ballard for the rights to Weber, i saw someone post. That isn't crazy. If Weber signs, all is well. If he doesn't you have some cap space to get people your coach will play.
I like your sarcasm, wish others would see that too.




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05-24-2011, 03:18 AM
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By the way, I see a lot of complaining from Vancouver fans over on the playoff board about what they see as unnecessary or unfair hatred towards their team and fanbase.

I'd like to present exhibit A.
What's "exhibit A"? The OP is a Penguins fan...

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THe OP is a penguins fan.

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Van couldn't afford Parise new contract anyways.
Maybe the Devils can't either....


Parise would make any team better imo. But The Nucks seem to have a very well well built team as is and Kessler and Burrows bring some of that same style of game...

Who's giving over paying for Parise until he proves he's can be 100% ?

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Ballard for the rights to Weber, i saw someone post. That isn't crazy. If Weber signs, all is well. If he doesn't you have some cap space to get people your coach will play.
I think this is the exhibit A he was talking about.

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Maybe the Devils can't either....


Parise would make any team better imo. But The Nucks seem to have a very well well built team as is and Kessler and Burrows bring some of that same style of game...

Who's giving over paying for Parise until he proves he's can be 100% ?
ughhh . The Devils have enough room to sign Parise and then some...

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Vancouver can't afford either.

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What's "exhibit A"? The OP is a Penguins fan...
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THe OP is a penguins fan.
Yes, and I stated this 'plan' came from a Canucks fan.

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What's "exhibit A"? The OP is a Penguins fan...
And yet, in this thread there are several Canucks fans making absurd proposals.

I set the over/under on how many stupid Parise threads since May 1 we'd see before he was re-signed, at 13.5. This is the 7th. We're halfway there.

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What's "exhibit A"? The OP is a Penguins fan...
I was only halfway referring to the original poster's statements. When you see things like, "a signed Keith Ballard for Shea Weber's rights," you can't help but feel your blood start to boil.

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Lol I'm sorry but this proposal is ridiculous...the old "we'll trade you three okay players for one super star thread". Next.

Oh and there is no way Nashville doesn't match a 6.5 million dollar offer sheet for Weber. And there are numerous teams who would top that if they didn't so keep dreaming I guess...

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