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05-23-2011, 09:14 PM
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To Mtl:
Clarkson
White


To NJ:
Pouliot
Spacek
4th 2011


NJ adds skilled depth players, while Mtl adds gritty depth players. Mtl gets the slightly better quality of players, NJ gets the extra pick, a small cap savings now and 2.7M$ off the books for 2012.

both teams get a bit of what they need, depth-wise, neither team gives up a hugely valuable asset.
We're not doing any deal that involves Spacek.

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05-23-2011, 09:29 PM
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Not many devils earned their paycheck last year. Clarkson was one of them. It's amazing what a coach can do. He played a lot better near the end if the year. The year before he played a lot better and earned a nice paycheck. He could return to that form as a third line 25 goal guy.
Whut ?
I would offer a 3rd from MTL , if we have some cap space left after we sign our important player.

I don't want to hijack this thread but is Colin White available ? If yes , he's still decent to be on a second pair ?

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05-23-2011, 09:32 PM
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05-23-2011, 09:38 PM
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Whut ?
I would offer a 3rd from MTL , if we have some cap space left after we sign our important player.

I don't want to hijack this thread but is Colin White available ? If yes , he's still decent to be on a second pair ?
He went from 9 goals to 17 goals. Then the year before this horrible season he was on pace for aprox. 27 goals before he got injured and wasn't the same after he came back.

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05-23-2011, 10:03 PM
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another plug for the habs
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05-23-2011, 10:05 PM
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A player like Clarkson could be of interest to the Habs. However, you really need to wait on that. See how the rest of the payroll shakes out, because Clarkson's contract is a huge premium for what he does, and it's likely/hopeful that the Habs won't have any room to take on any more premium contracts. Chasing a physical winger on the UFA market would be a priority ahead of trading for Clarkson too.

But I guess if for some reason you hit August, didn't have anybody left to sign in that role as a UFA, had oodles of cap-space remaining... well, maybe. Mind you, by that time the Devils will have their payroll sorted out too, and if LL loves Clarkson so much, I guess there would be no further point to them just dumping him off before camp.
^This. I would have liked Clarkson on our roster two years ago. Now, I think we have other options, and he shouldn't be one of them.

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05-23-2011, 10:46 PM
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Whut ?
I don't want to hijack this thread but is Colin White available ? If yes , he's still decent to be on a second pair ?
to be honest, i would like to see the devils try to move white (especially if salvador is okay to play again this coming season). white is too redundant considering the other guys the devils have locked up and is the worst with the puck (whereas salvadors puck moving/passing ability is decent for a player of his type). tough though b/c he has a NTC and i just dont see him being moved. i personally would take a 2nd or 3rd for him though if someone was willing to offer it.

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aren t our chance greater of doing a trade with chicago than NJ. I rather get a brouwer out of chicago than clarkson

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05-24-2011, 09:21 AM
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Clarkson has 0 value at his contract. You're paying us so you can keep Parise.
Nonsense. Clarkson has plenty of value if he can regain his 20 goal form. Injuries and terrible coaching have kept him from that, but I expect him to break out soon. He can hit, fight, score, cycle, and play decent defence. Not many players have the same skillset.

And the Devils can fit Parise's contract under the cap quite comfortably, even without moving anybody. Clarkson will not be a salary dump, especially not the way Lou regards him.

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05-24-2011, 09:31 AM
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Nonsense. Clarkson has plenty of value if he can regain his 20 goal form. Injuries and terrible coaching have kept him from that, but I expect him to break out soon. He can hit, fight, score, cycle, and play decent defence. Not many players have the same skillset.
And yet your fans are willing to trade him for a 3rd round pick?

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05-24-2011, 09:42 AM
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And yet your fans are willing to trade him for a 3rd round pick?
"What have you done for me lately?"

He's currently overpaid for his production last season, which was his first under his new contract. He didn't live up to it, but I feel it has more to do with the entire team being horrible because of MacLean, than Clarkson regressing. I'm willing to give him another chance, and I fully expect him to score ~15-20 goals this season, while providing much needed grit to the Devils' bottom 6.

Most importantly, he has a very good relationship with Lou, and I can't see Lou letting him go so cheaply. He certainly isn't a salary dump like some Habs posters are claiming.

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Not sure if Clarkson is a "must" for the Habs with the emergence of Ryan White now who will make a killer 4th line pest in the future, not to mention he was once the WHL scoring leader...

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05-24-2011, 12:59 PM
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Not sure if Clarkson is a "must" for the Habs with the emergence of Ryan White now who will make a killer 4th line pest in the future, not to mention he was once the WHL scoring leader...
Wouldn't hurt to give White some backup.

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05-24-2011, 01:20 PM
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I'd give you a 3rd for Clarkson.

He's overpaid, but i like what he brings to the table.

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05-24-2011, 01:21 PM
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Not sure if Clarkson is a "must" for the Habs with the emergence of Ryan White now who will make a killer 4th line pest in the future, not to mention he was once the WHL scoring leader...
We need more than just White. Clarkson could play on the 3rd line and maybe take some shifts with Cammalleri and Plekanec.

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05-24-2011, 02:31 PM
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And yet your fans are willing to trade him for a 3rd round pick?
Clarkson gets his value from being able to do literally everything a hockey player needs to do. Unfortunately, he's only above average in a few categories. He's a quality 3rd liner, but I don't care for his contract given the Devils cap situation. In reality, we're anxious to trade the contract. Not player.

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05-24-2011, 02:55 PM
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We need more than just White. Clarkson could play on the 3rd line and maybe take some shifts with Cammalleri and Plekanec.
You've gotta be ****ing kidding me. He isn't worth the mid 3rd rounder (because of the contract) and he definitely wouldn't work on a 2nd line let alone a top (talent) line.

Big no from me.

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05-24-2011, 03:12 PM
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Conditional 3rd round pick that becomes a 2nd if Clarkson scores 20 goals next year.

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Conditional 3rd round pick that becomes a 2nd if Clarkson scores 20 goals next year.
If I were Gauthier I would rather keep my 3rd rounder than pay him 2.7 million per for the next 2 seasons. As a team that spends up to the cap, Habs don't have the luxury to blatantly overpay any more underachieving bottom-six forwards.

The idea of a conditional pick is not bad though. But I'd start with a 5th rounder at best, which could become a 4th if he notches 15 goals, 3rd if 20, etc.

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I think some people are undervaluing Clarkie. He could be a 20+ goal scorer.

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I think some people are undervaluing Clarkie. He could be a 20+ goal scorer.
Weber could become Mark Streit.

At 2.7 million per, and with his recent underachieving, he's just not worth as much as you would like him to.

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If I was Montreal I would keep my draft pick and sign a physical UFA. Plus it would be at half the cap hit Clarkson is. Even if Clarkson is a little better player than the enforcer/4th liner UFA they sign, it won't be more than 1 win over a full season. Plus the Habs keep their draft pick and free up 1.7 million off their salary cap. They are better off not to trade for Clarkson

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