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05-29-2011, 06:34 PM
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Edmonton should draft RNH and trade the farm for Couturier.

Does 19 + 31 + Gagner + Hemsky get us Couturier?

RNH - Couturier 1-2 down the middle would set this franchise up for a decade.
I am extremely opposed to this proposal

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05-29-2011, 06:42 PM
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I am extremely opposed to this proposal
I think its type of deal that nobody would even remember what we gave up in couple years.

With RNH and Couturier you have every possible attribute covered.

Bigger version of Pat Kane (if he was a center) and Jordan Staal taking care of the defensive responsibilities.

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05-29-2011, 06:43 PM
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I think that would get us more than Couturier. At least it better with that package.
I would love to get him for less, but I would do whatever it takes to secure that duo.

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I really think people need to accept the reality that hemsky will be here next season, at least for the start. No team is trading anything of value for a currently injured, often injured player. If Hemsky shows he can stay healthy and be an impact player there will be some interest next season, but 99% sure he's an oiler to start next year.

However, this is probably in our best interest as he's entering the prime of his career and will really help with the veteran presence.

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I think its type of deal that nobody would even remember what we gave up in couple years.

With RNH and Couturier you have every possible attribute covered.

Bigger version of Pat Kane (if he was a center) and Jordan Staal taking care of the defensive responsibilities.
It could also be the 2nd worst trade in Oil history

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Watching Mem Cup, I could easily see Huberdeau going second. Yea, he plays on a stacked team. So did Hall. But players that "stick out" on a stacked team is a sign of good things IMO.

Also, anyone notice Huberdeau looks bigger that his stats say? He looks like he's 6'4 on ice haha

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05-29-2011, 07:17 PM
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Watching Mem Cup, I could easily see Huberdeau going second. Yea, he plays on a stacked team. So did Hall. But players that "stick out" on a stacked team is a sign of good things IMO.

Also, anyone notice Huberdeau looks bigger that his stats say? He looks like he's 6'4 on ice haha
He does look good

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05-29-2011, 07:19 PM
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I really like Beauleiu (sp) for SJ. Great Skater and can get the puck out of the zone.

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05-29-2011, 07:51 PM
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Watching Mem Cup, I could easily see Huberdeau going second. Yea, he plays on a stacked team. So did Hall. But players that "stick out" on a stacked team is a sign of good things IMO.

Also, anyone notice Huberdeau looks bigger that his stats say? He looks like he's 6'4 on ice haha
He goes top 5 for sure, I'm 100% positive on that, and I think it's 50/50 that Colorado picks him second overall. Both Landeskog and Huberdeau have a bunch of intangibles but Huberdeau has more raw skill. Colorado has a tough choice.

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Edmonton should draft RNH and trade the farm for Couturier.

Does 19 + 31 + Gagner + Hemsky get us Couturier?

RNH - Couturier 1-2 down the middle would set this franchise up for a decade.
Have said this a few times, but SC is also the guy I want at number 1. Don't know about the package it would take to get it done though.

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05-29-2011, 08:28 PM
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Edmonton should draft RNH and trade the farm for Couturier.

Does 19 + 31 + Gagner + Hemsky get us Couturier?

RNH - Couturier 1-2 down the middle would set this franchise up for a decade.
Colorado/Florida/New Jersey/Islanders would be demented to make this deal. Quantity for quality.

It's like asking, would the Oilers accept Boston and Philly's 1st rounders, Bozak and Lupul for the 1st overall from Toronto

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05-29-2011, 08:34 PM
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Colorado/Florida/New Jersey/Islanders would be demented to make this deal. Quantity for quality.

It's like asking, would the Oilers accept Boston and Philly's 1st rounders, Bozak and Lupul for the 1st overall from Toronto
So you think Gagner=Bozak Hemsky= Lupul not even close.

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Stuart Percy would look like an awesome pickup if we could get him at 61.

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So you think Gagner=Bozak Hemsky= Lupul not even close.
No kidding. How he even came to that conclusion is baffling.

