GMGM is / was an idiot for giving Green a $5m contract as an RFA. I think we have a good team mentality here in Montreal and PK wouldn't ask for $5m in his 2nd contract, nor do I think CP would ask for $5m in his last RFA contract.
But if someone offers PK a $50m contract for the next 10 years, how can he ever turn it down? The reality is, he never should, $50m to his family is everything, its security, whereas getting hurt and concussed and not having a career in 3 years is possible in the new NHL.
seriously, someone can offer PK a big RFA contract and Montreal would have no choice to match it.
thats why offer sheets are bad, because they basically remove the RFA value from developing your own players, every smart GM would offer PK a $9m/yr contract over the next 2 years to steal him. and still own his RFA rights.
GMGM is / was an idiot for giving Green a $5m contract as an RFA. I think we have a good team mentality here in Montreal and PK wouldn't ask for $5m in his 2nd contract, nor do I think CP would ask for $5m in his last RFA contract.
But if someone offers PK a $50m contract for the next 10 years, how can he ever turn it down? The reality is, he never should, $50m to his family is everything, its security, whereas getting hurt and concussed and not having a career in 3 years is possible in the new NHL.
seriously, someone can offer PK a big RFA contract and Montreal would have no choice to match it.
thats why offer sheets are bad, because they basically remove the RFA value from developing your own players, every smart GM would offer PK a $9m/yr contract over the next 2 years to steal him. and still own his RFA rights.
not many offer sheets being thrown around lately.it also makes the g m look like a clown.
GMGM is / was an idiot for giving Green a $5m contract as an RFA. I think we have a good team mentality here in Montreal and PK wouldn't ask for $5m in his 2nd contract, nor do I think CP would ask for $5m in his last RFA contract.
But if someone offers PK a $50m contract for the next 10 years, how can he ever turn it down? The reality is, he never should, $50m to his family is everything, its security, whereas getting hurt and concussed and not having a career in 3 years is possible in the new NHL.
seriously, someone can offer PK a big RFA contract and Montreal would have no choice to match it.
thats why offer sheets are bad, because they basically remove the RFA value from developing your own players, every smart GM would offer PK a $9m/yr contract over the next 2 years to steal him. and still own his RFA rights.
And on top of that, the team that decides to offer PK that much THEN has to fill in the rest of their lineup effectively with their remaining cap space, or those aren't just 4 1st round picks, they could be multiple top 10 or even top 5 picks. Safe to say that even PK could be "replaced" with a single smart top 5 pick, and that's one reason GMs don't just chuck around top dollar offer sheets to any promising young RFA. The main reason it is unlikely to happen, though, is that there is an admitted (by many GMs) mutual respect and understanding among GMs that RFAs that cement themselves in a team's "core" early in their careers are essentially off limits (or suffer retribution at the first available opportunity). Due to this element of "professionalism", the vast majority of offer sheets you'll see tendered serve the exact purpose they're supposed to, which is to give a new opportunity to a young player with too much depth ahead of him on his current team, without forcing him to ride out the remainder of his RFA status first.
Last edited by Ohashi_Jouzu: 05-29-2011 at 02:50 AM.
GMGM is / was an idiot for giving Green a $5m contract as an RFA. I think we have a good team mentality here in Montreal and PK wouldn't ask for $5m in his 2nd contract, nor do I think CP would ask for $5m in his last RFA contract.
But if someone offers PK a $50m contract for the next 10 years, how can he ever turn it down? The reality is, he never should, $50m to his family is everything, its security, whereas getting hurt and concussed and not having a career in 3 years is possible in the new NHL.
seriously, someone can offer PK a big RFA contract and Montreal would have no choice to match it.
thats why offer sheets are bad, because they basically remove the RFA value from developing your own players, every smart GM would offer PK a $9m/yr contract over the next 2 years to steal him. and still own his RFA rights.
I think most of the GMs understood it for a while, if you try to steal, get ready to be eventually stolen too.. its only a stupid way to inflate salaries.. Bobby Clarke tryied to steal a player I dont remember who some years ago, he has been fired the same year.. Lowe did it with Penner, lol we know the rest of the story, thats a move he has been ridiculized for..
GMGM is / was an idiot for giving Green a $5m contract as an RFA. I think we have a good team mentality here in Montreal and PK wouldn't ask for $5m in his 2nd contract, nor do I think CP would ask for $5m in his last RFA contract.
