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05-24-2011, 07:18 PM
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Summer Cap

Salaries and bonuses are pro-rated for entry level contracts based on days on NHL roster.

Gaborik $7.5M
Drury $7.05M
Wolski $3.8M
Avery $1.9375M
Stepan $875k
Prust $800k
Christensen $925k
Zuccarello(100 days) $940,860

Staal $3.975M
Girardi $3.325M
MDZ(118) $689,919
McD (98) $684,946
Redden $6.5M

Lundqvist $6.875M
Biron $875K

Signed two way contracts
Grachev(16) $70,251
Newbury(34) $93,683
Talbot(1) $4,839

Group II free agents with two way deals. NHL days from the previous season count.

Weise spent 25 days on the NHL roster. His QO is $605,000 NHL in a two way deal. The Rangers usually offer more AHL money for the player accepting the NHL minimum which is $525,000 for 11-12.

The Rangers have Weise, Dupont(6) and Johnson(40) as group IIs with possible cap holds. Are the Rangers going to qualify Dupont and Johnson? Both of them will be group 6 UFA's next summer. Johnson carries a $113K summer cap number. Not really sure why the Rangers would re-sign Johnson.

For some reason,the Rangers are going to qualify Mitchell who has a 1 way contract. He is eligible for a 2 way QO but he spent 126 days on the Leafs last season. Not much difference between a 1 way deal for $525k or a 2 way deal with $761,250 NHL. $515,685 cap number.

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Mitchell is a restricted free agent, but Schoenfeld said he would be qualified and given a chance to make the Rangers in training camp.

“I was really happy with him,” Schoenfeld said. “Here’s a guy that had a knee injury and missed seven weeks and then broke his foot (in Hartford), so one thing that was hurt was his conditioning. And yet he’s a big body (6-foot-1, 195 pounds) with skill, and he’s competitive and intelligent. So this is a very important summer for him in terms of his commitment to conditioning. He’ll get a real good look as far as becoming a Ranger.”
http://www.ctwhale.com/default.asp?c...=59&objId=1363

Kolarik(6)is a group 6. He gets a two way SPC,those 6 days count.

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Kolarik looks to have a role with the Whale next season, and former Michigan teammate Carl Hagelin seems a lock to spend time in Connecticut in the upcoming campaign.
http://www.ctwhale.com/default.asp?c...=59&objId=1361

Weise and Kolarik are re-signed for $525,000 NHL/$70,000 AHL.

Weise $70,564
Kolarik $16,935

Mitchell $525,000 one way

Grachev,Newbury,Talbot,Weise,Kolarik and Mitchell account for $781,272.

Total-$47,534,497

$63,500,000 upper limit. Bill Daly's number. $69,850,000 summer cap upper limit

Rangers have $22,315,503 in space

The Rangers will take a cap penalty for next season. Performance bonuses.

The 10% bump covers $6.35M of Redden's $6.5M.

The Rangers could free up money buying out Wolski($466,667 cap hit),Avery($604,167 cap hit)or Drury($3,716,667 cap hit).

If someone wants to make a chart and have one of the mods put it on the first page,go ahead.

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05-24-2011, 07:30 PM
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A chart would be great. If someone makes one, I'll drop it into the first post.

Charts are totally my thing on HF, but the cap is not. I'll leave it to someone else.

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RB, do you know when the NHLPA votes on the 5% escalator?

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RB, do you know when the NHLPA votes on the 5% escalator?
Roughly, the middle of June.

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I'm just curious to know why the NHLPA wouldn't vote for the escalator..

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Using only facts. Until we have 100% confirmation that Mitchell, Kolarik and Weise are under contract, I'd rather leave them off. Same thing with the totals all the way at the bottom. RB, if you're going to maintain this... when you edit in the qualifiers, you can just put "Q/O" in the type column. If the Rangers qualify a player they don't sign, that qualifier drops off the summer cap on July 15. Edit: I don't mind maintaining it, but we'd have to start a new thread. Otherwise I'd have to try to find this post every time I wanted to add something.

