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05-25-2011, 05:41 PM
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Yawn, I hated the Jets as much as I did the Thrashers. I wish Vegas had a team, because I actually enjoy going to that city, unlike Winnipeg.

NHL isn't going forwards with this, its a lateral move.
It is truly is unfortunate that some people are allowed to post every ignorant thought that pops into their head. Lateral move, really?

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05-25-2011, 05:45 PM
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Hmm, I wonder if Andrew Ladd or Anthony Stewart like Manitoba very much.

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The rumor a while back was that Detroit wanted to play in the East again, I believe this goes back 1-2 years ago. Not sure if the NHL would want one of it's flagship teams changing conferences like that though.
Sometime during these playoffs, the guys on CBC said that if Detroit were to move to the East, it wouldn't be next year (didn't hear the reason, if they actually stated one). The earliest the can/would move to the East would be in 2 years.

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ok but the mts center is max 16000 no?

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ok but the mts center is max 16000 no?
even if it is 10,000 -- they'd still make more than ATL

Winnipeg will easily break even at 15-16,000 seats

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I've heard that MTS center can be renovated to accommodate more people. It's probably what they will do.

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even if it is 10,000 -- they'd still make more than ATL

Winnipeg will easily break even at 15-16,000 seats
ok but is there any plan to renovate ?

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ok but is there any plan to renovate ?
no clue, but the arena is NHL ready..

if they are making it bigger they are limited in space and time; so it can't be much more ...I think it's 15-16 as is, and I doubt 17 is possible

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What the heck are you talking about?
Where did I lose you? Nothing about Winnipeg getting a team back is exciting, I could care less.

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It is truly is unfortunate that some people are allowed to post every ignorant thought that pops into their head. Lateral move, really?
Aww, you don't like what I wrote, and now I'm 'ignorant' , how cute. Losing a team in the US, and putting it in Winnipeg, does nothing to grow the game to the bigger US markets, like it or not. The failure of one team, moving to another market, is a lateral move.

Winnipeg should have gotten an expansion team, not a relocation.

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Aww, you don't like what I wrote, and now I'm 'ignorant' , how cute. Losing a team in the US, and putting it in Winnipeg, does nothing to grow the game to the bigger US markets, like it or not. The failure of one team, moving to another market, is a lateral move.

Winnipeg should have gotten an expansion team, not a relocation.
The NHL ****ed itself up by not expanding into hockey markets in the states. You cannot just throw a team in Atlanta and Phoenix, hoping it will swim. Grow it from areas where it is succesful, hit neighbouring cities with interests where the game is accesible and spreads from word of mouth and eventually move down to the dessert.

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05-25-2011, 06:35 PM
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Yawn, I hated the Jets as much as I did the Thrashers. I wish Vegas had a team, because I actually enjoy going to that city, unlike Winnipeg.

NHL isn't going forwards with this, its a lateral move.
Vegas is a terrible non-special event sports market, for hockey it would be a disaster.

You aren't going to sell out games regularly through tourists.

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The NHL ****ed itself up by not expanding into hockey markets in the states. You cannot just throw a team in Atlanta and Phoenix, hoping it will swim. Grow it from areas where it is succesful, hit neighbouring cities with interests where the game is accesible and spreads from word of mouth and eventually move down to the dessert.
That logic sounds good to me.

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Renaud Lavoie talked about the done deal on RDS tonight.

Here's the video: http://www.twitvid.com/KUB9F

(I hope someone can translate for those who don't understand French)

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Aww, you don't like what I wrote, and now I'm 'ignorant' , how cute. Losing a team in the US, and putting it in Winnipeg, does nothing to grow the game to the bigger US markets, like it or not. The failure of one team, moving to another market, is a lateral move.

Winnipeg should have gotten an expansion team, not a relocation.
Why yes, it is still ignorant and there is nothing cute about it. Keeping the team in Atlanta does not grow the game, moving it to Vegas would be just stupid, no fan base and that is what a lateral move would be. This would grow the game in the U.S.? Moving to Winnipeg is a plus for the league, strong fan base and an increase in revenue that helps cover the huge losses from the poorly placed U.S. based teams. That is smart business.

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If it does in fact happen winnipeg will be sold out and loud.We will never be mistaken for a warm large market but who cares.Any player wanting that too bad.If this does happen what would happen to the alignment of the league.I heard nashville taking atlantas spot and winnipeg nashvilles?Seems simple enough.

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no clue, but the arena is NHL ready..

if they are making it bigger they are limited in space and time; so it can't be much more ...I think it's 15-16 as is, and I doubt 17 is possible
The latest I read was that there's no room to expand the facility. However, True North is convinced that the capacity of the building fits the market just fine.

True North is not coming into this market with the expectation of being a money maker every year, nor are they planning to be a top spender, but I'm happy for the folks in Winnipeg that they finally have something to do in that city, and I'm also happy that the nhl has added another passionate hockey market, because it really adds to the viewing experience.

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Les vidangeurs de Winnipeg?
It's a bird.

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If it does in fact happen winnipeg will be sold out and loud.We will never be mistaken for a warm large market but who cares.Any player wanting that too bad.If this does happen what would happen to the alignment of the league.I heard nashville taking atlantas spot and winnipeg nashvilles?Seems simple enough.
It'll be like any other market small canadian market, tough to attract UFA's but locals of Western Canada won't shy away from the market I'm sure and players drafted and developped through the system will come to love the area and stick around.

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Yawn, I hated the Jets as much as I did the Thrashers. I wish Vegas had a team, because I actually enjoy going to that city, unlike Winnipeg.

NHL isn't going forwards with this, its a lateral move.
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Lame. Sad day for hockey.
Oh give me a break. Jesus. Winnipeg is full of actual hockey fans and they deserve a team.

Las Vegas... ya that's a hockey mad city if there ever was one...

Ya Winnipeg isn't very exciting, but this is a step to making the city a better place. You have to start somehwhere.

If this goes through then congrats to you Manitobans. You're good people and hockey fans at their best!

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It's great to see the city of Winnipeg get another shot at a hockey team. Woud be nice to have a 7th team in Canada as well.

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I thought I read somewhere that Atlanta was never even featured on NBC at all. I don't know how many of their games were on Versus, but never showing a team doesn't exactly grow the game. I bet a lot of owners are tired of sharing revenue with teams that consistently lose $30 million+ a year.

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It's great to see the city of Winnipeg get another shot at a hockey team. Woud be nice to have a 7th team in Canada as well.
Now lets get teams back in Quebec and Hartford

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I live in Winnipeg these days and as far as I know there is a very strong desire for a team here. I have no doubts in my mind that the team will pull revenue here. The MTS center is well situated and people are very excited about getting a team back.

It'll flourish here. It would be good for Winnipeg.

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If true, Winnipeg inherits from a good young team with potential and lots of cap room.

Pavelec, Bogosian, Enstrom, Big Buff, Kane, Burmistrov, Cormier, Little, Wheeler are young nice pieces to build upon.

Prospect cupboard seems a little thin though...

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