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So you think Gagner=Bozak Hemsky= Lupul not even close.
I know. What can you say about a post like that.

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05-29-2011, 09:00 PM
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IF we could somehow move up to 4th I would take Huberdeau over Courtourier

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05-29-2011, 09:05 PM
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Stuart Percy would look like an awesome pickup if we could get him at 61.
TBH, after watching this game tonight I'd take him at 31. What a great player. So patient and smart.

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05-29-2011, 09:16 PM
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Edmonton should draft RNH and trade the farm for Couturier.

Does 19 + 31 + Gagner + Hemsky get us Couturier?

RNH - Couturier 1-2 down the middle would set this franchise up for a decade.
I'd rather package 19th, Hemsky, and Gagner for Adam Larsson if/ or when he falls and then pick up one of Grigorenko or Galchenyuk as our #2C and take the 31st and trade up for Klefbom

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MPS-Grigorenko/Galchenyuk-Omark..... I like this line cause MPS and Omark have chemistry and MPS backchecks too.

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IF we could somehow move up to 4th I would take Huberdeau over Courtourier
So would I. Courtourier is bigger and a 'natural' center but Huberdeau has at least a step on Courtourier and has superior hockey instincts. Huberdeau is going to be a hell of a hockey player. With that being said, there's no way I select him over Nugent-Hopkins. For me there's a clear cut number one pick, then 4 players after that whom complete the upper echelon in no particular order.


Nugent-Hopkins

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I didn't watch the mem cup but Huberdeau winning the MVP has to be taken into account. It is always a big accomplishment for an under-ager to win that award.

Looking at his numbers, he had a killer playoffs as well. Much better than both RNH and Couturier.

Having 2 Memorial cup mvps would go a long way in creating a winning culture here. If Huberdeau is bigger than RNH, I would not be upset with taking him one bit.

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The only trade up I'd do is trading up to 12-14 to ensure one of Scheifele/McNeill/Miller/Brodin/Klefbom in the draft.

People who watched the playoffs, how was Huberdeau's performance compared to Hall's? Better? Worse? Same?

And any real weaknesses in his game that stood out? (maybe defensive zone cycling, or too much offense created on the rush or defensive coverage or maybe looked to pass too much)

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The only trade up I'd do is trading up to 12-14 to ensure one of Scheifele/McNeill/Miller/Brodin/Klefbom in the draft.

People who watched the playoffs, how was Huberdeau's performance compared to Hall's? Better? Worse? Same?

And any real weaknesses in his game that stood out? (maybe defensive zone cycling, or too much offense created on the rush or defensive coverage or maybe looked to pass too much)
A little bit worse, only because Hall was very dominant. Huberdeau is a great player, but the team does look to him for a lot of there offense which increases his production and makes it more so that he carried a "stacked" team.

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The Huberdeau hype is getting out of control. There's people who would pick him over Larsson? Come on now.

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Huberdeau was not nearly as good as Hall was last season but he was alright. Definately did not deserve the MVP, De Saairs easily should have won. I think Huberdeau will be a great player in the NHL and should go to Colorado 2nd overall.

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The only trade up I'd do is trading up to 12-14 to ensure one of Scheifele/McNeill/Miller/Brodin/Klefbom in the draft.

People who watched the playoffs, how was Huberdeau's performance compared to Hall's? Better? Worse? Same?

And any real weaknesses in his game that stood out? (maybe defensive zone cycling, or too much offense created on the rush or defensive coverage or maybe looked to pass too much)
Huberdeau was fantastic but he never put on the jaw dropping show Hall put on. Huberdeau doesn't have that speed and he doesn't drive to the net like that.

Huberdeau's a great short passer, good with the give and go. Great instincts, knows when to jump into the lanes to score and when to set up players in the slot. I see hes caught out of position and sometimes picks up the wrong man on his assignments and doesn't win all the battles you would like to see him win. I don't think any of his skills are truly elite but everything that has to do with offense he is very good at.

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