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NameCap HitTypeDays
Marian Gaborik7,500,000One-wayN/A
Chris Drury7,050,000One-wayN/A
Wojtek Wolski3,800,000One-wayN/A
Sean Avery1,937,500One-wayN/A
Brandon Prust800,000One-wayN/A
Erik Christensen925,000One-wayN/A
Derek Stepan875,000Two-wayFull
Mats Zuccarello940,860Two-way100
Evgeny Grachev70,251Two-way16
Kris Newbury93,683Two-way34
Cam Talbot4,839Two-way1
Total23,997,133
 
Defensemen
NameCap HitTypeDays
Wade Redden6,500,000One-wayN/A
Marc Staal3,975,000One-wayN/A
Dan Girardi3,325,000One-wayN/A
Michael DelZotto689,919Two-way98
Ryan McDonagh684,946Two-way118
Total15,174,865
 
Goaltenders
NameCap HitTypeDays
Henrik Lundqvist6,875,000One-wayN/A
Martin Biron875,000One-wayN/A
Total7,750,000
 

Totals
Cap HitCap Ceiling10% CushionCap Space
$46,921,998$??,???,???$??,???,???$??,???,???


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Good. Someone made a chart.


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can Mitchell not be offered a two way? If he gets a one way he would not be a bad spare F. 525K is cheap and we did deal a 7th for him,lol

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can Mitchell not be offered a two way? If he gets a one way he would not be a bad spare F. 525K is cheap and we did deal a 7th for him,lol
Mitchell is eligible for a 2 way QO. How much AHL money? $105,000 AHL is the most Mitchell can get without needing to clear re-entry waivers. How does Mitchell view himself? Is he an AHLer or NHLer? Would he sign a two way deal of $525,000 NHL and $105,000 AHL? The Rangers are within their rights to offer Mitchell that deal but it also makes him attractive to other teams. How many teams want to spend $525,000 for a player in the AHL if its a one way deal?

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The re-entry regulation is why nearly all upper-echelon AHL free-agent signees have an AHL salary of $105,000. Thatís the threshold for re-entry waivers. Make $105,000 or less in the AHL and only normal waiver rules apply. The purpose of the rule is to prevent rich NHL teams from stashing lots of on-the-fringe or salary-cap victims on the minor-league roster.
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Redden spoke to Bruce Berlet last week

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Then thereís Redden, a major help to the Whale as a leader and mentor for a young defensive corps, especially Ryan McDonagh, who spent the second half of the season with the Rangers, Tomas Kundratek and Jyri Niemi before being paired with Nightingale. Redden, 34, was sent to Hartford to eliminate his $6.5 million salary cap hit on the Rangers. He hopes to get another shot at the NHL after seemingly discovering the fountain of youth down the stretch, but itís only one of several options. He could remain with the organization and likely return to Hartford, take a buyout from the Rangers for the $16.5 million left on his contract or forfeit the remainder of his deal and look for work elsewhere. Redden, who moved to British Columbia this week for the summer, said Wednesday that he preferred to stay in North America rather than go to Europe.

Redden is back on the salary cap from July 1 until heís waived again, and the cap is recalculated at the start of the season. The Rangers are highly unlikely to buy him out on June 15 and take a $1,833,333 cap hit next season and in 2014-15 and 2015-16 and a $3,333,333 hit in 2012-13 and 2013-14. So if Redden wants to go elsewhere, he could not report to camp, then his contract would be void and heíd be a free agent.
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Kind of a silly question, but can a conditional pick have a condition that is contingent of a certain player winning a certain award? It was discussed on the main forum, and I can't find anything regarding the rules of conditional picks.

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Really don't see Redden walking away from his contact this summer. I think he'll collect his $6.5 million paycheck for one more season then retire.

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Kind of a silly question, but can a conditional pick have a condition that is contingent of a certain player winning a certain award? It was discussed on the main forum, and I can't find anything regarding the rules of conditional picks.
I'm going with yes. I know it's allowed as a bonus in ELC's and 35+ contracts, but I just have a thought in the back of my head of a trade a couple years ago where a pick was based off the player performance and/or how far the team got in the playoffs. I think it was just the Conn Smyth trophy, though. Too many variables for the other trophies.