But if someone offers PK a $50m contract for the next 10 years, how can he ever turn it down? The reality is, he never should, $50m to his family is everything, its security, whereas getting hurt and concussed and not having a career in 3 years is possible in the new NHL.
seriously, someone can offer PK a big RFA contract and Montreal would have no choice to match it.
thats why offer sheets are bad, because they basically remove the RFA value from developing your own players, every smart GM would offer PK a $9m/yr contract over the next 2 years to steal him. and still own his RFA rights.
?????? I fel like I missed a bunch of things... Can you translate this please? Who the hell is GMGM...what Green are you talking about, and who is CP?
then the next poster comments on all of the offer sheets being thrown around.....who has signed an offer sheet lately?
GMGM is / was an idiot for giving Green a $5m contract as an RFA. I think we have a good team mentality here in Montreal and PK wouldn't ask for $5m in his 2nd contract, nor do I think CP would ask for $5m in his last RFA contract.
But if someone offers PK a $50m contract for the next 10 years, how can he ever turn it down? The reality is, he never should, $50m to his family is everything, its security, whereas getting hurt and concussed and not having a career in 3 years is possible in the new NHL.
seriously, someone can offer PK a big RFA contract and Montreal would have no choice to match it.
thats why offer sheets are bad, because they basically remove the RFA value from developing your own players, every smart GM would offer PK a $9m/yr contract over the next 2 years to steal him. and still own his RFA rights.
I suppose that many fans whose teams have superstars would take the same position as you do. It it's not in the players' best interests and it could lead to strikes and lockouts (it already has). To say that offer sheets are bad is to to say that teams should have exclusive rights to players from the time they're drafted to the time they're eligible to become UFAs. It would be consistent with your line of thought to eliminate arbitration and restricted free agency as well. While you're at it, why not eliminate unrestricted free agency and return to the days when players could never negotiate with another team and had to accept whatever was offered them? That was the situation that prevailed before expansion in 1967. It was the situation that ultimately led to the creation of the WHA, the only outlet through which players could get immediate big increases in their salaries.
Last edited by Teufelsdreck: 05-29-2011 at 08:07 AM.
GMGM is / was an idiot for giving Green a $5m contract as an RFA. I think we have a good team mentality here in Montreal and PK wouldn't ask for $5m in his 2nd contract, nor do I think CP would ask for $5m in his last RFA contract.
But if someone offers PK a $50m contract for the next 10 years, how can he ever turn it down? The reality is, he never should, $50m to his family is everything, its security, whereas getting hurt and concussed and not having a career in 3 years is possible in the new NHL.
seriously, someone can offer PK a big RFA contract and Montreal would have no choice to match it.
thats why offer sheets are bad, because they basically remove the RFA value from developing your own players, every smart GM would offer PK a $9m/yr contract over the next 2 years to steal him. and still own his RFA rights.
No GM in their right mind would offer sheet PK for $9M becausw they would be forced to give us 4 first round draft picks, somethign we would love to take. There is a trade-off depending on how much the team offered to pay the play they offer-sheeted. The more they offer, the more they would have to give up were the playerto sign with them.
That is how order is kept in the NHL, no one really offer sheets all that often unless they feel it is worth to give something up for the certain player. That is also why usually offer sheets are relatively low, because teams don't want to give up too much.
Check the "Business of Hockey" section of the forum to understand how RFA works.
I think most of the GMs understood it for a while, if you try to steal, get ready to be eventually stolen too.. its only a stupid way to inflate salaries.. Bobby Clarke tryied to steal a player I dont remember who some years ago, he has been fired the same year.. Lowe did it with Penner, lol we know the rest of the story, thats a move he has been ridiculized for..
That player Bobby Clarke tried to steal was Ryan Kesler. For what was then a ludicrous $1.9 million. Imagine if he snagged him how different both teams would look.
Vancouver also had a little fight with the Blues one year when they signed Backes to an offersheet ($2.5 million), and in response the Blues gave one to Steve Bernier. I bet the Canucks wish they could make that trade.
Offersheets are part of the game, and if there's some crazy GM willing to give up multiple top picks in order to sign one of our RFA to a big contract, then go for it.
I would have no problem trading away PK for four first round picks, especially if it's on a somewhat bad team.
Offersheets are part of the game, and if there's some crazy GM willing to give up multiple top picks in order to sign one of our RFA to a big contract, then go for it.
I would have no problem trading away PK for four first round picks, especially if it's on a somewhat bad team.
You, like me, are filthy. You considered trading the PK. I am filthy, I must wash. Wash away the dirt. Be clean, cleaner. I must wash my hands. And then again. And again. The filth won't go, I must wash again... Hands are bleeding, no matter. Must wash again.