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Kind of a silly question, but can a conditional pick have a condition that is contingent of a certain player winning a certain award? It was discussed on the main forum, and I can't find anything regarding the rules of conditional picks.
don't see why it would be a problem if both teams agreed to it...it would be kind of dumb for the team getting the conditional pick cause the more specific the condition the less likely it is to be met. but i don't think the league would stop it.

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Quick question. Say if the Thrashers do move to Winnipeg do you see them as major players in the free agency market and do you think the will be a team that spends to the cap or to the cap floor?

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Quick question. Say if the Thrashers do move to Winnipeg do you see them as major players in the free agency market and do you think the will be a team that spends to the cap or to the cap floor?
No. They won't have a major impact in free agency, at least initially. Winnipeg isn't a great market, Atlanta is, but the fans aren't there, and that's really the only attractive part about Winnipeg. They'll have the same problems Edmonton does.

The only thing Winnipeg has going for them is the fans, nothing else is great about the city to be honest, just a bunch of nostalgic fans. It's basically the Green Bay of the NHL, great fans and somewhat 'storied' history, for lack of a better term. Green Bay has nothing, but the players go because of the history and winning tradition. Winnipeg has never even been a winner, nobody will sign with them except possibly players from Winnipeg.

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Quick question. Say if the Thrashers do move to Winnipeg do you see them as major players in the free agency market and do you think the will be a team that spends to the cap or to the cap floor?
I've been hearing a lot that Ladd will not be moving with the team.

If the captain isn't going with the team, I'd imagine we'll at least a couple surprises.

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I've been hearing a lot that Ladd will not be moving with the team.

If the captain isn't going with the team, I'd imagine we'll at least a couple surprises.
where did you hear that?? i'd gladly take him if thats the case

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where did you hear that?? i'd gladly take him if thats the case
I started looking around to see where I read it. But I'm seeing more that he will probably move with the team more than anything now.

Probably just people on HF rumor mongering and I took it for truth.

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Winnipeg is a better hockey market than Atlanta. Winnipeg will sell more tickets in their smaller building than Atlanta did. The Canadian dollar is much stronger than it was in 1996. The fans will buy the tickets just based on having their team back but then it will be up to ownership and management to put a winning product on the ice. Players won't want to play in Winnipeg because of the weather. Edmonton has the same problem.

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If this happens it will be the second time that Atlanta has lost an NHL franchise. Who would think that they'd get a third chance? It's a major city where the game hasn't taken.

And if I'm remembering right--Winnipeg didn't lose the Jets to Phoenix because of lack of fan support. They lost it because of arena issues. Now that they have a new arena--with luxury boxes etal. and with the strengthened Canadian dollar and with a strong fan base they should have no problems for the forseeable future being able to support an NHL team.

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If this happens it will be the second time that Atlanta has lost an NHL franchise. Who would think that they'd get a third chance? It's a major city where the game hasn't taken.

And if I'm remembering right--Winnipeg didn't lose the Jets to Phoenix because of lack of fan support. They lost it because of arena issues. Now that they have a new arena--with luxury boxes etal. and with the strengthened Canadian dollar and with a strong fan base they should have no problems for the forseeable future being able to support an NHL team.
Yeah, Winnipeg shouldn't have any issues for the foreseeable future, but as Rangerboy said, the ownership has to field the most competitive team possible and not cut corners.

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Winnipeg is a better hockey market than Atlanta. Winnipeg will sell more tickets in their smaller building than Atlanta did. The Canadian dollar is much stronger than it was in 1996. The fans will buy the tickets just based on having their team back but then it will be up to ownership and management to put a winning product on the ice. Players won't want to play in Winnipeg because of the weather. Edmonton has the same problem.
This is what I say. The Peg will have a good showing for a few years, but if the ownership is sub-par and they run into problems with the team I bet you it won't be much better than Atlanta.

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Going to have to be some realignment. Maybe Nashville goes to the Southeastern conference and Winnipeg moves in with Detroit and Chicago.

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